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 Jeaniegirl (original poster member #6370) posted at 1:25 AM on Sunday, January 8th, 2023

Just hoping you are okay and your H is okay. Hoping you had a happy holiday too.

"Because I deserve better"

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little turtle ( member #15584) posted at 2:16 PM on Monday, January 9th, 2023

Me too. I miss hearing the updates. Hope all is well. ♥

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SadieMae ( member #42986) posted at 4:42 PM on Monday, January 9th, 2023

I hope all is well.

Me: BW D-day 3/9/2014
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PricklePatch ( member #34041) posted at 6:14 AM on Tuesday, January 10th, 2023

I have been thinking of her!

BS Fwh

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 Jeaniegirl (original poster member #6370) posted at 4:46 PM on Tuesday, January 10th, 2023

I sure hope she is okay!

"Because I deserve better"

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Dorothy123 ( member #53116) posted at 4:11 PM on Wednesday, January 11th, 2023

She last logged in

12/8/2022 07:29am

I hope she is OK

"I’ll get you my pretty, and your little dog too!" Wicked Witch of the West.

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WhatsRight ( member #35417) posted at 3:01 PM on Thursday, January 12th, 2023

Oh my God! Y’all just brought tears to my eyes. I’m so sorry to have worried anyone.

I don’t really know where to start. I really tend to overdo Christmas. Decorations, family traditions. This, of course, was the second Christmas without my son who is incarcerated. He is due to go to court this month, but he doesn’t seem to be certain why. Is this for a plea? Or is it for sentencing? I’m sort of in the dark. His public defender is a bit hard for him to get in touch with. I constantly deal with guilt over not getting him a private attorney. But I have been told that federal public defenders are very sharp, and that there is not as much room for federal lawyers to finagle different results. That the guidelines are stricter. I’m not sure I understand that.

Last time we spoke specifics about his sentencing, he said that she (the public defender) is telling him he’s looking at somewhere in the vicinity of 42 months. I don’t know if they will count the time he has already served while waiting for this whole process. He said that he is taking 4 courses now that will each give him three months off of his sentence potentially. Also, he says he gets 56 (I think that’s correct) days per year off for good behavior. Also, there is a drug program, if he is lucky enough to get into, that is 18 months long, and I think he said he could possibly be released if he completes that problem successfully. But I’m not sure about any of this.

I found out yesterday that my oldest son will be going to the county jail for 60 days in March, for a second DUI he received months and months ago.

My middle son, who seems to have the most psychological issues relating to his birth and addiction, came to me the other day with a scare regarding talking with some girl on a dating app. He says that she and he talked back and forth for about a day and a half off and on. That she started making comments about having met her soulmate, referring to my son, after the first couple of hours of communicating with her. ??? At some point she sent a picture of herself in her underwear. It freaked my son out a little bit, and he responded, "nice". Then he said he changed the subject to what she was doing, like, watching TV or something. Anyway, he has now gotten a phone call from someone that says he is her father. That says she is 17 years old. And that he’s going to press charges against my son. He is terrified. I have questioned him repeatedly and he says that he absolutely did not get sexual with her. That he did not ask for the picture. The father is saying to my son over the phone that he will not press charges if my son sent him $3400. ??? Evidently, there was some sort of fight between the daughter and her mother and they put holes in the drywall of their home and knocked the TV over. WTF? And that is my son’s problem why??? He tells me that also another man has called and identified himself as a police officer, and he said that if he does not want to be arrested, that he should make arrangements to pay the father. I can’t imagine a police officer doing that.

My husband says that he has been seeing reports of this type of scam on the local news, and that my son shouldn’t worry so much. Upon questioning him more closely, it turns out that my son has done some inappropriate talking and picture sharing, if you know what I mean, with other people in the last month or so. But he says he is certain that these people are over 18. (BTW, this girl in question checked the box "18 to 21" age range on her dating app.)

