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 ibonnie (original poster member #62673) posted at 5:43 AM on Monday, March 15th, 2021

I hate my brother's girlfriend, and I don't know what to do with these feelings. They've been dating 5ish years, and living together going on 4 years, and in that time, I've barely gotten to know her, because every effort has been rebuffed or ignored. My brother's behavior has definitely changed since they've been together (and I'm not the only person who has noticed or commented on this), and on the very rare occasions that we do see him (alone, because she almost never comes to any family or friend event she's been invited to), he makes remarks or complains about how she's lazy, bad with money, expects him to pay for everything, does zero housework or cooking, neglects to do any tasks he asks her to help with or do for him when he's away for work (which is often).

Specific things he's complained about include:

-paying hundreds of dollars for a pet because she wanted a specific color. He wanted to adopt one from a shelter.

-having all their furniture match the color of said pet. He brought one item of furniture into their apartment and had to fight for it because she didn't like that it didn't match the rest of her color scheme.

-insisting on a leather couch -- my brother is a sweaty guy and said that he didn't want to stick to a leather couch when the weather gets warm, and 2. the pet would ruin it (which it has).

-she's spent more on hair extensions in a month than her half of their shared rent and bills cost.

-and then would ask him to cover things like their groceries for the month because she was short on cash.

-but then would go shopping for bags and bags of new clothes.

-he's the only one that cooks, and she complained she's tired of his recipes so he needs to learn some new ones.

-gave him an STD after they had been together for years. Her doctor said that it could have been lying dormant, but... I am on this site for a reason and therefore my mind immediately goes to infidelity.

-he complains that she never leaves their apartment. (Yes, we're in a pandemic still, but he complained about this before 2020.)

-he bought a countertop dishwasher because he was tired of doing all the cooking AND always doing all the dishes.

-her family doesn't know he exists/they're dating because they wouldn't approve for religious reasons.

-he asked my mom to pet sit while he was on a business trip because there was some concern she wouldn't be able to handle their pet on her own. (It didn't end up happening though, but still...)

-one time he asked her to do his laundry for him (or at the very least, drop it off at the laundromat and pay for it to be done) because he had back-to-back business trips and would basically be home for less than a day and needed clean clothes to pack for his second trip, and whoops! She forgot.

He (and she) say they don't want kids (which is fine, I don't care either way), BUT he did say to me once that he wouldn't want to have a kid with her, because he already takes care of everything, so that would be like having two kids.

As for things that he hasn't complained about, but I've noticed first hand:

-my parents and WH helped them move in together. When they showed up at her apartment many years ago, she had not packed a single item, and it took all day to get her packed up and moved since nothing had been done beforehand. She didn't buy them dinner or drinks (idk about where you're from, but where we're from, if friends help you move, you pay for pizza + beer that night).

-she made a derogatory comment about our ethnic background at my LO's 1st birthday party because we had some white and red wine for guests to drink. We also had seltzer, juice, coffee and tea...

-my brother invited me to her birthday party years ago ON the afternoon of her party. Keep in mind, I have two kids, and WH already had plans that night, so I had to decline.

-I've never been invited to another birthday party for her.

-but I have always invited her to my birthday parties. The last one was in 2019 before... everything. I made a Facebook invite for pizza and beer on our roof. Super lowkey, about 10 friends, including my brother. She RSVPed yes, and my brother showed up solo that night. When I (casually) asked where she was, he said she was at dinner with friends.

-my dad has cancer. She didn't reach out to my parents once to offer any sort of help or condolences or well wishes. Nothing. Nada. Radio silence. (My brother was largely the same. No offers to help my mom out with anything. Never offered to meet them at the hospital to help him get home after surgery or keep my mom company. )

-we had my brother and his girlfriend over for a small big # birthday dinner during the pandemic. My brother kept saying he was so tired, just wanted to go home and go to bed. Girlfriend kept insisting they HAD to go to her friend's birthday party that night after they left. Turns out it was a surprise party FOR my brother. She didn't invite me, but she did invite one of my brother and I's best friend's (which is how I found out -- said friend asked me about the party, and I was like "What party?").

