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I dont see why its so wrong for the sexes to have separate places they can commune. Thats my opinion. That is all.

That’s why we keep the skirts out of the country club and the board room. The men can’t be expected to concentrate on getting important business done with a bunch of nattering hens clucking at each other and scurrying about.

That was satire just in case it wasn’t clear.

We will never see eye to eye on this.

We will never see eye to eye on this.

Probably true here and in other circumstances. But for the most part this dialog has been courteous and respectful. That has been largely missing in society, IMO because of the anonymous and easily accessed social media scourge.

The thread has been thought provoking for me and I thank you.

So she's being judged for her appearance. Too tall, not feminine enough...well if that isn't womanhood, I don't know what is.

I took that inference about size and voice from an online conversation with a transwoman who understood why a biologically female rape victim might be traumatized in her presence, acknowledging that her physical presence and deep voice might be a trigger.

She got the reasons why her presence as a volunteer in that situation might not be in the best interests of the rape victim, so it made me think it could be a thing to take into account.

HT's example of race isn't just a rough parallel. It's a close parallel. One of the primary justifications for enforced segregation in the American South was the belief that it protected white women from rape by black men. The perception of the threat, without any evidence, was considered a good enough reason to marginalize and oppress an entire race of people. So no, I don't think that a woman's unsubstantiated fear entitles her to keep an innocent person away from the front of the bus, or a lunch counter, or a publicly funded crisis center, or a restroom.

We had a problem in my local hospital just a few years ago where a white couple did not want a black doctor attending her in childbirth. She was in a difficult labor, and the hospital acquiesced. A total shit storm followed. The doctor, staff and union were all furious that a physician had been told to step aside purely because of the color of his skin. The person who made the call lost their job. Did whatever trauma this woman may or may not have suffered give her the right to reject a black doctor? Does her vulnerable state affect the answer? Or was it just racism, pure and simple? What's the difference between dark skin and a deep voice or a five o'clock shadow? In both cases, the person was born that way.