My husband and I said that he should call the police because that’s what the news said the police is asking people to do, who are faced with this type of scam. But my son is afraid that if he goes to the police, and they check it out by looking at his phone, they will see some of the other communications he has had other women. And even though he has not broken the law, he’s concerned that he’ll have a record of this behavior. I really don’t know how to help him with this. I’ve told him that the next time the father or the police officer call, he should ask for their full name … The father has only provided his first name. And I have told him that he should ask the police officer to spell his name, to give the name of the police department he works with, and to give him his badge number. But, again, my son is afraid that if he involves the police, there will be consequences for him being on other dating apps and some of the things he has said and pictures he has sent when talking with others. What kind of person thinks that that you’re going to meet a person of quality on these type of dating apps where there is trashy talk and the exchange of explicit pictures?

I believe that it is a STRONG if not a 100% chance that there is no girl, or that it is a set up of some kind. What the hell does damage to a home from a fight between a mother and daughter have to do with "inappropriate communication" with the girl… Even if that did happen. And what real police officer would encourage my son to submit to extortion? And wouldn’t this be a moot point if, as my son said, the girl had identified herself as over 18? (BTW, supposedly, this girl has recently, in the last week or two, turned 18.) I believe there is some person sitting in their living room downloading pictures and sending them to my son, and speaking as if they are a young girl. And then calling and pretending to be his father. And then calling and pretending to be the police officer. Or some variation of that scenario. But, of course, I’m not very savvy about these situations, and I could be dead wrong.

Is it presumptuous of me to say that I really thought I did a better job of raising my children than this? My sister and my best friend who I have shared this with have tried to make me feel better. But what are the chances that three out of three of my kids could possibly be facing incarceration. In March and April, I will have two sons in jail. I know that many parents have sons it in jail, but I am a literally gut wrenched about all of this. It is so horrifying to me at to be unreal. I was raised very strictly, and in my house we did not even use the word "jail". When I was little, and one of my parents’ friends had to go to jail for a short period of time, they spelled the word "J-A-I-L" at the dinner table when they were talking about it. Not saying that is the best way to handle it, but it is how I was raised. So this is all horribly inconceivable to me. Not that I think I am "above it", just that I never in my wildest dreams imagined it would happen. To my kids.

As far as my husband’s health is concerned, he has been doing pretty well. You might remember he has spent quite a lot of time in the hospital over the last six months with issues regarding bad urinary tract infections that during four of his seven hospitalizations turned into sepsis, and highly erratic blood pressure that went dangerously high/low for some time. Ultimately, they have switched him from intermittent cathing, to having a Foley. That has kept his bladder from getting distended between cathing. which seems to have helped with the BP issues, (due to his disability) but which sets him up with a greater risk of UTI. Just yesterday we found out he does have klebciella again, but luckily, this time, it can be treated with oral meds rather than IV infused meds.

He seems to be leveling out a bit, with his health issues. But he rarely gets out of the bed, except for doctors appointments and, for example, Christmas dinner and giftgiving. For months I have constantly been in a state of "high alert" regarding his declining health. My niece, who is a hospice nurse/Director told me three months ago that she believed that he should consider hospice, and when I ask her if she thought he would qualify for hospice, she said that he most definitely would. Of course, this means that she believes that a doctor would Document that he presently has a health condition that probably would cost him his life within a six month period. But here we are three months or so after his last hospitalization, and he seems to be relatively "OK". Maybe there are things that I cannot see. Maybe she is referring to all of the sepsis, and the damage that could have potentially happened to his organs. I crave knowledge, and so much of this just seems to be hit or miss.

If you have made it this far, with what I’m sure would qualify as this sites longest post EVER, I might as well tell you the latest thing I am facing.

Many, many years ago when our sons were little, I decided to stop working, (I was teaching at a university), to be a stay home mom - H and I agreed. My husband was running a successful company, and our financial future was promising. We got the whole "estate planning/trust" worked up. It included life insurance policies for each of us. They were both (to me) substantial- his being twice as large as mine, due to him being the wage earner. He lost his business to a total scammer, who it turns out has a history of this. We sued, and won a settlement of a TON of money. But, of course, he is either broke, or successfully hid money, and our lawyer’s investigator cannot find ANYTHING. So we almost lost our home, and haven’t seen a penny of that money.