-she's never attended a family event with my brother, big or small. No holidays, no milestone occasions, not even a barbecue. They've lived together for years and almost no one, except for our immediate family has met her.

I could... go on. With more examples, more people that don't like her, etc.

I don't know what to do. I feel so sad and angry about all of this. I miss my brother dearly. On the rare occasions I get to see him, I've mentioned that I miss him, and I'd love to hang out more, and he says he misses me, too. But on the occasions that she comes over with him, he's totally different -- they largely sit off to the side by themselves, she barely makes small talk with anyone, and he basically waits on her, bringing her food or drinks so she doesn't have to move from her seat.

Obviously the pandemic has made everything even more difficult, but before covid hit the US, I would reach out once every couple of months and invite him over for dinner or would see if he wanted to go do something, but he would usually be too busy.

After I found out about the surprise party, I directly messaged him and asking if I had done something wrong or offended them somehow that I wouldn't even get invited to my own brother's milestone birthday party, and he assured me no, it was just an oversight on his girlfriend's part.

But... I don't know what to do anymore. I miss my brother. I swear, I haven't mentioned any of these feelings I have about his girlfriend to him, and I've always done my best to keep reaching out to him and to invite them both to hang out and do things, and send her (thoughtful!) birthday presents but... I'm starting to hit a point where I just want to stop making any effort. I guess I worry that if I do 1. I really won't ever see him, and 2. I don't want to make him feel alienated or isolated if/when they ever do break up.

Any advice or how to proceed? How to stop loathing her? Or how to stop caring?

Edited to add: one of his best friends for the past 25+ years is also one of my closest friends. They don't like his girlfriend either, think he's totally different around her, and think it's weird that they've 1. never been invited to his apartment with her in the years they've been together AND 2. that he's never been to their new apartment in the 3 years they've lived there. For the record, the live about 20-30 minutes apart from each other via car.

[This message edited by ibonnie at 12:05 AM, March 15th (Monday)]

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Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 10:45 AM on Monday, March 15th, 2021

When you mentioned them switching out the furniture to match pet-color…. CRAZY!!!!

The stop-crazy switch in the relationship is missing!

There are other issues. Issues like her family not knowing for five years. There is also a long list of incompatibilities and varying values… Frankly I don’t see this as a relationship that will last.

From personal experience…

My stepson married his high-school GF despite a long, long list of incompatibilities. Mindful of the old mantra of daughters-in-law seldom meeting the required standards we – his parents – tried our best to be open-minded, but when his best friends talked to us about their concerns it just confirmed what we feared. The incompatibilities were many the same as you mention.

I tried gently to talk about the issues - like since she’s already spent time and money to get her certification as a bookkeeper and a beautician then maybe she should try working as either, before taking even more time off to learn massage therapy… (with him working long hours to pay for her studying full-time) - but he didn’t want to listen. His friends warned him, but he didn’t listen.

After a nearly 10-year relationship and three kids she demanded a divorce. Well… she wanted him to leave her with full custody, the house, both cars and a credit card. I finally managed to talk sense to him, and the divorce was done in a fair manner. Although not according to her…

Despite the divorce he still didn’t want to believe anything about her. It took over three years before he finally told me that he was starting to realize what we and his friends had been warning him about. His wake-up moment was when he realized that despite having the kids full-time every second week and yet paying some child-support he was working shorter hours and still had more money than when married and more time with his kids.

The former DIL? She finished her massage-therapy degree and has been studying nursing for the past year(s). To my knowledge she has never worked as a bookkeeper, beautician nor masseur nor has she any experience in nursing.

Bottom line: No matter how clear the crazy is then your bro won’t listen.

What you can do is take him aside and voice your concerns. Tell him that you wish they were more in your lives but that you won’t go chasing after it. If he can’t make it happen then you will be there when he needs you. And then wait because this relationship will eventually end.

