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barcher144 (original poster member #54935) posted at 2:19 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
Please forgive me if this is against the zero tolerance policy of no politics...
I am required to go through sexual harassment training at work. Part of the training is to use gender-neutral language...
The specific example was:
Do not say "pregnant women" but instead say "pregnant people"
Really? Am I crazy to thing this is going a little too far with gender neutral language?
[This message edited by barcher144 at 8:19 AM, March 23rd (Tuesday)]
Me: Crap, I'm 50 years old. D-Day: August 30, 2016. Two years of false reconciliation. Divorce final: Feb 1, 2021. Re-married: December 3, 2022.
DragnHeart ( member #32122) posted at 2:35 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
I agree but i think it goes against policy here to discuss it.
Me: BS 46 WH: 37 (BrokenHeart911)Four little dragons. Met 2006. Married 2008. Dday of LTPA with co worker October 19th 2010. Knew about EA with ow1 before that. Now up to PA #5. Serial fucking Cheater.
Marriagesucks ( member #46828) posted at 2:49 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
Part of the training is to use gender-neutral language...
Do not say "pregnant women" but instead say "pregnant people"
Ironically I had a doctors appointment last week... and their new policy was for you have to check in by phone.
It was a horrendous experience. I was asked my gender which is already on their records. Then I was asked what gender I go by. I was absolutely disgusted by this line of questioning for just a doctors visit. The world is turning into a shithole.
I'm now looking for another doctor...
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Marriagesucks ( member #46828) posted at 2:58 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
Also... with the phone 'check in' I was asked if it would be ok if another party could view this information. WTF... so much for doctor patient privilege.
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The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Loukas ( member #47354) posted at 3:03 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
Really? Am I crazy to thing this is going a little too far with gender neutral language?
Fortunately, you get to decide how much you want to perpetuate the craziness.
barcher144 (original poster member #54935) posted at 3:23 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
I suppose that I should have entitled this thread as "Old Man Yells at Clouds"
Me: Crap, I'm 50 years old. D-Day: August 30, 2016. Two years of false reconciliation. Divorce final: Feb 1, 2021. Re-married: December 3, 2022.
Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 3:34 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
Didn’t you learn anything on that course?
It’s “senior being that idenities itself as of the male gender has vocal discussion with cloud”.
"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus
DragnHeart ( member #32122) posted at 3:53 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
I feel stupid. I dont understand the cloud reference???
Me: BS 46 WH: 37 (BrokenHeart911)Four little dragons. Met 2006. Married 2008. Dday of LTPA with co worker October 19th 2010. Knew about EA with ow1 before that. Now up to PA #5. Serial fucking Cheater.
Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 3:59 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
It’s a term used to describe someone feeble complaining about something they can’t really have any input on. Like an old man shaking his fist and yelling at an oncoming cloud. I think it originated from the Simpsons.
"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus
sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 4:02 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
Well, I'm doing my best with non-gender-specific terminology, but ... that might get me thrown out of the class.
My question: who hired these consultants?
fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex apDDay - 12/22/2010Recover'd and R'edYou don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.
DragnHeart ( member #32122) posted at 4:03 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
Oh i see. Ok. No wonder i didnt get the reference. I've never watched the Simpson's. 
Me: BS 46 WH: 37 (BrokenHeart911)Four little dragons. Met 2006. Married 2008. Dday of LTPA with co worker October 19th 2010. Knew about EA with ow1 before that. Now up to PA #5. Serial fucking Cheater.
JanaGreen ( member #29341) posted at 4:08 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
Eh. I mean, it's no skin off my nose to say pregnant people instead of pregnant women.
Does it feel a little weird? Sure.
Does it hurt me? No.
TX1995 ( member #58175) posted at 4:12 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
I'm the BS. WH had an EA/PA with a cOW. DDay was 4/17. Working on R. Married 15 years and together 20 at DDay.
DDay #2 and #3 6/19. Grew a conscience and admitted a full blown physical affair.
Current and forever status is reconciling. I don't
DragnHeart ( member #32122) posted at 4:20 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
I dont give a rats ass how people want to be viewed however...that said.
I am a woman. In every way and damn proud of the woman i am so anyone who would dismiss MY gender in place of a neutral gender world is unacceptable to me.
I was asked if it would be ok if another party could view this information. WTF... so much for doctor patient privilege
My answer will always be no. No one has rights to amy of my medical information period.
Me: BS 46 WH: 37 (BrokenHeart911)Four little dragons. Met 2006. Married 2008. Dday of LTPA with co worker October 19th 2010. Knew about EA with ow1 before that. Now up to PA #5. Serial fucking Cheater.
zebra25 ( member #29431) posted at 4:23 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
I support and respect individuals rights to choose (apologize if that is the wrong terminology) their gender.
Honest question. Who or how is it helping to say pregnant people?
"Don't let anyone who hasn't been in your shoes tell you how to tie your laces."
D-day April 2010
Darkness Falls ( member #27879) posted at 4:29 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
I think it’s if the pregnant biological female identifies as a man.
Married -> I cheated -> We divorced -> We remarried -> Had two kids -> Now we’re miserable again
Staying together for the kids
D-day 2010
grubs ( member #77165) posted at 4:59 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
I think it’s if the pregnant biological female identifies as a man.
This^. You can have someone preferring male, or non gendered, pronouns and words yet being biologically female and therefore capapble of being pregnant. I've been to enough of those trainings to know. I also reflexively use they for a non-gendered 1st person singular but it still tweaks my grammar alert. I don't use any of the stranger ones unless they have it in their email sigs. I don't get onboard with putting my pronouns in the sigs though. I'm not going to lose sleep over whatever anyone decides to use.
sewardak ( member #50617) posted at 5:23 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
Am I crazy to thing this is going a little too far with gender neutral language?
yes.
"you kids get off my lawn!" 
I have the gender signature on my email.
WE need to be open to change and this particular change is more inclusive and welcoming to others.
no brainer, IMO.
wildbananas ( member #10552) posted at 5:25 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
As the parent of a trans kid, and as one who has met/taken in many LGBT+ kids over the years, it makes no difference to me to say "people" instead of "women." And heck, women are people too, right?
To me, it's inclusion, nothing more. I don't feel it shrinks the existing group; I feel it expands it.
Travel light, live light, spread the light, be the light. ~ Yogi Bhajan
UnstuffedGiraffe ( member #74937) posted at 5:36 PM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021
It confuses the hell out of me even as an 80’s kid that had a neighbor who was a man most of the time but, occasionally left the house as a woman.
Me BW - Married 20 years
Him - 2 Affairs 9 years apart
DDay October-December 2019 & July 2020
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