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ibonnie (original poster member #62673) posted at 12:13 AM on Friday, March 4th, 2022
I don't closely follow Ye or the Kardashians, but admit that I'll click on a gossipy news article on occasion. Lately I've been seeing people call out Ye's behaviour as being threatening/abusive towards Kim Kardashian and her (supposedly) new boyfriend, Pete Davidson.
I clicked on an article today calling out his new music video today, and was completely creeped out by the imagery and the lyrics
. It's animation? Or claymation? And looks like he's kidnapped/murdered a Pete Davidson lookalike. At one point he's holding a severed head and rapping about how they'll have the best divorce ever because they're going to go to court together.
I know we can never truly know what's going on between them, and the media distorts things, but this... really, really freaked me out. It's like Ye is sending his soon-to-be ex-wife VERY public threats, and he just doesn't give AF. Because he can? Because he feels like she can't leave him? Because he thinks she deserves to be afraid? I don't know, but the fact that he's so blatantly doing this makes it more horrifying.
I'm sure she can afford top notch security, but still... no woman (or person) should be threatened by an ex like this.
"I will survive, hey, hey!"
Jeaniegirl ( member #6370) posted at 3:59 AM on Friday, March 4th, 2022
I saw that. I think it hinges on a real death threat. But with these people, BAD publicity is STILL publicity. In addition, I don't know how anyone can consider someone with a BAD talking voice doing 'rap' as real music. But then that's just my opinion. I guess millions like it because it's made them super rich. As for Kim K, I think Pete looks young enough to be her son in the photos. Pete should RUN away as fast as he can. I think he has talent. But I guess he likes women who go 90% naked in public.
"Because I deserve better"
HalfTime2017 ( member #64366) posted at 5:54 PM on Friday, March 4th, 2022
I seem to recall Eminem talking about killing and slapping his Mom in his rap music back in the day. So its not new. Its rap music.
This also goes along the lines of other rappers saying and threatening each other in gangster rap and then, actually making it happen e.g. Biggie, Tupac, Shugnight...... the list goes on.
Ye is known for outlandish music, it garners attention and he even said so himself. I wouldn't spend a minute more on it. Ye is a billionaire, he has more to lose than Kim. He's just saying outlandish things to get attention. Just think about some of your most recent politicians brag about the ability to kill people and not get in trouble.
OwningItNow ( member #52288) posted at 6:12 PM on Friday, March 4th, 2022
I find the things Ye/Kanye has said and posted online to Kim, about Kim, and about her new boyfriend to be extremely triggery. I feel afraid for her, regardless of her security.
Anyone who has ever spent any time in the unhinged crosshairs of an ex you are trying to leave can relate. Domestic violence shelters are filled with people trying to get away from these kinds of people, the "Nobody leaves me, bitch!" types. How about Ye then writing, "She can't prove that I actually posted those things? I was hacked." Omg. A narcissist's favorite line: "You can't prove anything."
So, so triggery. Their need to control you supersedes all rational thought. They'll kill you to make sure you can't "win," and they'll deal with the consequences later.
Good luck, Kim. You're gonna need it. He will not forget.
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solus sto ( member #30989) posted at 9:04 PM on Friday, March 4th, 2022
The song is on an album named for his mother, who would be so appalled by his behavior.
I think it's necessary, though, to note that Kanye is very, very ill. Like, seriously, and noncompliant with treatment. (He feels it dulls his creativity; I'd argue that if creativity includes coming up with claymation death threats, perhaps that's not entirely bad.)
I worry for Kim. I really do. Because regardless of his motivation, he's dangerous. I think many of us can relate to having stayed too long with dangerous men---and having kids with them. Those kids need their mother--and they also need a healthier father. I hope someone in his sphere will help guide him toward taking responsibility for his mental health. He may never be "all better," but he CAN be better.
BS-me, 62; X-irrelevant; we’re D & NC. "So much for the past and present. The future is called 'perhaps,' which is the only possible thing to call the future. And the important thing is not to let that scare you." Tennessee Williams
The1stWife ( Guide #58832) posted at 9:30 PM on Friday, March 4th, 2022
She is legally divorced from him as of yesterday.
They still have property issues etc to finalize but she is no longer his wife.
He has said some really bizarre things over the years. I don’t know if he’s mentally ill or just looking for publicity but he appears a bit off his rocker with the last video.
He doesn’t understand respect for the mother if his children, that’s for sure.