Two days ago I found out that my husband’s life insurance policy, which we have been letting pay for itself with built up cash value while we were dealing with trying to sell our house so as not to lose it completely, needs to start being paid again. It is a very HIGH monthly payment. We also have a "2nd to die" policy for our boys, when both of us are gone. And a smaller policy on me. So, obviously we are "insurance poor". I did the math yesterday, and based on what savings we have at this point, we will be able to pay for our life insurance and living expenses for a little over seven years. Then we will be out of money completely. I have talked to the insurance company, Because I am totally ignorant about these things. They told me that we could not reduce the amount of his policy. It must remain the same amount that it is, and therefore the same payment amount, or just be let go all together. We have spent way too much money to let that go, especially since there would be no way he could get another policy now with his health situation.

That is all pretty scary, right? At least it is to me. It is, "don’t sleep at night, constantly worry, stay in a constant state of fear" kind of scary to me. Because of my husband‘s poor health at this time. Because I worry that at some point my health is going to go and both of us could be needing help. Or what happens if I die first. And I think of my children and grandchildren, and what will become of them.

However, my FWH was able to give me more gut wrenching realities than even the worry of "insufficient funds". When I explained to him that the insurance payments needed to restart at this time, (we had been told by an insurance representative that we had one more year of cash value) he said, Well, we can’t afford that. We will just have to let it go." That sounds like it makes perfect sense. But to me, having been through what he put us through, and considering that chances are high that he will proceed me in death, this situation affects me more than him. (More than likely.)

I do not know why it surprises me. Seriously. After what all has "gone down" (no pun intended) between us. But it hit me like a ton of bricks. That he would say so lightly that we would just let that insurance policy go. The money that I would live on in the event that he dies before me. When I reminded him that there is no way I can live on the Social Security that I get alone, even with our home being paid for, he said he guesses that I would just have to get a reverse mortgage on our home. His lack of giving two shits about me not being able to afford to live has been shattering.

I know. It shouldn’t surprise me.

So, I’ve been up for two nights straight wondering what will become of me if he dies first. (If I die first, he will have my insurance policy, which is much less expensive. Hopefully he could have at least a few years to pay someone to move into the house and take care of him. His sister could possibly move into our home and take care of him and he could pay her. Or, as a last resort, due to his disability, the state will take care of him at a facility. Not ideal, but doable. And, sadly, because his health is quite poor, he is probably not looking at many, many more years.

OTOH, if he dies first, which seems more probable due to his health concerns at this point, without his insurance, I would be at a loss. And he knows this. And yet his response to our new situation with this resumption of paying his high insurance policy every month, is to say "Just let it go." I’m not exactly sure how long we’ve had it, but it has been at least 15 years. The money we have put into that policy is scary, and it will be greatly needed if he goes first. Not to mention that my grandmother who died at 86 is the youngest to die in my family. With my mother dying at 92, and her father at 104. So the odds are that I will have the potential to have many years left, with no sufficient income.

I just feel "spent". I’m afraid for my husband, and for myself. I am hurt that he doesn’t seem to give it a second thought that I could be destitute without that policy. The thought has actually gone through my mind that we just continue to pay it, get a reverse mortgage on our home if/when the other money runs out, and hope that one or the other of us dies before the money is gone. Who thinks like this? And now, because he seems so unconcerned about my welfare if he dies first, and so quick to let his life insurance go, I’m concerned that he will also let the "second to die" policy go so that my sons and grandchildren will have nothing when he dies.

I understand that this is more of a "first world problem". But it is truly keeping me up nights. I told him earlier tonight that I was not going to give it up at this point, that we would just have to start paying for it with our invested money, until all that was gone, then decide what to do. However, it occurs to me that it is HIS life insurance policy, and he can choose to discontinue it, or even change the beneficiary if he decides to do so.

So… Now aren’t you sorry that you wondered "out loud" how I was doing!

Aa always, thanks for listening.

