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imokay ( member #3522) posted at 9:35 PM on Friday, December 1st, 2017

Double post

[This message edited by imokay at 3:36 PM, December 1st (Friday)]

Me: BS - 58 now
Him: WS - 60 now
Married 21 years at time of A
EA/PA that lasted 10 months.

DD: 2/10/02
Fully reconciled.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us.

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 Analyst (original poster member #56066) posted at 10:58 PM on Friday, December 1st, 2017

SilverLinings55,

You don't think he already feels that he lost, BIG-TIME, by doing this to you? For some sex? The legitimate consequences you doled out after discovery outweigh whatever benefits he got from the affair a thousand-fold.

You sound so much like my mom. She tells me to forget both of them. You see, I just do not want him to get away with it and he did because he lost money, savings and his job. He still has a wife. He can always regain the money if he eventually finds a better paying job.

Financially, yes I agree. I am way far ahead. I also concentrated on my career having crazy amount of OT just to get away from "myself". As a result, I got ton of the experience. The Firm is really great. As far as training and professional improvement, it really supports you like you never believe it. Right now I want to move more into risk management and consulting within the firm as I like those areas more. I also want to obtain CIA (Certified Internal Auditor) certification in addition to my CPA.

[This message edited by Analyst at 5:01 PM, December 1st (Friday)]

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 Analyst (original poster member #56066) posted at 11:26 PM on Friday, December 1st, 2017

HPV50

But your current and prior actions are probably considered acts discreditable, for which you could lose your CPA license. Moreover, KPMG and any other Big four firm would in all likelihood fire you should your actions come to light, regardless of their legality. Top CPA firms are very much concerned with the ethics and morals of their employees.

Da/Yes/ДА, I am from Russia. I hope the following guidence will help address the risk of losing CPA locense:

"Violating standard accounting practices is a serious offense, and a CPA who is found guilty of professional malpractice or an ethics violation by the state Board of Accountancy risks losing his license to practice. A CPA can lose his license if he fails to file an income tax return, files a fraudulent return or is convicted of a felony offense that is punishable by at least one year in prison. CPAs employed by federal government agencies can find themselves facing disciplinary actions imposed by the Securities and Exchange Commission and other government agencies. Federal law gives these agencies the right to discipline CPAs who practice for them."

Plain English: avoid conflict of interest, follow the state laws and reports earnings in accordance with FASB, do not steal client's or your employer property. How hard is that?

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Booyah ( member #60124) posted at 11:29 PM on Friday, December 1st, 2017

Have a good weekend Analyst.

Maybe take a few minutes out to try and enjoy yourself as opposed to trying to think of ways to get back at OM and his innocent wife and kids.

[This message edited by Booyah at 5:32 PM, December 1st (Friday)]

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Catwoman ( member #1330) posted at 11:34 PM on Friday, December 1st, 2017

Right now I want to move more into risk management and consulting within the firm as I like those areas more. I also want to obtain CIA (Certified Internal Auditor) certification in addition to my CPA.

I'm thinking this would be a much, MUCH better focus than OM and his BW.

Cat

FBS: Married 20 years, 2 daughters 27 and 24. Divorced by the grace of GOD.
D-Days: 2/23/93; 10/11/97; 3/5/03
Ex & OW Broke up 12-10
"An erection does not count as personal growth."

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hpv50 ( member #39703) posted at 12:41 AM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

From the AICPA Code of Professional Conduct, of which you are assuredly familiar, since it’s a component of the auditing section of the CPA exam:

.03501-2—Discrimination and harassment in employment practices.Whenever a member is finally determined by a court of competent jurisdiction to have violated any of the antidiscrimination laws of the United States or any state or municipality thereof, including those related to sexual and other forms of harassment, or has waived or lost his/her right of appeal after a hearing by an administrative agency, the member will be presumed to have committed an act discreditable to the profession in violation of rule 501.

The State of New Jersey (as do other states) requires that you comply with both the AICPA code of professional conduct, as well as their own set of guidelines.

Failure to follow them results in sanctions ranging from admonishment to expulsion from the AICPA. New Jersey prominently lists the names of CPAs under disciplinary action on their website. So does the AICPA. They take it very seriously. It’s a black mark on your name.

Perhaps more fundamentally, would you be proud for the KPMG partners to know about your behavior? What do you think they’d say if they saw your postings here, would they be impressed?

Me: BS - 50; Him: WH - 53, covert NPD/ BPD
married 19 years, 3 kids
DD1 4/22/13 (hpv diagnosis)
DD2 5/9/13
Status: relocated my happy; hanging in there for now

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hpv50 ( member #39703) posted at 12:54 AM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

And actually, you posted this yourself:

Violating standard accounting practices is a serious offense, and a CPA who is found guilty of professional malpractice or an ethics violation

Committing an act discreditable- harassment - is an ethics violation.

Doesn’t NJ also require that you take a certain number of hours of ethics classes to maintain your license? Many states do.

Look, I’m done here. I’m just trying to convey that you are not behaving in accordance with the high standards of the CPA certification, of which you seem to value. Or do you value it simply for the money?

Unless you make a concerted effort to change, I think your poor behavior, oppositional attitude, and questionable ethics will manifest at some point in your professional life. It’s difficult to hide for long. Maybe you’ll come around when it does, you’re still young.

Me: BS - 50; Him: WH - 53, covert NPD/ BPD
married 19 years, 3 kids
DD1 4/22/13 (hpv diagnosis)
DD2 5/9/13
Status: relocated my happy; hanging in there for now

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 Analyst (original poster member #56066) posted at 2:32 AM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

HPV,

Friend, read your own post for what is wrtten there and not what you want to see there:

.03501-2—Discrimination and harassment in employment practices.

