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For Those Who Found Out Years Later


Oldwounds ( member #54486) posted at 2:38 PM on Tuesday, November 30th, 2021

It is a different experience — and exploring what makes our experience unique — is a good thing.

Because we have to understand what the damage is, before we can fully heal and recover. At least for me. I had to know why it was infidelity hits so DAMN hard, and why it took me so long to heal and why certain elements of betrayal hurt more than others.

And in reviewing advantages or disadvantages by finding out years later, we do discover some of those differences for our experience.

One difference is I had to really try and figure out why my wife stayed with me all those years of carrying the secret. My thought was that EVERY A was an exit A — that the ONLY reason people step out of a marriage is because they’re done being married. I didn’t know there are other malfunctions a person could have.

So yeah, I think your thoughts about those differences are important.

[This message edited by Oldwounds at 4:18 PM, Tuesday, November 30th]

Married 34+ years, together 40+ years
Two awesome adult sons.
Dday 6/16 4-year LTA Survived
Restoration takes time.
"Circumstances don't make the man, they only reveal him to himself." ― Epictetus

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Wiseoldfool ( member #78413) posted at 9:46 PM on Tuesday, November 30th, 2021

…do those of you who found out years later feel as if you were on the exact same playing field as other betrayeds after discovery?

No. Not at all, especially in my particular case.

"All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way."

Tolstoy, Anna Karenina

So, here’s how my family was "unhappy" in its own way:

First, my discovery was a confession from my WW in response to a direct question. I asked, five years after it ended, whether it had happened and she said yes. It seems many of the betrayeds here discovered the affair "the hard way" and, of course, contemporaneously to the affair. I think we frequently see the standard lie/deny/gaslight/blameshift play out in real time before our eyes, and that has got to be horrifically damaging to the betrayed. Bad enough that they’ve been betrayed, now they are being blamed and gaslighted, too, in real time. It’s a double whammy. The lizard brain is getting lit up every which way. Too few waywards get caught in real time and then commence to do the right thing right away. At least the separation in time between the last act of the affair and the beginning of my wife’s struggle to tell the whole truth allowed me to process an affair by then long over while I got to the bottom of the truth.

Second, in between the end of her affair and the confession, my wife reinvented herself as a spouse. The four years before the confession were probably the best of our marriage. We problem solved together, communicated, had increasingly great sex and more frequently, no resentment, no fights that I remember. So, when the confession came out, I was not looking at a person who had recently treated me like shit, I was looking at a person I was deeply in love with and enjoying my life with. That is a huge distinction for me from many of the stories we see here. I wasn’t looking at "try to fix this shitty life with this shitty person who treats me like shit today" vs. "separate or divorce." I was looking at "can I work through something that happened years ago in light of the life I am currently living?" I didn’t have to hope I could one day have a marriage I enjoyed, I had it, but for learning about that one time years ago that my wife slipped and fell on another man’s dick for a few years.

Third, I think it was possibly more damaging to me to learn, years later, that I was not crazy when I felt crazy when I suspected the affair, when I could not understand my wife’s venom and contempt, when things did not make sense but now, suddenly, the pieces all started falling into place, but in memory, not in real time. I think the "aha" moment happening during the affair is no doubt traumatic, but it helps one make sense of their present. When you have your suspicions confirmed while it is happening, the recent past and present make more sense. However, I was suddenly compelled to sift through my past and try to reconstruct it with the benefit of this new information that permeated everything. It was completely disorienting. I had moments where a memory ran into another memory and - at long last - clicked into place. It was so weird, because I am a very, very grounded, rational thinker who was forced to see that I had missed the obvious. It was, and remains, very hard to do. Likewise, the "evidence" lost to time leaves some questions unanswerable, and that sucks.

Fourth, the affair being long over, and in my case the AP being long gone, is very different than the common story of a meddlesome AP still pursuing the wayward spouse and/or the wayward spouse vacillating between affair partner and marriage. There was no "fog" in my case. There was no doubt about whether the affair was over, or might resume. I now know that one doesn’t really ever know for sure what one would do when a given set of circumstances presents, but I do think if I’d discovered the affair while it was ongoing, or shortly thereafter, I’d have divorced her. I think that would be certain if there had been "affair fog" or false reconciliation perpetrated.

Being betrayed sucks no matter how you slice it, or when. It’s hard to be grateful for anything about my wife’s affair, but for me, the delay between the end of it and the discovery of it has had some advantages.

[This message edited by Wiseoldfool at 9:47 PM, Tuesday, November 30th]

Every secret you keep with your affair partner sustains the affair. Every lie you tell, every misunderstanding you permit, every deflection you pose, every omission you allow sustains the affair.

