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If you sense anger and frustration from me on this subject, it's partly because my own freedom to live and be healthy is threatened by those who don't take it seriously enough. People who think we should all just go out and get it for herd immunity without getting vaccinated are playing with the long-term health of those we sacrifice unprotected to the virus. We don't know enough about this virus and what it does to the body yet. The only sane response is to try and avoid it if possible. And yet I just heard that someone I know who has COVID currently sent her child who just developed a nasty headache to school today. That's real. That happened. That is happening. It's happening because the virus is being downplayed as "fear-mongering" or "no big deal for healthy people". So off she goes to likely infect others who will go home and infect more people and you can't find a COVID test in my area anywhere. You can't get an appointment soon for the sheer volume of people getting tested right now. Someone who will not or cannot get vaccinated may contract this virus because of that one person not taking it seriously and keeping her child home. Hell, I can change that to "will" contract this virus. 39.03% of people in my county are vaccinated. I have a cousin who went to the hospital because he couldn't breathe, got put on steroids and some other meds, and hit the grocery store on the way home in person because he wanted to be sure he had food while he was feeling badly. Despite having other family nearby and Instacart as an option, he felt that it was okay for people to get the virus because herd immunity. As if it's just normal to have to go to the hospital when you're sick. I don't know about the rest of you, but a sickness that sends me to the ER is not a minor thing. That's pretty damned sick.

I don't know how you talk anyone into taking it seriously given how many people I know who have had it, been pretty darned sick, and still cling to "it's no big deal". 6 months later unable to walk outside to her car without getting out of breath still posting on FaceBook about how fear is the real enemy with COVID. It's like a cult at this point. Even personal experience doesn't seem to shake certain beliefs. Those I know who died, well, they aren't expressing their opinions anymore so I don't know what they thought at the end.

Finally, when you refer to "long Covid" in quotes, know that you are doing the same thing you are complaining about. Pot. Kettle.

I was distinguishing "long Covid" from Covid...because several people call it different names. A few posts down from yours said "long term Covid". I wasn't doing it sarcastically. Take it the way you want though. I've been called a lot worse .

With all due respect, I want to be sure we never brush over the suffering of those who have lost loved ones to COVID.

Of course not. But it looks like NO ONE seems to worry about the suicide rate of young people. Or any NUMBER of other issues that is NOT being talked about because all anyone wants to talk about is Covid. Covid is REAL. Covid KILLS. Covid can cause long term adverse reactions. ALL of these statements I AGREE with.

TODAY in my state we now have over a million people who have tested positive for Covid. That doesn't include those who were asymptomatic and didn't even know they were positive for Covid. Over 15,000 have died.

Other percentages are that unvaccinated people for the week of 1/6-1/12 account for 68% of positive cases...72% of hospitalizations...and 57% if deaths. WOW. HUGE difference from when Omicron started being dominant.

But it looks like NO ONE seems to worry about the suicide rate of young people. Or any NUMBER of other issues that is NOT being talked about because all anyone wants to talk about is Covid.

This thread is about covid though, not about the suicide rates of young people or other issues, so why would we talk about those other things on this thread?

I think adhering to our standards is important here. Respectfully, saying this...

YES...Covid KILLS...but there are a lot more things that people DIE of in this world BESIDES a virus that nearly everyone SURVIVES with NO health risk afterward.

Is like saying that "...everyone wants to talk about infidelity trauma but there are a lot more things that people are traumatized about and nobody wants to talk about it." This is a site about infidelity and while we sometimes tap into other traumas tangentially, we discuss trauma at length on this site related to the trauma infidelity causes. That does NOT diminish trauma from other sources. It simply focuses on infidelity primarily.

Similarly, this is a post about COVID. Deaths from other viruses, diseases and the like are no less significant just because we are concentrating on COVID in this discussion. But the opposite isn't true. When we have a topic that is particularly incendiary and is upsetting to people, it is disrespectful to dismiss it as less important and impactful than other medical issues particularly when some folks have horrific impact from it. Their pain, fear, worry and long-term impact is important to them.

