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Being compliant with mandates doesn't mean the numbers will decrease when faced with a more contagious variant.

Being compliant with mandates doesn't mean the numbers will decrease when faced with a more contagious variant.

I totally agree. Hopefully we can find other ways to help decrease the viral load to keep us out of the hospital.

@W2BHA, you noted:

I posted about the monoclonal antibody infusions everywhere...even on here. It was well received everywhere else...EXCEPT here.

That is your perception so I want to honor it. Mine is different. It isn't dismissed. Monoclonal antibody treatment is a TREATMENT and not preventative. So we're talking about two different things. Nobody is saying monoclonal treatment isn't viable nor that we shouldn't have more of it. But it is used once someone has COVID, not to prevent it. We need more yes, but, if we can keep people from needing it then we could get a bit ahead of this bastard called COVID.

In terms of this:

I don't mean that statement to be ugly...but if someone can prove that statement to be false I would really like to know.

Both WOES and I responded with some compelling information that disproves the statement that there is no impact after recovering from COVID. It isn't true and it hurts those that are suffering when something like that is said, refuted, and then not received. A personal account from WOES states, among other issues,

Your statement hits really close to home with me. I had Covid last January. I still do not have my smell all the way back, or my taste. I have neuropathy in my right foot and now have to use an inhaler when I exercise. I have gone through CT scans, nasal scopes, and pulmonology tests. I am just now feeling "normal" again.

I have worked with multiple people in rehab that have suffered from Covid.

It would be helpful to acknowledge that in light of these comments, your statement was not accurate. That's all.

ISurvivedSoFar...respectfully...I didn't say that ALL people who survive this virus have no health risk afterward. This was my quote:

a virus that nearly everyone SURVIVES with NO health risk afterward.

The VAST majority of people DO survive this virus with no health risk afterward. Some don't even know they ever had it.

I get what you are saying though. It is the same thing with me about being hesitant to take the vaccine. There are posts on this thread where people don't understand why I am hesitant to take the vaccine. They cite how the VAST majority of people have no adverse reactions after taking the vaccines. They have had no issues with the vaccine...they have seen others who have no issues with the vaccines...so it shouldn't be an issue. The thing though is that it IS an issue for ME because I am seeing what it can do to otherwise healthy people.

From the various posts I have seen...people write about what they know about this virus. I have been very hurt by some of the seemingly callous posts people have written concerning my issue. I don't want anyone to feel like that...and I am deeply sorry if what I wrote has caused pain to others.

My mom has a friend who in early 2020 was a rabid anti-vaxxer. She was constantly posting all over social media about how the vaccine was ineffective, covid was being 'overexaggerated by the other side', she'd take her chances getting the 'flu' rather than take a vaccine that 'she didn't know what was in it', that there were plenty of 'other effective treatments' for it that 'they' were suppressing the info on, posting links to articles 'proving' that the vaccine was SO dangerous.... She also wasn't going to 'be forced to wear a mask'... told people to stop being sheep... blah blah blah. For months this was her social media life.

And wouldn't you know it, she caught covid. Fortunately, her case was just like a really bad flu, and she recovered fully with NO further issues.

Unfortunately, her husband wasn't so lucky. When HE came down with covid, he wound up heading to the ER. He got steadily worse and was eventually put into a medically induced coma and on life support. His organs were starting to deteriorate and the doctors told his wife that she needed to prepare for the end. He had his last rites done. At the time, he was on palliative care only because the doctors didn't think anything else could be done for him except to manage pain.

By a pure fuckin miracle, as she was facetiming waiting for him to take his last breaths, his eyes opened. Somehow he didn't die and no one quite understands how he didn't. He had to learn to walk again, he had to learn to speak again, he will eventually need a kidney transplant because what he went through killed one of his kidneys and severely compromised the other one. He is still in PT close to 7 months after 'recovering'. Bear in mind this was an otherwise healthy active guy - not fat, not a smoker, not immuno-compromised, etc.

Her social media posts these days are way different. She strongly encourages vaccination (and both her and her husband have now been fully vaxxed with no adverse effects), she encourages wearing a mask, and most of all she encourages people to take covid VERY seriously. She also is very vocal about how much she wishes she had listened to the science and the CDC recs and not the fringe anti-vax groups and just gotten the damn stick when it first came out because anything that could have spared them what they went through was worth the risks involved.

W2BHA - I pray that you're right. I pray that monoclonal antibody treatments and mouthwashes nd sunshine and alllll those other things work. I pray that if you do end up getting covid it is just a bad flu that you (and all your exposed loved ones) recover from fully with no long term effects. I want that all to be the case more than anything. Because witnessing what my mom's friend went through is not something I would wish on anyone.

She also is very vocal about how much she wishes she had listened to the science and the CDC recs and not the fringe anti-vax groups and just gotten the damn stick when it first came out because anything that could have spared them what they went through was worth the risks involved.

I have some on the other side say that after just a middling bout with covid.

