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steadychevy ( member #42608) posted at 4:56 PM on Tuesday, September 15th, 2020
I don't know about the subpoena. Legal minds can advise.
FORENSIC ACCOUNTANT. Your lawyer probably knows one and can advise.
BH(me)72(now); XWW 64; M 42 yrsDDay1-01/09/13;DDay2-26/10/13;DDay3-19/12/13;DDay4-21/01/14LTA-09/02-06/06? OM - COW 4 years; "dates" w/3 lovers post engagement;ONS w/stranger post commitment, lies, lies, liesSeparated 23/09/2017; D 16/03/2020
The1stWife ( Guide #58832) posted at 5:00 PM on Tuesday, September 15th, 2020
Thread is posting in Divorce/Separation now
Survived two affairs and brink of Divorce. Happily reconciled. 11 years out from Dday. Reconciliation takes two committed people to be successful.
Vonbock (original poster member #75204) posted at 5:30 PM on Tuesday, September 15th, 2020
Gosh, did anyone else feel like the cheating spouse is getting away with everything and you got screwed?
This0is0Fine ( member #72277) posted at 5:43 PM on Tuesday, September 15th, 2020
I really feel for you Von. When I first talked to my divorce attorney, I immediately felt it was completely ridiculous that my wife could cheat, get half, likely win majority custody, get alimony, get child support, etc.
Like, WTF even is that?
Love is not a measure of capacity for pain you are willing to endure for your partner.
Westway ( member #71747) posted at 5:45 PM on Tuesday, September 15th, 2020
Vonbock it is normal for the attorneys to ask high and haggle down. Don't let the first offers freak you out.
Me: 52;
XWW: 50 y.o. serial cheater
Married 22 years, Together 24
2 Daughters: aged 16 and 20
DDay: 9/20/19
Divorced 12/03/20.
Vonbock (original poster member #75204) posted at 5:56 PM on Tuesday, September 15th, 2020
OK thanks you all. My gosh she was asking for the moon with the petition. Hopefully my lawyers will haggle down.
Thisisfine - yea, that was what she was asking and more.
squid ( member #57624) posted at 8:05 PM on Tuesday, September 15th, 2020
Tell your attorney you want to file on grounds of adultery. Let it get back to her. She how she reacts.
AND GET THAT FORENSIC ACCOUNTANT.
BH
D-Day 2.19.17
Divorced 12.10.18
This isn’t what any of us signed up for. But it is the hand that we have been dealt. Thus, we must play it.
Vonbock (original poster member #75204) posted at 9:52 PM on Tuesday, September 15th, 2020
I remember she said I was a bad husband for 10 years. I am going to wonder if she is going to use it in court. 3 years into into we had kids. Now I am thinking, if I was such a bad husband for 10 years. Why did she stay with me? WHy didn't she divorce me 6 months into it. Why did she want to stay with me despite being a bad husband?
BindassBP ( member #75283) posted at 10:00 PM on Tuesday, September 15th, 2020
You earlier mentioned about her shady investments. If you are sure about it, hire a forensic accountant.
Vonbock (original poster member #75204) posted at 1:10 AM on Wednesday, September 16th, 2020
I am going to wait on my lawyer to see if they still need the forensic account. If my bulldog lawyer threatens her and and she gives me everything in settlement then I might not need the forensic accountant.
HalfTime2017 ( member #64366) posted at 2:57 AM on Wednesday, September 16th, 2020
Wrong, you need the forensic accountant in your case b/c she was hiding marital assets thru her Optometry business. Additionally, those monies were probably spent, used to invest in properties when you said no. The only way you get that half of it is to hire a forensic accountant.