Survived two affairs and brink of Divorce. Happily reconciled. 10 years out from Dday. Reconciliation takes two committed people to be successful.
number4 ( member #62204) posted at 9:57 PM on Friday, March 4th, 2022
I don’t know if he’s mentally ill
It is publicly known that he has a mental illness,I believe bipolar disorder.
What he is doing is stalking and abusive, and she needs to take out a restraining order against him. That being said, if he has any sort of visitation rights, that could be difficult. But if I were a judge, I certainly wouldn't be granting him any visitation rights at this point. It's just asking for trouble.
As someone else mentioned, because he has a known mental illness, I think these threats are on a different level than those of other rappers.
I don't follow Ye or Kim (nor the Kardashians), but yes, it came up in my news feed today, and they also talked about it on The View this morning. If I were Pete Davidson (who also doesn't have the record of being the most mentally stable - he had a suicide attempt a couple of years ago), I'd be running away as fast as my feet could carry me.
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ibonnie (original poster member #62673) posted at 10:27 PM on Friday, March 4th, 2022
As for Kim K, I think Pete looks young enough to be her son in the photos. Pete should RUN away as fast as he can. I think he has talent. But I guess he likes women who go 90% naked in public.
Regardless, I still think Ye's behavior is threatening and not okay.
I seem to recall Eminem talking about killing and slapping his Mom in his rap music back in the day. So its not new. Its rap music.
Eminem is a different (and seemingly reformed, as of late?) person entirely. Kim Kardashian filed for divorce a year ago, Ye has been "linked to" or dated multiple women since, and it wasn't until Kim supposedly started dating someone else that he started putting out threats online and with this recent, very scary music video.
Not to mention doing this like specifically telling his fans to verbally acost his STBXW's new boyfriend.
So... it was okay for him to date? But after a year of being separated, when his wife starts to move on, he responds by very publicly and repeatedly threatening the new BF? And publicly attempting to love bomb his wife with trucks of flowers being delivered to her house? Making repeated posts online that basically say they're not going to get divorced now because he's not gonna let that happen?
OwningItNow and solus sto, you get what I'm saying 100%. It gives me anxiety for Kim & Pete, and I don't even know them! And I figured out today why I find this so upsetting. It's not just Ye doing this. He had to hire animators, camera crew, editors, etc. There had to be dozens of people participating in this public threat saying Kim can't leave him and/or he'll murder Pete.
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Jeaniegirl ( member #6370) posted at 8:36 AM on Saturday, March 5th, 2022
Kim can load up the kids in that new $95 Million dollar JET she just bought, Named KimAir and she and Pete can fly away from the crazy Ex.
"Because I deserve better"
OwningItNow ( member #52288) posted at 9:32 AM on Saturday, March 5th, 2022
He bought the house across the street from her. That would absolutely be my worst nightmare, like because he has money he can stalk me legally and out in the open. Whatever I do or wherever I go, he has the flexibility and money to do the same. The kids need a routine though, to go to school and have friends and yes, even see their unstable father. And in establishing what's needed for her kids, she will allow him some sort of control over the situation and access to her life.
I certainly feel worse for women without financial independence; no question. Kim does have great security protecting her from him. But the public nature of his comments and his stalking--and the threatening video--is so triggery to me. When he writes things that have a possessive tone, like "And then she'll come running back to me," I just feel sick.
How about his new gf, the dead ringer for Kim? Sooooo creepy. How did he find this woman? And why would she agree to get involved in this mess as a stand in? (I already know that answer. Ugh.)
Before I met my H, I was with my diagnosed narc bf for 5 torturous years. And to get away from him, I had to rent an apartment far away and tell no one where it was, change my landline and give nobody but my family the number (no cell phones back then), and ask my job not to let anyone in to see me. Ever. But my ex still sent letters and packages to my job and left strange voicemails there--songs playing for 3 minutes at 2 a.m. or clips from movies playing into the phone. Weird, weird, weird. I received letters at work in 2019 and in 2020. He friended me and posted things on social media, but everyone I know has now blocked him. And after 30 years, he put a letter in my home mailbox just recently. The letter said that he drove down my street and saw my kids, saw how old they had gotten. And then he said he saw me and "you look good." Always the stalking and love bombing. He has never left me alone. I still worry he'll jump out from behind a bush and attack me.
Will there be a day that Ye forgets his resentment over Kim leaving him? A day when he feels ok about losing control? Will there be a day when he let's this go permanently? No, no there will not be.
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