This statement unfortunately reinforces that dismissiveness.

Of course not. But it looks like NO ONE seems to worry about the suicide rate of young people. Or any NUMBER of other issues that is NOT being talked about because all anyone wants to talk about is Covid.

Who is to say nobody is worried about these things? It seems very unfair to make this statement to a bunch of folks who may be very worried about it but have aligned with the topic of this particular discussion. Let's respect all opinions, and remain steadfast to the topic of this discussion.

[This message edited by ISurvivedSoFar at 10:23 PM, Wednesday, January 19th]

YES...Covid KILLS...but there are a lot more things that people DIE of in this world BESIDES a virus that nearly everyone SURVIVES with NO health risk afterward.

This statement is blatantly false and breaks my heart to read it.

Sorry I’m jumping in the middle here I can’t catch up all 17 pages but wanted to say I saw a story on NBC 5 DFW our local news about daily marijuana smokers being asymptomatic.

I’m not a pot smoker but I know a lot of them and not one I know of got sick with Covid.

I had posted earlier in this thread that our identical twins got Covid, one was hospitalized in ICU the other more severe and medically fragile twin was asymptomatic. He is on Epidiolex (Cannibidiol) for seizures, it’s a cannabis medicine approved for pediatric use in Texas.

There is definitely something to this.

This thread is about covid though, not about the suicide rates of young people or other issues, so why would we talk about those other things on this thread?

It seems very unfair to make this statement to a bunch of folks who may be very worried about it but have aligned with the topic of this particular discussion. Let's respect all opinions, and remain steadfast to the topic of this discussion.

I thought when the Great Barrington Declaration was being written about that this issue was being brought up? It was quoted in SEVERAL posts...so it seemed to be relevant to talk about how suicide rates are going UP because of the lockdowns that have been imposed on people. We don't need to go into that though.

This statement is blatantly false and breaks my heart to read it.

Please tell me why my statement that nearly everyone survives Covid with no health risk is blatantly false? I'm not being sarcastic...I sincerely would like to know what is false about it?

What do you suggest would be an appropriate tradeoff?

Why does there have to be a tradeoff? Firing staff for deaths was in no way a tradeoff, it’s just more accumulated covid casualties.

What I believe was appropriate was their argument. They worked through the worst COVID had to offer, the early days, when little was known, PPE was limited, risks were high, etc. Some talked about natural immunity, others about long term vaccine concerns and were waiting it out for now. Some simply stated that vaccines weren’t proving to prevent transmission.

It only took a month and a half from when they were put on leave without pay for omicron to destroy any argument about vaccination and transmission. Add to that, the staff were fired right as the winter months began! The policy couldn’t have been any more short sighted.

The counter arguments against their hesitation could be described at best as " what ifs". But once again, it only took a month and half for those what ifs to lose their footing.

So now they are martyrs for the unvaxxed groups. I just can’t see where a cost benefit analysis even comes close to a plus in the big picture.

Tanner, I know a bunch of stoners, watching them drop all around me along with everyone else. Anecdotal.

@W2BHA - just like you have people you know who have had bad reactions to the vaccine, I know people who have at this point long-term impact from COVID. I'll quote my comments again.

And to be clear, there are folks who have massive side effects from COVID - scarring in the lungs or permanent loss of smell/taste or pain and numbness in their body. These folks do suffer even today.

So saying this

YES...Covid KILLS...but there are a lot more things that people DIE of in this world BESIDES a virus that nearly everyone SURVIVES with NO health risk afterward.

...just isn't true and unfortunately hurts those that are suffering so much including those who have loved ones who died because of COVID.

[This message edited by ISurvivedSoFar at 11:31 PM, Wednesday, January 19th]

Please tell me why my statement that nearly everyone survives Covid with no health risk is blatantly false? I'm not being sarcastic...I sincerely would like to know what is false about it?

Nearly 6 million people I am sure would love to tell you why but they can’t.