And I have missed being here for the last couple of months so very much. Just seems hard to put it in writing… Seems to make the whole incarcerations, health issues, and potential future financial concerns so much BIGGER when you actually write them down.

I truly hope all of you had blessed holidays. I will try to get caught back up with what is going on with everyone.

❤️❤️❤️

"Noone can make you feel inferior without your concent." Eleanor Roosevelt

I will not be vanquished. Rose Kennedy

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The1stWife ( Guide #58832) posted at 3:11 PM on Thursday, January 12th, 2023

Your son should save all the conversations w/this girl. It is a scam. Because of the photo that was sent they may allege "child pornography" believe it or not. They may claim the girl is underaged blah blah blah. Your son can challenge that she is underage AND force them to prove it’s their daughter if it comes down to it.

It appears to be a scam. He should delete his profile off the app. Funny how fast the story unfolded with "the girl" and demand for $. They have done this before. They know what they are doing.

So sorry for your sons. They face such challenges.

Survived two affairs and brink of Divorce. Happily reconciled. 11 years out from Dday. Reconciliation takes two committed people to be successful.

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WhatsRight ( member #35417) posted at 3:18 PM on Thursday, January 12th, 2023

1stWife…

Yeah, he already closed out the app, But I think it might’ve been better if he didn’t. This way he cannot go back and prove that he wasn’t talking with her in a suggestive manner. He does have some back-and-forth texting they did off of the app. He has read and reread it many times and says there is nothing questionable or inappropriate from their texting either.

In my naïve hopefulness, I am praying that when he "calls them" on it… When he asks for their full name and where they live and what their police badge number is, etc., that it will just fall apart.

But, as you say, who knows.

"Noone can make you feel inferior without your concent." Eleanor Roosevelt

I will not be vanquished. Rose Kennedy

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zebra25 ( member #29431) posted at 3:59 PM on Thursday, January 12th, 2023

Glad you checked in.

I'm sorry you're having so many struggles. The dating app situation with your son definitely seems like a scam.

Maybe your H feels defeated concerning the life insurance and his inability to do anything about your overall financial situation? If he is depressed his comment makes sense. Just throwing that out there.

Hugs

"Don't let anyone who hasn't been in your shoes tell you how to tie your laces."

D-day April 2010

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MIgander ( member #71285) posted at 5:14 PM on Thursday, January 12th, 2023

Hi WR,

Can you get power of attorney over your FWH at this point? He's had so many health issues, it's not unreasonable to think that he could be incapacitated to make decisions for himself. At this point, in his depression (and no wonder if he's depressed!!), he may not be capable of making decisions that are logical and in the best interests of himself and the family.

Since you were a university professor in the past, could you get work as an adjunct at a local community college? I did some work as an adjunct teaching remedial math courses for the adult students at a small college. I only have a bachelor degree, and it's in engineering, but they accepted me nonetheless. It paid about $1200/class/term and the schedule was quite flexible. With online classes you may be able to tutor in your school district or take on substitute teaching.

It's sounding like you're overwhelmed right now. I know what that feels like, I've been flooding lately too. One step at a time.

-power of attorney for FWH
-tutoring/substituting/adjunct evening class instruction

Definitely things to look into.

Wishing you the best, I'm glad you're back. I'm sorry to hear about your sons' legal troubles. It definitely looks like a catfish operation on your one son. It's not an uncommon temptation and trap to fall into in our culture these days. Don't beat yourself up over it. Some people have to learn their lesson the hard way. I'm hoping he's learned and this will turn out to be a scam. I just got scammed from a person who did a good email impression of my pastor. Asking for gift cards for staff. It finally dawned on me it was a scam when they asked for $1400 worth of Amazon cards and for me to take pictures of them. I sent it off to the parish staff in case some of the other parishioners were being targeted. The email was even a Gmail account that was named after him!!!

WW/BW Dday July 2019. BH/WH- multiple EA's. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

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PricklePatch ( member #34041) posted at 5:33 PM on Thursday, January 12th, 2023

WR, so glad to hear from you. HugsPP!