Whenever a member is finally determined by a court of competent jurisdiction to have violated any of the antidiscrimination laws of the United States or any state or municipality thereof, including those related to sexual and other forms of harassment, or has waived or lost his/her right of appeal after a hearing by an administrative agency, the member will be presumed to have committed an act discreditable to the profession in violation of rule 501.

Of course, if you do it at the employment, i.e. professional setting it brings bad reputation to the profession.

Now, we both agree that adultery is wrong, unethical, deceiptful, lying etc. Do you think there are any CPA who lost their licenses because of committing an adultery (assume for a moment that it did not happen at a work place)?

Regards,

Analyst

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Notthevictem ( member #44389) posted at 4:07 AM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

So, man, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much energy do you spend working on this card? Would you say you spend more or less than ehat you've done on this thread so far?

BH
DDAY Mar 2014
Widowed 2022 - breast cancer

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 Analyst (original poster member #56066) posted at 7:38 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

I spent significantly less time writing those cards. I only write them for Thanksgiving. I spent consideralbly more time explaining here. Other than that I go back to my normal life after the holydays. Generally, I am a happy person.

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Notthevictem ( member #44389) posted at 7:42 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

So, it isn't really something that important to you?

BH
DDAY Mar 2014
Widowed 2022 - breast cancer

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SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 8:27 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

How nice for you, Analyst. Takes little time, thought or energy to shit on an innocent and merrily goes on his way.

BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson

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OwningItNow ( member #52288) posted at 9:02 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

Generally, I am a happy person.

Man, this thread just proves what this site is all about: broken people f@ck up the world because they can't deal with their emotions! Over and over again!

Abuse

Affairs

Ego kibbles

Jealousy

Revenge

Anger

Fear

Payback

The emotions and acting out swirl round and round in every thread, changing places and justifying and continuing the cycle.

When you feel shitty, act out and take no prisoners! It obviously worked well when the WS did it, and "Hey, they started it!" is as valid of a justification as it was when you were 8 years old. I forget sometimes that the people writing these posts are adults. I'll just sit over here with my popcorn and watch Analyst and others like him be "happy." I mean, sign me up! Pure bliss!

#healingisaninsidejob

[This message edited by OwningItNow at 3:03 PM, December 2nd (Saturday)]

me: BS/WS h: WS/BS

Reject the rejector. Do not reject yourself.

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SisterMilkshake ( member #30024) posted at 9:30 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

Exactly, OIN. The WS's don't have the exclusive rights to being fucked up. I have encountered, and encounter, countless fucked up BS's here at SI.

This is why so many of my dear FWS friends here at SI have left. The assumption that whatever a BS does in the name of healing is just fine. It is appalling. No accountability is expected of a BS in some members opinions.

BW (me) & FWH both over half a century; married several decades; children
d-day 3/10; LTA (7 years?)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak." ~ Homer Simpson

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sewardak ( member #50617) posted at 9:49 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

Owningit- that was great. Totally agree

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nicenomore ( member #61087) posted at 10:29 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

THere is a difference between wanting to hurt your attacker, and wanting to hurt the innocent.. it’s why we legally forgive a man who shoots someone who was shooting at him! But we don’t forgive the man who shoots his attacker, and his wife too for good measure....revenge can be cathartic, but it’s not a long term solution for happiness, it takes away your ability to live for yourself. It’s best had short lived and then left in the past...

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 Analyst (original poster member #56066) posted at 10:31 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

OIN,

"Hey, they started it!" is as valid of a justification as it was when you were 8 years old.

It is not a justification. It is a "cause and effect relationship" and yes, WS startes it. Who else?

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 Analyst (original poster member #56066) posted at 10:37 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

Nicenomore,

THere is a difference between wanting to hurt your attacker, and wanting to hurt the innocent..

He hurt my family so I used LEGAL ways to attack where he (and yes, collateral damage: his family since he is not single) would hurt the most: job, money, financial security.

The purpose of the card(s) was simply to make sure that he does not enjoy his holkdays becauze his BS is upset.

After all, he opened his door into his marriage. Look, I do not have a habit of sending cards to random strangers...

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sewardak ( member #50617) posted at 10:42 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

Well following that logic analyst, what did you do to cause your wife's affair?

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HFSSC ( member #33338) posted at 10:46 PM on Saturday, December 2nd, 2017

Chocolate Bread Pudding

Ingredients

1 (1-pound) loaf French or Italian bread, cubed

3 cups milk

1/4 cup heavy cream

1/2 cup coffee flavored liqueur

1 cup sugar

1 cup packed light brown sugar

1/4 cup cocoa powder

1 tablespoon vanilla extract

2 teaspoons almond extract

1 1/2 teaspoon cinnamon

6 eggs, lightly beaten

8 ounces semisweet chocolate, grated

Whipped cream (optional)

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Directions

Preheat oven to 325 degrees F.

Lightly grease a 13 by 9-inch baking dish and place the bread in the dish. In a large bowl, whisk together the milk, cream, and liqueur. Using another bowl, combine the sugar, brown sugar, and cocoa powder and mix well. Add the sugar mixture to the milk mixture and mix well. Add the vanilla and almond extract, and cinnamon to the beaten eggs. Combine the egg mixture to the milk mixture and mix well.

Stir the grated chocolate into the mixture. Pour the mixture over the cubed bread in the pan. Let the mixture stand, stirring occasionally for approximately 20 minutes or until bread absorbs most of the milk mixture. Bake pudding for 1 hour or until set. Check pudding by inserting a knife through the middle and it should come out clean.

Serve the pudding warm, or refrigerate and serve chilled with whipped cream if desired.

[This message edited by HFSSC at 9:26 PM, December 2nd (Saturday)]

Me, 56
Him, 48 (JMSSC)
Married 26 years. Reconciled.

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