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 Adlham (original poster member #53358) posted at 7:17 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

Is burning.

The spire and the roof have collapsed.

850 years old.

I am devastated. All that beauty and history.

My heart goes out to Paris.

There is NO need to have that “one last conversation” with a toxic individual in your life.” The closure will come when you look deeper inside yourself. It’s not your job to fix someone when they are unwilling to fix themselves.

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devasted30 ( member #39439) posted at 7:22 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

OMG, this is so sad.

Such a beautiful piece of history.

[This message edited by devasted30 at 1:23 PM, April 15th (Monday)]

And remember Murphy is right. Nothing is so bad that it can't get worse!!!

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latebloomer45 ( member #18021) posted at 7:36 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

My heart is breaking. I feel lucky to have been there three times but to think it might be completely destroyed. I can't stop crying.

It's all the local news is talking about, we are only 350 miles away.

Me: BS 56
Him: FWS 58
Married 32 years
Son-26 Daughter (Who Came out as trans, so now Son)-23,
D-Day #1 12/11/2007
D-Day #2 5/23/2008 fucking trickle truth!
Whatever Threnody said, I concur.

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welcome14 ( member #26741) posted at 7:40 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

I remember the second time I was there, they were holding a choir practice, and it was the closest to Heaven I have ever been, tears for her loss. I understand the whole roof is gone and still burning. I pray for the Rose window to somehow escape...

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Someone I used to know- Him
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I will love the light for it shows me the way, yet I will endure the darkness for it shows me the stars.

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beauchateaux ( member #57201) posted at 8:13 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

This is a tragedy on an immeasurable level. Even if you could rebuild - which they can't, because the cost would be so astronomical that it would be impossible - you can't replace history.

She's been the heart of Paris for centuries. I used to live in France - I'm in tears right now. I can't bear to watch and I can't seem to turn away...

I edit pretty much every post because I always hit submit and then think of 'one more thing' to say.

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Chili ( member #35503) posted at 8:17 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

Just horrible.

2012 pretty much sucked.
Things no longer suck.
Took off flying solo with the co-pilot chili dog.
"Life teaches you how to live it if you live long enough" - Tony Bennett

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HardenMyHeart ( member #15902) posted at 8:20 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

So tragic. My heart goes out to the people of France.

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latebloomer45 ( member #18021) posted at 8:53 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

French news is saying they just hope to save some art, little hope for the building itself, which was already in poor shape, which is the reason behind the renovations. I'm drinking heavily and going to go cry myself to sleep.

Me: BS 56
Him: FWS 58
Married 32 years
Son-26 Daughter (Who Came out as trans, so now Son)-23,
D-Day #1 12/11/2007
D-Day #2 5/23/2008 fucking trickle truth!
Whatever Threnody said, I concur.

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DragnHeart ( member #32122) posted at 9:21 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

So very sad to see such a beautiful piece of history gone. Are the renovations responsible for this? It's just totally tragic.

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latebloomer45 ( member #18021) posted at 9:35 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

DH:

Very likely not. But really too soon to tell.

Me: BS 56
Him: FWS 58
Married 32 years
Son-26 Daughter (Who Came out as trans, so now Son)-23,
D-Day #1 12/11/2007
D-Day #2 5/23/2008 fucking trickle truth!
Whatever Threnody said, I concur.

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DragnHeart ( member #32122) posted at 10:25 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

Whatever the cause it's beyond sad and tragic. Makes me wish I had done my tour of Europe when I had the chance. Hopefully they are able to save as much as they can.

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deena04 ( member #41741) posted at 10:32 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

This is so Heartbreaking!

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Edie ( member #26133) posted at 10:32 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

It feels like a metaphor, a beacon, like it’s burning for the state of the world.

Or something like that 🙁

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somanyyears ( member #26970) posted at 10:47 PM on Monday, April 15th, 2019

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&

Was there in late August 2001, three weeks before 9/11.

Hoping and praying it's not arson...

Is rebuilding even an option with the massive damage ???

So very,very sad...

smy

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 Adlham (original poster member #53358) posted at 2:03 AM on Tuesday, April 16th, 2019

I don't think it would be possible to rebuild it to the way it was before.

The cost alone would probably be bigger than the GDP of many small countries.

Not to mention, the materials and the skill involved...

I'm sure that it will be rebuilt, but I don't think it would be anywhere near what it had been.

I did hear that much of the artwork and Holy Relics were saved. I am desperately hoping that is true.

I have just been so shattered by this. I am not particularly religious and the last time I attended Mass was 12 years ago for my father's funeral. But I was raised Catholic and even though I rarely attend, it's still a huge part of my identity.

But even if I weren't, the loss of the beautiful architecture, historical significance, the artwork, etc, breaks my heart as a human being.

There is NO need to have that “one last conversation” with a toxic individual in your life.” The closure will come when you look deeper inside yourself. It’s not your job to fix someone when they are unwilling to fix themselves.

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looking forward ( member #25238) posted at 2:44 AM on Tuesday, April 16th, 2019

My heart is breaking. We were in Paris five and a half years ago. We walked alongside the cathedral; didn't go inside (my H had already done the tour years before). I wish I had now. We visited instead Sacré-Coeur (The Basilica of the Sacred Heart of Paris) in Montmartre, another beautiful church in Paris.

Double heartbreak. One of the three churches in my parish burned down last week, a beautiful rural wood-framed place of worship built in 1863. Arson suspected. I was commissioned as a licenced lay minister there.

Feeling such loss....the Holiest Week of our Christian year....

Edited to add April 16th:

"Notre Dame isn't just another church in Europe. 'Our Lady' in French, a mother: comfort in concrete and stone. She reminded us there was something better if you sought it, in yourself and maybe in others. That no matter what had your head down, there was something beautiful above."

~ Chris Cuomo on his show last night

The world is weeping...

[This message edited by looking forward at 5:51 AM, April 16th (Tuesday)]

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pureheartkit ( member #62345) posted at 5:02 AM on Tuesday, April 16th, 2019

The relics are safe

Thank you everyone for your wisdom and healing.

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Marie2792 ( member #44958) posted at 1:54 PM on Tuesday, April 16th, 2019

The news today is that the art and bell towers survived and no arson is suspected. $339 million already pledged to the restoration of the cathedral, 113 million of that from Salma Hayek and her husband.

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