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gulty ( new member #79575) posted at 9:58 PM on Thursday, December 23rd, 2021

Wiseoldfool, my experience is similar to yours.

In the past 6 years my W has been a very good spouse. But I recently learnt of a ONS (perhaps more than once?) that occurred 15 years ago. I am yet to fully absorb it. I keep hearing that 2-5 years is common for healing from infidelity. I wonder in cases like mine (and so many others who posted on this thread) if the healing can be easier.

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somanyyears ( member #26970) posted at 3:16 PM on Sunday, January 2nd, 2022 an active member for ...??? 12 years, I've long passed that 2-5 year mark on the healing curve. The death of the OM was unknown by me or my wife until I had the vivid dream, where he's telling me that I 'don't know' the whole truth. Started asking some questions... then learned it wasn't 2 years , try over 18 years..??? When I searched the net to find him and blow his fucking head off, I had his obituary pop up!!! He had died 3 years earlier, to the very day..April 18.. 2006 ...and it's 2009 when I find out..

The longer story is in my profile.. mad


trust no other human- love only your pets. Reconciled I think!Me 74 Her 70 Married 49 yrs. 18 yr LTA with bff/lawyer. Little fucker died at 57.Brain tumor!

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gulty ( new member #79575) posted at 3:09 AM on Thursday, January 27th, 2022

So I was filled with anger yesterday against the AP. I did some detective work, found out the OBS' email and shot her an email informing the ONS/PA that occurred in 2006. She responded expressing her shock.

Meanwhile, AP seems to have been confronted by the OBS and he tried to get in touch with WW - "WTF is happening?". He is blocked, so the email went into her spam folder - I have access to her account. I don't believe W saw it, but I did.

I just had my best day since DDay (10-Dec-2021).

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Wiseoldfool ( member #78413) posted at 3:30 AM on Thursday, January 27th, 2022


If there had been an OBS to tell, I would. Sadly, there’s only an innocent girlfriend who came along years later.

Every secret you keep with your affair partner sustains the affair. Every lie you tell, every misunderstanding you permit, every deflection you pose, every omission you allow sustains the affair.

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gulty ( new member #79575) posted at 12:30 AM on Saturday, January 29th, 2022

Even though the DDay for my wife's PA is quite recent, I had suspected it for many many years. But every time the thought came to my mind, I rationalized telling myself that she wouldn't have crossed the line.

My therapist has an interesting take on this: "you knew it long time ago and started grieving. the first stage of grief is denial. you have been in this stage all these years and only now you are ready to go to the next stage".

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icangetpastthis ( new member #74602) posted at 1:13 PM on Thursday, June 2nd, 2022

Kind of the same, kind of different. I was definitely betrayed by the love of my life and realized the extent of that betrayal decades later. It has devastated me. It has devastated him. What? Yes. Years ago he thought that he could just casually snort coke with the guys at work. No big deal. He knows that I wouldn't be happy about that, so he didn't tell me. I never saw him do it, and it still surprises me that he ever did do the coke. When I met him he didn't even want me to smoke cigarettes and bothered me about it until I quit. That new exciting coke thing for him takes him on a journey of at least 5 years of a double life. Why did this happen to us? I keep asking myself. He quit the coke all those years ago, our lives became so much better. I forgot about how awful he was, we never even talked about it. Until we finally did. When I finally became brave enough to ask the questions. He hasn't been the same since and after carrying his secrets all these years is struggling to look at what he was and what he did all those years ago. He is now seeing an IC and I'm wondering if I will see an IC too. Sometimes I wonder, who has it worst, him or me? IDK. What a freak show, to learn after decades that the life I lived wasn't - reality. And, that had I known what was really going on all those years ago - that I wouldn't even be here with him right now.

M = 43 yrsDDay = March 2020
Me/BS = 62WH = 64
Working on reconciliation, one day at a time.

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UnstuffedGiraffe ( member #74937) posted at 12:17 AM on Saturday, June 4th, 2022

My therapist has an interesting take on this: "you knew it long time ago and started grieving. the first stage of grief is denial. you have been in this stage all these years and only now you are ready to go to the next stage".

I very much relate to this.

Me BW - Married 20 years
Him - 2 Affairs 9 years apart
DDay October-December 2019 & July 2020

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Marlita ( member #72286) posted at 4:34 AM on Thursday, June 9th, 2022

It’ll be 4 years, on the 28th of this month that I found out!
I still can’t get past it!

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1girlsmom ( member #63541) posted at 1:07 PM on Monday, June 27th, 2022

Marlita, I am the same.
It has kept me in a fog of sadness.

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