BS Fwh

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WhatsRight ( member #35417) posted at 6:23 PM on Thursday, January 12th, 2023

Power of attorney is a great idea, but I already have one. Mine is not necessarily due to him being incapacitated mentally but for the convenience of him not feeling well enough to get out to sign a paper, for example. I’m pretty sure, though, that the power of attorney… At least this one… Does not take away his power to make changes.

I would totally LOVE to teach in the ad junct capacity. But my problem is that there is never a time that I can feel certain that I could commit myself to certain days and times. I never know when he’s going to need me and cannot wait for a couple of hours.

If something should happen to him, I guess I could definitely check that out. Especially if we have had to give up his life insurance policy.

I have even thought about checking out dog walking in my neighborhood. But there are days, due to my broken hip repair, that walking just around the house is really irritating to my hip.

I don’t know what will happen. I’m ashamed I don’t have more faith.

"Noone can make you feel inferior without your concent." Eleanor Roosevelt

I will not be vanquished. Rose Kennedy

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MIgander ( member #71285) posted at 6:40 PM on Thursday, January 12th, 2023

Don't be ashamed you don't have more faith!! If you weren't questioning your faith right now, I would wonder if YOU were mentally incapacitated. You've had the trials of Job lately. Glad you're back posting.

WW/BW Dday July 2019. BH/WH- multiple EA's. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

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ZenMumWalking ( member #25341) posted at 8:17 PM on Thursday, January 12th, 2023

((((WR))))

Thanks for this update honey. I'm so sorry that you are going through so much.

Don't doubt yourself over how you have raised your children. Even without the FAS issues, your children's brains would still be developing. Now add FAS on top of that and there are even more delays. Their cognitive ages are much less than their chronological ages, and they just aren't making good decisions. They need mental help more than incarceration (imho), I just hope that they can take advantage of any kind of programs or help that they can get while incarcerated.

About substituting / adjunct teaching: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss that option. See if you can get someone to sit with WH on an 'as needed' basis. They don't have to be as (over!) qualified as you are to take care of him / keep an eye on him.

I'm also very sorry that he seems to not give 2 shits about YOUR future. FUCK THAT!! Your self-esteem does not depend on him. You deserve to take care of yourself, to be taken care of. So stop talking to him about it and stop expecting him to change. Take charge of your life, I know you can do it.

I know you are not giving up on your faith, it's times like these where you question, explore then reinforce your faith. For now you're between questioning and exploring. You will get there in the end, regardless of the outcomes.

I'm sending out strength, mojo and positive vibes for you and DSs. Oh, and that dating app thing is a complete scam. It's good that he shared that with you. It opens an opportunity for discussion and for learning.

((((WR))))

Me (BS), Him (WH): late-50's
3 DS: 26, 25, 22
M: 30+ (19 1/2 at Dday)
Dday: Dec 2008
Wanted R, not gonna happen (in permanent S)
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 Jeaniegirl (original poster member #6370) posted at 3:50 AM on Friday, January 13th, 2023

Whatsright, so glad you checked in. I was worried about you.

On the bright side, I think that's all GOOD news about your incarcerated son. He's doing what needs to be done and I hope you tell him you are proud of his efforts. I know you do as you are that kind of Mom. Federal public defenders (or any public defender) are always busy but they (We) keep their clients in mind. I'm sure he's being looked after. Sometimes there isn't enough hours in the day to respond to questions about cases. Hang in there!

As for the online issue with your other son, that definitely sounds like a SCAM. Be aggressive with this and report immediately. It might not hurt to pay an attorney for a one-time visit just in case - but it definitely sounds like a scam.

This life insurance is a big deal as it seems you might definitely outlive your H and as you age, you will need to be financially secure. Is there any way to cash in the polices for cash value and invest the money? I don't know much about life insurance but it seems there should be other options available to you.

I hope you had a great Christmas with your grandbabies. And SO glad you checked in!

