Some random responses NOT in priority order (I'm flu-addled, but as usual, your questions hook me.
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1) My oxygen mask: On d-day (15 years, one week, one day ago), I knew I was hurting, but I also knew my W was really fucked up, I had no doubt that she had a lot more work than I did to heal. I suspected she'd want/need my help, so I put my oxygen mask on first.
2) Self-protection: I wanted to R, but I didn't know if it was possible. Even it it was possible, I didn't know if we'd both stay the course. I knew I could control what I did, if I focused on doing so. so that's what I did.
That was temporary. As my W did her work, I thought I'd need less protection, and I slowly made myself vulnerable to W again. We went back to a balance.
3) Philosophically, I think Ayn Rand is as blind as a person can get (besides being a narcissistic and unremorseful WS), but I do agree with her that altruism is not what it's cracked up to be.
I tend to see a lot of 'self' in 'selfless'. I've done a lot to help my W, especially after d-day - but I think I did so by free choice. I know many BSes believe BSes have to eat excrement. I don't see that at all - I was and am free to walk away.
I've benefited from not walking away, and I believe I'd have benefitted from leaving. Either way I win, even while either way I lose. For me, the true self-sacrifice would have been to leave.
4) I think a lot of people see selflessness in codependence. IMO, co-d is a decision to hide oneself and manipulate others, so I don't see selflessness at all in co-d. Now, my W is co-d. Ten years ago, I got a phone call that my mom, 1000 miles away, had fallen without her emergency call button at hand, broke her shoulder in 3 places, and might be on her death bed. My W immediately worked with me to go see my mom. After Mom made it through the crisis, my W worked very hard and effectively to help my mom get into assisted living.
That was all genuine. There's simply a difference between 'I'm gonna help get this done' and 'I hope he doesn't get angry.' A social worker who hated case management, my W saw a need for case management skills and put hers to work.
We sacrificed, b. But we chose to. TBH, I could not have held my head up in society if I had turned my back on my mom - IOW, selfish and selfish simultaneously.
I see the combo of self and selfless as very human.
Helping ow would be selfless, IMO, but I'll dodge any opportunity to do that that I can. Any BH who helped their WS's ap ... I'd argue against it. I'd think it's crazy.
5) We say 'R takes 2' as well as 'focus on yourself first.' We also say:
BS heals BS.
WS heals WS.
Together they heal the M, if they both want to.
IOW, if R is on the table, the partners need to work together to define what their M will be and they'll put their vision into practice.
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IMO, no BS can know what the WS is going to do or how they're going to do it at first. SI has a lot of data saying the typical WS starts by lying, and lies are antithetical to good resolutions. The advice to focus on oneself is absolutely correct in the beginning, IMO. The best first step for any BS is to protect oneself, again IMO.
As always, it's important to adjust one's actions and thoughts as new facts come in.
And recovery always takes longer than anybody wants it to take. Just sayin'....
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On umpteenth thought, I think you've identified a hole in some very important messages. I'm not sure how to deal with it.
The 'BS first' part of the message is given directly to BSes who aren't putting themselves first and to JFOs who may not have thought of it. In the heat of the moment, it's easy to forget that people in R read the same messages without reading at the same time the qualification that 'BS first' can be modified if and when R gets going.
A good literal reader - especially a good literal reader who thinks for themself - might get confused.
I'll say this, though: I do my best to respond to a poster, and that necessitates responding to the poster and their context.
Sometimes I draft a post that addresses a similar question in different contexts. I find that to be really impossible. There are so many damned potential nuances that I get lost trying to think of all possible contexts - because if I'm going to address one additional context, I should address every context I can think of. But I'm not that good a writer. Nowhere good enough.
So I have to accept that SIers will contradict each other. I'll accept that we'll appear to be internally contradictory. I'm happy when the contradictions are pointed out.
[This message edited by SI Staff at 9:35 PM, Tuesday, December 30th]