"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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zebra25 ( member #29431) posted at 3:32 PM on Monday, March 15th, 2021

Choosing a pet because of it's color says a lot. I have no words for wanting it to match a decorating color scheme.

You are an angel for putting so much effort and energy into this person. That being said, I'm not sure what else you can do other than continue with your relationship with your brother and hope he comes to his senses.

Sometimes telling someone you don't like or approve of their choice in partners backfires. If he really loves her or thinks he does he may see you as putting him in the middle and making him choose.

Good luck with this difficult situation.

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Cooley2here ( member #62939) posted at 3:37 PM on Monday, March 15th, 2021

Just assume that your brother is getting something out of this relationship. He has a chance every single day to leave and he doesn’t. It hurts you because you love him and wish you had more time with him. I don’t know enough about your daily life and certainly nothing about his but if possible try to meet him for lunch every other week or so. Just the two of you. Don’t bring her up. Just be a sister

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 4:38 PM on Monday, March 15th, 2021

The next time he complains, give him feedback on his complaints? Something like, 'I hear that complaint. Are you aware you complain about her a lot?'

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deena04 ( member #41741) posted at 6:57 PM on Monday, March 15th, 2021

The next time he complains, maybe ask him where he sees this going. Maybe he’s looking for an out. I would question how the STD was dormant, yet he travels a lot. That raises big questions. The fact she refuses to do any work around the house should be a huge red flag as well.

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StillLivin ( member #40229) posted at 4:47 AM on Tuesday, March 16th, 2021

Your brother is a grown man. Anything he fails to do for family is 100% on him. Yes, she is a bitch. But he allows her to be this way with his family.

Stop. Just stop trying so hard. And, yes, it means you will lose some time and closeness, but any relationship takes two, not one. It is no different than doing the pick me dance in the same scenario which isn't allowed to be named in this forum. Your brother does not want to have a great relationship with you or the rest of his family and that onus is on him alone.

I would have one, and only one, conversation with him where you lay it on the table your hurt and resentment that your relationship with him (and to some degree with her) is not where it should be and that you are exhausted from having to be the one to solely carry the relationship. Then, I would put the relationship in his hands. If he drops the ball, so be it. If he starts to carry his share of the weight of having a geniune and loving relationship, great. This is honestly how all relationships should be, reciprocally loving and shared.

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The1stWife ( Guide #58832) posted at 10:30 AM on Tuesday, March 16th, 2021

Sad to say you just have to accept his choices. 🥲

The would continue to try to keep in contact but without the GF. You never know what the future holds.

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Gottagetthrough ( member #27325) posted at 9:59 PM on Thursday, March 18th, 2021

Geeze. I WISH i had a SIL like you. I tried for years to get them to like me so I know how you feel. Eventually, they pissed me off one too many times so my sister said, “Hey! We want you to come visit us. Instead of visiting your inlaws out of habit, fly out here & spend time with people who actually like you”

We did. It was so nice. Havent seen the inlaws going on 3 years now. Took my sisters advice to spend tine on those who like me. Spent thanksgiving and Christmas with my family for the past 2 years (usually we travel to one side for one holiday and the other side the next holiday. No more. Holidays are only with my side now)

The STD thing —.

Why isn’t the girlfriend asking if your brother passed it on to her? Just from your story, it seems like she has accepted that she gave it to him? Why couldn’t it have been lying dormant and him? (Red flag to me)

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secondtime ( member #58162) posted at 2:07 AM on Tuesday, March 23rd, 2021

Ultimately, your brother is the one making the choice to stay in the relationship. So, I'd assume he's getting something out of it.

I don't know how good of siblings you are or aren't. If your relationship can withstand honesty, the next time your brother complains, why not just call him out. "Wow! It sounds like Sally has no positive qualities at all. What do you get out of the relationship?" or maybe a boundary "He bro, I'm uncomfortable hearing you complain about your SO all the time. It sounds like a therapist might be better suited to help you and your SO. How did your last work trip go? How about (insert local sports team)? Did you see who the new host is for Jeopardy?"

Is it possible your brother is depressed? Low self-esteem? Other issues?

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