The other reason to hire a forensic accountant is so that you can have the shady stuff she was doing in your back pocket. When you have that information, you will have leverage in the negotiations. Listen, you keep saying how shady your wife is. Why would you not hire a forensic accountant if you know she is shady. It may cost you a few grand, but in the grand scheme of things, it will be well worth your money. Any sort of tax fraud or impropriety and I"m sure they will find some, you use that to your advantage. When your wife goes on the stand, she will have to answer to those shady dealings, and the Judge will view her as the liar, and you much more favorable. You are already going to owe her support, you don't want to over pay
Tseratievig ( member #53253) posted at 3:00 AM on Wednesday, September 16th, 2020
If my bulldog lawyer threatens her and and she gives me everything in settlement then I might not need the forensic accountant.
In order to truly know what everything is, I'd use the forensic accountant no matter what. You might be surprised what's uncovered.
"If you can meet with triumph and disaster, and treat those two impostors just the same."
Vonbock (original poster member #75204) posted at 11:40 PM on Wednesday, September 16th, 2020
she just skipped the temprorary orders in front of judge and wants to go straight to mediation. Is that a sign of anything while working on settlement ?
Curious9 ( member #48433) posted at 11:48 PM on Wednesday, September 16th, 2020
She is probably trying to avoid you looking to much at what she is doing and has going on. I would still push for the forensic accountant to get involved. I would also put it upfront in her nothing will be really negotiated until there is full disclosure on the financial front.
HalfTime2017 ( member #64366) posted at 11:59 PM on Wednesday, September 16th, 2020
Yes, she wants to go to mediation because she is hiding something. Listen, if you were being shady and hiding things, would you want to go thru a judge? By having to go thru the divorce process of detailed disclosures, you are putting her on the spot to say, is this all? If you hire a forensic accountant, she is going to shit her pants.
Vonblock, she is your enemy, and has been for some time. Why would you trust an enemy during mediation and negotiations. you know you already have to pay, your play is trying now to pay as little as the law allows, and if you can catch her being shady, the law will allow for even less.
Buffer ( member #71664) posted at 12:31 AM on Thursday, September 17th, 2020
Again what the accountant and the lawyer says. She has a plan and your best interests are NOT part of her plan.
One day at a time.
Vonbock (original poster member #75204) posted at 12:51 AM on Thursday, September 17th, 2020
My lawyers say they will try to reach settlement before mediation. My lawyers know all the details.
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MountainGuy ( new member #75436) posted at 2:12 AM on Thursday, September 17th, 2020
Here's why you want a forensic accountant:
1. Her sister is running a pills for money medical practice. She has to be careful because the Feds are really cracking down on this.
2. They are using your wife's clinic to launder some of the money.
3. Your wife has been taking that money and buying properties with it, either through her clinic, an LLC or personally.
4. They then rent those properties out to create a legal stream of income.
5. Here are her two main problems: First, her clinic which is now mostly dead, is raking in a shit ton of cash. There's no way she can explain this. An accountant will figure out this is all criminal pretty quickly and could report her. Second: Everything she has purchased, with her money, your money, her sisters money, is a marital asset, which means as her husband, you are entitled to your fair share.
6. Get an accountant. Get your fair share
Pandora16 ( member #56906) posted at 2:37 AM on Thursday, September 17th, 2020
Vonbock,
I think you can have your lawyer mention possibly getting a forensic accountant to your wife’s lawyer. If she is up to things she doesn’t want disclosed, this should be enough to get her to settle with what you are hoping to get. I think that’s what your lawyer is trying to tell you.
My understanding from my own situation is that forensic accountants are very expensive. My ex didn’t want his finances and business scrutinized, so the concern over a possible accounting audit was enough to get me a decent settlement and I didn’t have to go to court or pay additional lawyer and forensic accounting fees. I suspect that all your wife’s complaints about using lawyers is that she has a fear of exposure, so if you can use that fear without the extra expense, you’re coming out ahead.
D-Day #1 12/8/16 (ILYBINILWY), D-Day #2 12/17/16 (admitted to affair)
Divorced: 10/24/17
Married 20 years, together 24, 1 young adult son
Vonbock (original poster member #75204) posted at 4:14 AM on Thursday, September 17th, 2020
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