Your statement hits really close to home with me. I had Covid last January. I still do not have my smell all the way back, or my taste. I have neuropathy in my right foot and now have to use an inhaler when I exercise. I have gone through CT scans, nasal scopes, and pulmonology tests. I am just now feeling "normal" again.

I have worked with multiple people in rehab that have suffered from Covid.

Most of all, that statement is upsetting to me as my MIL is ion hospice now due to complications from Covid.

It is upsetting that our experiences and those of the nearly 6million that have died are not significant enough to be considered in that statement. Saying "nearly all" dismisses a shit ton of pain.

ISurvivedSoFar...I mean absolutely NO disrespect to anyone. I read every heartbreaking post about Covid on here and I felt horrible that loved ones were lost to this virus. I don't mean that statement to be ugly...but if someone can prove that statement to be false I would really like to know.

For ME...only ONE person in my family who was fully vaccinated but not boosted got Covid. They recovered with NO issue at all. I had several family members and friends who were unvaccinated who got Covid. Almost ALL of them got the monoclonal antibody infusions or the subcutaneous injections. EVERY ONE of them that got the monoclonal antibody treatments recovered FULLY with NO health risk afterward. Not ONE of them died.

I posted about the monoclonal antibody infusions everywhere...even on here. It was well received everywhere else...EXCEPT here. I don't know what else to say about it. I don't want to HURT anyone. But Omicron is a different variant altogether...and everyone...vaccinated or unvaccinated are vulnerable. We NEED to come together and find ways to FIGHT this virus instead of fighting each other. I started this thread with a lot of HOPE that this could happen. If it isn't...I will stop posting about it on here.

I want to urge everyone to watch the cases though...they are NOT like they were before.

We NEED to come together and find ways to FIGHT this virus

Ya know we have some ways to FIGHT this virus!

Wear a mask.

Wash your hands.

Practice social distancing.

Get vaccinated if you're medically able to do so.

*taps and blows into mic* Am I broadcasting here?????

*weeping in science*

WalkinOnEggshelz...it truly saddens me to see this about your MIL . I didn't mean ANY disrespect in stating what I did.

ONE person who died from this virus is one TOO MANY. IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED!!! But it did...and MILLIONS got it...and MILLIONS fully recovered from it. That was all I was saying.

I apologize that my statement hurt you. That was NOT my intention AT ALL.

EllieKMAS...we've been doing ALL that. The numbers keep growing despite that.

daily marijuana smokers being asymptomatic.

I can imagine there will be a LINE for this study !!!

we've been doing ALL that. The numbers keep growing despite that.

Nope. Numbers are growing because there's a sizable contingent of the population that refuses to do all that.

I see it every time I go out. 2/3 of the folks at the grocery store are unmasked. Only about half my state's population is vaxxed. Strangers are walking way too close to me. My office is on its 5th wave of covid infections because 75% of people are refusing to get vaccines because of non-medical reasons and they keep on catching it and re-spreading it. One gal has had covid 3 times, is now on an o2 tank, and STILL refuses to get vaccinated. This same woman lost her sister to covid last year and still says 'other therapies work fine'.

Until people stop acting like 'it's just a bad flu' and 'there's no side effects' and start taking it way more seriously than it has been thus far, we're gonna see spikes like this for a long long time I fear.

Nope. Numbers are growing because there's a sizable contingent of the population that refuses to do all that.

This isn’t true Ellie, Canadians are very compliant with mandates. Our numbers are 3 to 4 times higher than ever before.

[This message edited by Loukas at 12:29 AM, Thursday, January 20th]

This isn’t true Ellie, Canadians are very compliant with mandates. Our numbers are 3 to 4 times higher than ever before.

While this is true, there hasnt been as much resistance to mandates, i believe the sudden increase in numbers is due to Omicron and how it is so much more contagious than previous variants.

Saying that vaccines, masks, distancing and hand washing have never been effective is very misleading when dealing with a variant that is 10 times more contagious.

Saying that vaccines, masks, distancing and hand washing have never been effective is very misleading when dealing with a variant that is 10 times more contagious.

I never said that.