I pray that you're right

It's not about right or wrong for me. I am not an anti-vaxxer...I WISH I could get the vaccine and not have any adverse reactions like my family members have had. My doctor can't guarantee me that.

There may be HOPE for me and my family with that corbevax vaccine. There is NO hope for any of us in my state to get the monoclonal antibody infusion that works because they have been stopped. I am in a spot I do NOT want to be in. The only GOOD I see so far in this is that the deaths aren't that high with this variant. With me being obese...even that isn't really good for ME.

I am trying the best I know how to NOT get Covid...and I was thinking this is something that MIGHT help others as well. I THOUGHT it could be something positive that we ALL could rally around...but after yesterday I don't feel that way anymore. I never meant to cause hurt feelings...but this is what is happening...so I just don't feel like trying on here anymore.

I sincerely hope we can ALL be well. We've lost enough members to this virus I'm afraid .

The VAST majority of people DO survive this virus with no health risk afterward.

I searched via DuckDuckGo on 'long covid percentage' with no quotes.

Per Penn State, reported in the 10/13/21 Science Daily,

More than half of the 236 million people who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 worldwide since December 2019 will experience post-COVID symptoms -- more commonly known as 'long COVID' -- up to six months after recovering, according to researchers. The research team said that governments, health care organizations and public health professionals should prepare for the large number of COVID-19 survivors who will need care for a variety of psychological and physical symptoms.

"The burden of poor health in COVID-19 survivors is overwhelming," said co-lead investigator Dr. Paddy Ssentongo, assistant professor at the Penn State Center for Neural Engineering.

From Time Magazine last June: Almost 25% of COVID-19 Patients Develop Long-Lasting Symptoms, According to a New Report.

Medical News Today, 10/5/21:

Individuals with long COVID exhibit lingering symptoms, such as fatigue and brain fog, that persist beyond the typical recovery period of 3–4 weeks after the symptom onset.

A recent study assessed the incidence of long COVID symptoms using data extracted from de-identified electronic health records.

The study found that more than one in three individuals experienced long COVID symptoms 3–6 months after receiving a COVID-19 diagnosis.

Long haulers or long COVID has been added to the conditions that is covered by the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). If severe enough, you could qualify for Social Security Disability.

Also, Evusheld has recently been given an emergency use authorization & is for people who aren't able to tolerate the vaccines and given pre-exposure. (Sorry, I didn't go back through to see if this was already stated.)

Thanks leafields. Yep monoclonal antibody treatment is also under emergency use. Good to hear there is something else that may help.

Well. I have COVID. Thought I just had a cold until I tested today. I've been super careful, but someone came into my daughter's work with it and she caught it and brought it home to us. And dammit, Meatloaf just died of it.

Well. I have COVID.

Well fuck, Dee.... I'm sorry My sister just tested positive for it today too and we've all been religious about masking and distancing. She's pretty sure my niece or nephew brought it home from school tho - she said she said she's been getting emails daily about staff members coming down with it. Thankfully I haven't seen her in 10 days, but to be safe, I have few free tests so will be testing myself for the next several weeks.

I'm off to get my booster this afternoon.

Meatloaf just died of it.

Might be too soon but I know you appreciate my sarcastic dark humor.... Is this the thing he wouldn't do for love? Did he finally do it?

RIP Meatloaf!

Ugh. So sorry to hear it, Dee.

I can't decide if I've evaded it so far or got it really, really early. I caught something in late February 2020, when US cases were in the single digits, that knocked me flat for a week with no sense of taste or smell. I had been working with the public at an internationally popular tourist destination, so it's not impossible. However, no one else in my family caught it, so when I started reading about the groups in Washington and NJ all coming down with it with a few hours of contact, I thought that what I had wasn't contagious enough. Now I'm back to thinking it's possible. For months afterward, I had several of those long COVID symptoms.

Sorry, Dee. I wish you minor symptoms and quick recovery.

I'm sorry Dee. Thinking of you and wishing you a safe, speedy, and complete recovery.

On a lighter note, I've a buddy who claims that unvaccinated males will be in high demand at sperm banks. He has visions of wealth owing to his anticipated frequency at the milking stations.

On a lighter note, I've a buddy who claims that unvaccinated males will be in high demand at sperm banks.

What I've read is that vaccination has no effect on male fertility, but catching COVID could. These are all early studies, and I don't know if they've been replicated, but it would be more productive to get the vaccine if donating sperm or trying to impregnate a partner.

I hope you have an easy recovery, Dee.

On a lighter note, I've a buddy who claims that unvaccinated males will be in high demand at sperm banks.

What I've read is that vaccination has no effect on male fertility, but catching COVID could. These are all early studies, and I don't know if they've been replicated, but it would be more productive to get the vaccine if donating sperm or trying to impregnate a partner.

Keep in mind that I started with "On a lighter note." Frankly, if my buddy believes what he said (and I don't think he does; I think?), than he's being exceptionally silly.

Thanks, everyone. So far it's a bad cold and I'm tired, but not the end of the world aside from being for really real quarantined for a while, lol.