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I'm not sure if this has been addressed here previously.

I've been working from home, like so many others, for well over a year. Therefore I spend a lot of time online - and being a long-time news junkie, I read everything.

It seems to me that there is a problem with 'after Covid' people going through sad and just crazy times. I've never seen so many reports of suicide, I don't think. The long-haulers or 'long covid' people are suffering tremendously with all kinds of health problems and mental health issues. This virus has so many unknowns attached to it.

It's almost like a Zombie invasion for the 'afters.' Did anyone read about the woman in Florida pulled from a sewer this week after wandering around down there for THREE WEEKS? She said she just kept walking and swimming down there, looking for a light and finally found one and spent days 'walking and swimming towards it.' They pulled her out yesterday after a woman heard weak cries coming from a street drainage area. She was nude. How in the world did she survive down there? Florida has huge snakes in their sewer system. And Gators. Human waste, trash --

They said she has some mental health issues (no chit!) and is a drug user in the past.

The after Covid suicides are so very sad. The founder of the Texas Road House, one of my favorite restaurants - killed himself the last few days. His family said he'd recovered from Covid but was constantly in pain and having health issues to the point he just couldn't stand it any longer. I think it's going to be YEARS for us to know the full damage Covid has cost us.

When you say after covid people you mean those who had the virus and "recovered" correct?

I can understand those who are still experiencing health issues being depressed and upset just due to how little is known about the long term affects and what the future holds for them. Add to that the anti mask anti vax and people who think this is all one big conspiracy and you have them feeling dismissed, not believed and (for the life of me i can't figure out the one word i want to use dammit).

That woman story is just crazy. How did she survive what was she eating....wow.

Dragn, people who have had Covid are being called "long haulers" or "after Covids." So many are having bad health issues including heart, kidneys, hernias and many other illnesses. I guess after weeks and weeks, some figure they just are never going to get better and life isn't worth living. Like the Texas Road House guy. No quality of life left. I know several people who are going through horrible health issues after Covid.

I don't even want to THINK about that woman and what she ate down in the sewers. Three weeks. My gawd. I watched the video of them pulling her up by ropes and she looked ghastly. She was very pale looking. And nude as a jay-bird.

I had heard thr term long haulers used but not "after covid people".

I'm just happily staying in my own little bubble world and not listening to news.

Its very scary not knowing the long term affects. Will children who had it grow up to have severe issues? So many questions. Just wish the damn vaccines would be more available for those of us who want it.

Add to that the anti mask anti vax and people who think this is all one big conspiracy and you have them feeling dismissed, not believed and

devalued?

I'm super lucky in that "only" one of my relatives is a longhauler (he's in his 70s - tested positive in October, discharged in late Feb and is still suffering - was in EXCELLENT physical health before he got Covid). However, his twin brother died of a mysterious lung ailment last February and we now believe that he probably had Covid. Same thing for one of my sister's in-laws, who was hospitalized for a suicide attempt, then died in the hospital of "pneumonia" on 3/10/20 (this guy was also in tip top physical condition)

I think the aftermath will be with us for a long time.... assuming there will be an "after", given all the reports of variants.

[This message edited by gmc94 at 12:54 PM, March 25th, 2021 (Thursday)]

A young man I know had COVID at the beginning of the pandemic, he is a long hauler. His heart is damaged, he now has sleep apnea and many other symptoms. He was in good health and slim. He is now pretty non functional.

Here is one example I know of, first-hand. I have a friend, early 50's - formerly athletic and very healthy. He traveled through three airports last January 2020 before we were really 'aware; - Denver, Seattle and Portland. A week after he got home, he got very ill.

Went to ER several times and they were puzzled by his illness. Different symptoms on ER visits. Fever, chills, aches, breathing issues ... then stomach issues, etc. He finally got a little better before he got worse a few weeks later. Now he's having GERD to the point he can't eat hardly anything; his esophagus has narrowed and he has a hernia so large it will require surgery when he's stronger. Food lodges and won't stay down. He wakes up with blood on his pillow. He's tired, exhausted and sleeps a lot.

He's a professional and has exhausted all his sick leave and almost all of his short-term disability as he's been sick so many months. His employer isn't showing much sympathy as of late. He's been trying to work from home but he says his concentration is shattered and broken.

Some of these people are being treated like they are Hypochondriac and that's so bad.

Because the doctors now think he was an early Covid survivor, he's being treated as a long-hauler even though no enzymes show up to prove he had Covid a year ago.

devalued

Yes!

And

Insignificant, worthless, disposable. All work too.

We all share the frustration at those who are in denial. We are having to stay home because of their stupidity and callous attitude. THEIR actions can kill us and they don't care. We haven't learned much, I don't think. If you read about the AIDS epidemic years ago, I think we were smarter back then. It became a FELONY to knowingly infect others and they were arresting people. None of us want that, we just want people to LISTEN, quite denying and be smart. Even the Spanish flu of 1912 was handled better. If you look at old photos from that time, everyone was wearing masks.

gmc94, your post brought to mind that song ..."There's got to be a Morning After." Now I have to go find that song and see what Movie it was from. Work can wait a few minutes.