"Because I deserve better"

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WhatsRight ( member #35417) posted at 12:26 PM on Friday, January 13th, 2023

Jeanie girl…

One thing my son told me was that his public defender says she got his reports from the neuropsychologist that saw him every two years of his life between the ages of four and 16. I have read the reports of course, and she told my son that it was no proof that he was born addicted to crack cocaine. The report refers to it, but when I reread it I noticed that he didn’t indicate any proof about that, just that we had told him about it. And we were told by the adoption lady. I’m not sure there’s a way to prove that "after the fact".

From what he says, it seems that she feels it could help him in sentencing if that was proven about his being born addicted. He screamed nonstop the first few months of his life. I would put him in his car seat and set him on top of the dryer and that seem to help just the smallest amount. He was 18 months old before he slept through the night. Once when we were telling the adoption lady about this, she said, "Of course he was screaming for months… He was born addicted to crack cocaine."

Should I try to find that lady? She is not with the adoption my agency anymore. He is paying a price for his actions. And that is fair. But I really hate for him to not have the considerations that he deserves regarding being born addicted.

"Noone can make you feel inferior without your concent." Eleanor Roosevelt

I will not be vanquished. Rose Kennedy

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WhatsRight ( member #35417) posted at 1:11 PM on Friday, January 13th, 2023

In the spirit of not being such a complainer, let me tell you about my grandbabies. 😊

They are my motivation. And…they LOVE me!!! No accounting for taste!

My oldest son’s daughter is 4 1/2. I get to see her sometime 3-4 times a week. I keep clothes here for her, and part of our den is a toy shelf. She loves her Grandma (me 🤪), and recently she is getting much closer to her Grandpa. (It’s tough for her to have much interaction with him due to him being in bed 95% of the time.). But as she gets older, she runs into the room all the time to give him his water, or to talk to him. One day I was busy with something, and I realized I hadn’t seen her for a couple of minutes. I walked back into the bedroom, and she was sitting on the foot of the bed with a couple of dolls, and was having the coolest conversation with him. (And he was talking just as much with her! Imagine that!). I hid and watched for a while and it was just precious. For a while now, one of my deepest wishes is that my husband and I will live long enough for our grandbabies to remember us. (And that he won’t pass before our son is out of jail.) She has a good mom (despite her youth and a bit of immaturity) and I really love her. She and my son are not together as a couple, but they are working really hard on coparenting.

My youngest son’s son will be 3 in February. He is literally a clone of his dad. And he has a "step daughter" who is 10. She is very shy and doesn’t know what to think of her white grandmother, but I have been patient, and she is warming up to me. 😊 When my son calls from jail, he asks me to please try to get his son more often and give his mom a break. I want to, but never knowing when I need to immediately tend to my H makes it hard. They are only an hour away. I do send her my son’s 1/2 of the daycare fees, and I take them supper from time to time. I don’t do this for my son, but for the baby and his mom - another great mom. It’s not their fault he isn’t present right now. I feel that it is a blessing that my son is able to video chat with them from jail. This way, his kids…especially the baby…won’t forget his face or voice.

I always said that I never wanted to be a grandma. That sounds horrible now as I say it, but I was very serious. I struggled and worried myself sick with my sons, and I just didn’t feel that I had it in me to spend that kind of care and worry over grandchildren.

But I was dead wrong. They are my joy. But I don’t have to tell you guys! You know it EXACTLY what I mean.

😊❤️😊❤️😊

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"Noone can make you feel inferior without your concent." Eleanor Roosevelt

I will not be vanquished. Rose Kennedy

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 Jeaniegirl (original poster member #6370) posted at 3:30 PM on Friday, January 13th, 2023

Whatsright, sign a statement of exactly what the social worker told you about your son when he was born - and include dates and her name and send it to the public defender. Have the statement notarized. That's probably all you can do but it really might help. Since it's been quite a while, social services might not have a copy of the social worker's report that he was born addicted - but they SHOULD have record of that.

"Because I deserve better"

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WhatsRight ( member #35417) posted at 11:44 PM on Friday, January 13th, 2023

Will do…thx.

🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

"Noone can make you feel inferior without your concent." Eleanor Roosevelt

I will not be vanquished. Rose Kennedy

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