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Gender inclusive language?

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barcher144 posted 3/23/2021 08:19 AM

Please forgive me if this is against the zero tolerance policy of no politics...

I am required to go through sexual harassment training at work. Part of the training is to use gender-neutral language...

The specific example was:

Do not say "pregnant women" but instead say "pregnant people"

Really? Am I crazy to thing this is going a little too far with gender neutral language?

[This message edited by barcher144 at 8:19 AM, March 23rd (Tuesday)]

DragnHeart posted 3/23/2021 08:35 AM

I agree but i think it goes against policy here to discuss it.

Marriagesucks posted 3/23/2021 08:49 AM

Part of the training is to use gender-neutral language...
Do not say "pregnant women" but instead say "pregnant people"
Ironically I had a doctors appointment last week... and their new policy was for you have to check in by phone.

It was a horrendous experience. I was asked my gender which is already on their records. Then I was asked what gender I go by. I was absolutely disgusted by this line of questioning for just a doctors visit. The world is turning into a shithole.

I'm now looking for another doctor...

Marriagesucks posted 3/23/2021 08:58 AM

Also... with the phone 'check in' I was asked if it would be ok if another party could view this information. WTF... so much for doctor patient privilege.

[This message edited by Marriagesucks at 9:02 AM, March 23rd (Tuesday)]

Loukas posted 3/23/2021 09:03 AM

Really? Am I crazy to thing this is going a little too far with gender neutral language?
Fortunately, you get to decide how much you want to perpetuate the craziness.

barcher144 posted 3/23/2021 09:23 AM

I suppose that I should have entitled this thread as "Old Man Yells at Clouds"

Bigger posted 3/23/2021 09:34 AM

Didnít you learn anything on that course?

Itís ďsenior being that idenities itself as of the male gender has vocal discussion with cloudĒ.

DragnHeart posted 3/23/2021 09:53 AM

I feel stupid. I dont understand the cloud reference???

Bigger posted 3/23/2021 09:59 AM


Itís a term used to describe someone feeble complaining about something they canít really have any input on. Like an old man shaking his fist and yelling at an oncoming cloud. I think it originated from the Simpsons.

sisoon posted 3/23/2021 10:02 AM

Well, I'm doing my best with non-gender-specific terminology, but ... that might get me thrown out of the class.

My question: who hired these consultants?

DragnHeart posted 3/23/2021 10:03 AM

Oh i see. Ok. No wonder i didnt get the reference. I've never watched the Simpson's.

JanaGreen posted 3/23/2021 10:08 AM

Eh. I mean, it's no skin off my nose to say pregnant people instead of pregnant women.

Does it feel a little weird? Sure.

Does it hurt me? No.

TX1995 posted 3/23/2021 10:12 AM

What Jana said.

DragnHeart posted 3/23/2021 10:20 AM

I dont give a rats ass how people want to be viewed however...that said.

I am a woman. In every way and damn proud of the woman i am so anyone who would dismiss MY gender in place of a neutral gender world is unacceptable to me.

I was asked if it would be ok if another party could view this information. WTF... so much for doctor patient privilege

My answer will always be no. No one has rights to amy of my medical information period.

zebra25 posted 3/23/2021 10:23 AM

I support and respect individuals rights to choose (apologize if that is the wrong terminology) their gender.

Honest question. Who or how is it helping to say pregnant people?

Darkness Falls posted 3/23/2021 10:29 AM

I think itís if the pregnant biological female identifies as a man.

grubs posted 3/23/2021 10:59 AM

I think itís if the pregnant biological female identifies as a man.

This^. You can have someone preferring male, or non gendered, pronouns and words yet being biologically female and therefore capapble of being pregnant. I've been to enough of those trainings to know. I also reflexively use they for a non-gendered 1st person singular but it still tweaks my grammar alert. I don't use any of the stranger ones unless they have it in their email sigs. I don't get onboard with putting my pronouns in the sigs though. I'm not going to lose sleep over whatever anyone decides to use.

sewardak posted 3/23/2021 11:23 AM

Am I crazy to thing this is going a little too far with gender neutral language?

yes.
"you kids get off my lawn!"

I have the gender signature on my email.
WE need to be open to change and this particular change is more inclusive and welcoming to others.
no brainer, IMO.

wildbananas posted 3/23/2021 11:25 AM

As the parent of a trans kid, and as one who has met/taken in many LGBT+ kids over the years, it makes no difference to me to say "people" instead of "women." And heck, women are people too, right?

To me, it's inclusion, nothing more. I don't feel it shrinks the existing group; I feel it expands it.

UnstuffedGiraffe posted 3/23/2021 11:36 AM

It confuses the hell out of me even as an 80ís kid that had a neighbor who was a man most of the time but, occasionally left the house as a woman.

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