Of course - Poseidon Adventure

A former coworker of mine is a long hauler. He’s even been profiled on NBC and NPR. He was a marathoner that pushed a differently-abled man in the races— a seriously fit athlete. He now is out of breath in minutes, has brain fog so bad he can’t work, and is exhausted walking up a flight of stairs. He’s seen 60 doctors, been tested for everything, and spent a week at the Mayo Clinic— no change. His medical bills are astronomical.

We have no idea how many people will have these long term issues or how severe they will be.

Super scary.

BarelyBreathing, I am SO glad there seems to be a new awareness about long-haulers. They desperately need help and to be taken seriously!

There is a bit of good news on the horizon. Apparently, for some long haulers, they improve once they get the vaccine. They’re just starting to look into it but about 39% say they improved...unfortunately, that’s not a great statistic, but it’s something. Also, the medical profession is really starting to take a serious look at long haulers. Fingers crossed they can help some of them. A friend of mine is a long hauler and she is still suffering almost a year later.

That is good news. My fried just got his second vaccine. I sure hope he improves.

Yes, I was also going to mention a recent segment I saw about the long haulers and some of them improving after the vaccine.

**as my alarm is set for the 4th day in a row to be in line for a possible leftover shot. I want to be there by 4am tmrrw. CA is finally going to 50+ on 4/1.

I’m not sure if I qualify as a “long-hauler”, however I am having lasting effects from having Covid.

Most concerning is I have pressure on my chest at all times. I can not tell if it is pulmonary or cardiac. I often feel short of breath, but my oxygen saturation level is excellent. My heart rate on the other hand is much higher than usual. Just walking will get it up into the 90/100’s. I can actually feel the difference and I have “fluttering”. My sense of smell still has not returned (it’s been 2 months). My energy level is fine, but when I try to exercise I sound like a squeak toy. I also feel like my memory is impaired. If I don’t write something down, it’s like it never happened.

I function well at work. I have a very physical job. I can still do everything I was doing pre-Covid, but I just don’t “feel right”.

I have an appointment scheduled with my PCP. I have asked for a full physical with lab work so I can rule out anything serious.

Covid has made me more humble in regards to my own mortality. I’ve always been healthy. I exercise. I’m overweight but strong. I don’t take any medication. I’m worried that will be changing.

I feel like Fuck Covid will be a popular saying for some time.

More than a year since COVID for me. Sense of taste & smell is waaay off.

I had to change laundry detergent and soap and shampoo b/c of it. Cooking and eating are challenging b/c many foods taste bad.

For instance - real butter - tastes and smells awful. Just awful. Bananas are another one. They smell horrible.

I count myself lucky b/c those are my symptoms. Not as bad as what others are suffering through. I also had a very mild case of COVID too.

I work in healthcare and have been in the middle of the warzone.So many of my coworkers had covid and are still suffering from weird symptoms.One used to be heavy into fitness and now they get tired and short of breath after 4 hours of work.Some have died.In the beginning I was curious as to what this little b*""' of a virus looked like and how it worked.I cracked open my laptop and looked under the hood of it.It has a hook.Goodness and tears open a healthy cell creeping in there and replicating itself like maggots on a dead animal.Gross,gross,gross!It can infect multiple different organs affecting all systems of the body.It doesn't discriminate that's for sure.I became so paranoid after that.Wore my fair share of ppe and wash my hands until they hurt.I have held sick patients in my arms attempting to give them water and administering medications all the while they shook violently and sweat.I have been lucky so far and haven't caught it.Covered from head to toe in ppe I tell you.Covid has a look.Some died and I became familiar with it.Went shopping one day after work and saw a woman pass out and fall face down on the ground while waiting in line.I pulled out my hand sanitizer and she was checked over after coming to.Refused the stores offer to call an ambulance.I am sure she recently had covid and was still suffering from side effects.She didn't tell anyone that's what it was but I knew.She looked scared and didn't want to linger for too long.I didn't let the cat out of the bag either.I get it.That look though.The face of covid will forever be imprinted on my brain .Oh yeah One more thing.The workplace is a ruthless thing.Despite everything these workers have been through my workplace is now hunting people down with write ups and firing them.A nurse who's husband is a corporate lawyer looked over one of her write ups.She said he looked it over and said it didn't make sense.Must be a money thing.Still makes me want to .Well any way that's my rant for the day

[This message edited by Bonetired at 7:06 AM, April 2nd (Friday)]

It's been two weeks since I was released from the hospital from having pneumonia. I just cannot seem to get better. Still having low-grade fever and chills. My bones hurt. Lots of pain in my feet, especially the bottom of my feet. One day I will feel better and I try to get up, get things done, do normal stuff. The next day I'm down again. I just want to stay covered up and sleep.

It's been four weeks yesterday since my first Pfizer vaccine. I couldn't make the second vaccine appointment as I was in the hospital. I was told by health department to report yesterday to the community college where I received first vaccine - to get second vaccine. As bad as I felt, I went there. Totally deserted, no one there, no vaccines being given. I fear since it's been four weeks that I may be in danger of waiting almost too long for second vaccine, through no fault of my own.

I'm being told by doc that I'm having a slow recovery from the pneumonia. They have scheduled a Pet Scan for this Tuesday.

I just got a call from the wife of a long-time friend. He passed away this morning from Covid after after knee replacement two months ago. He got an infection in his heart from Covid and just couldn't recover. We grew up together and have been friends since we were 7 years old. My heart is broken. I HATE COVID.