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rambler ( member #43747) posted at 3:59 AM on Thursday, March 23rd, 2017

Yankee,

You have filed and served her. You have exposed.

You are not in the middle of the lake, you in three feet of water, put your feet down and walk out.

Do not stay in the house. If you she will continue to think she does not have to change. She will just wait you out. You need to work on you and become stronger. Being around her will stop that.

making it through

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 yankees99 (original poster member #57706) posted at 8:54 PM on Thursday, March 23rd, 2017

I'm already back at the house. But we are sleeping seperately. The dishonesty disgusts me! She told the inlaws that nothing happened between her and OM. I am trying to keep distancing myself... Told me she is looking at atleast 1-2 months more at her job and she can be gone. I don't know if I can deal with that. I believe she is not seeing him anymore but is it ignoring him, being friendly.

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OrdinaryDude ( member #55676) posted at 9:05 PM on Thursday, March 23rd, 2017

It's time for a polygraph.

I was young and dumb and stayed with a cheater.

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Drumstick ( member #55013) posted at 9:13 PM on Thursday, March 23rd, 2017

Besides the poly, also let your BIL know what happened, including spending the week at the OM's housE.

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence - John Adams

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xrnpc ( new member #57346) posted at 9:35 PM on Thursday, March 23rd, 2017

But we are sleeping seperately. The dishonesty disgusts me! She told the inlaws that nothing happened between her and OM.

Don't let her get away with the lying and minimizing.

Told me she is looking at atleast 1-2 months more at her job and she can be gone. I don't know if I can deal with that. I believe she is not seeing him anymore but is it ignoring him, being friendly.

Are you really gonna wait on her for two more months, just take her word on what's gonna happen and the affair really being over?Don't back down on what you said previously:

She mentions not wanting to be responsible for someone else losing their job with todays economy. I told her to just tell the boss about the affair or I will do it myself. She thinks I'm just trying to do that as revenge.

It's not just about "revenge", it's about her choosing you over him.Proving to you that his "hurt feelings" don't take precedence over yours.She only stopped mentioning the OM's " broken heart" at your request, right?Not because she realized it was completely insane and OM's thoughts and feels are worthless.

[This message edited by xrnpc at 3:45 PM, March 23rd (Thursday)]

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goalong ( member #57352) posted at 10:15 PM on Thursday, March 23rd, 2017

"She told the in laws that nothing happened between her and OM." how do you know? Did you correct it with them including her stinky week away?. You have nothing to be ashamed of. You have to go to the extreme and make her face all consequences. If she really care about the marriage, she will endure.Tell her you want control over every things that ordinary dude listed in his post

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OrdinaryDude ( member #55676) posted at 11:00 PM on Thursday, March 23rd, 2017

Until she comes clean and owns everything completely, she is not a candidate for R.

I would also insist that she tell her family the truth too.

I was young and dumb and stayed with a cheater.

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Jsmart ( member #56437) posted at 11:04 PM on Thursday, March 23rd, 2017

YOU MUST CORRECT THE LIE SHE TOLD HER FAMILY. Forward the messages of her talking about wanting to suck him dry and about wanting to ride him. Also they MUST be told of the week long sexcation AFTER Dday.

Letting her get away with this lie, will keep her from facing the necessary repercussions which should include facing the shame from her family.

You also need to verify if this was her only affair. You mentioned that she's been doing different things for her appearance for the past couple of years. Those are usually things that a person does when they're on the prowl.

With your kids already out of the house, maybe it's time to bounce. For a man in his late 40s to early 50s, If you have yourself together, you will be blown away at the amount of women that are looking for a good man. It's the complete opposite of what most men experience in their 20s.

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Sharkman ( member #56818) posted at 6:10 AM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

She is still seeing him.

She's also lying to her parents.

She is not remorseful.

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Rulk ( member #43969) posted at 6:54 AM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

If her family has to be told then they should be told the truth. Don't let her control the narrative that you're this jealous controlling husband that's blowing things out of proportion. Expose her.

[This message edited by Rulk at 12:56 AM, March 24th (Friday)]

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Freeme ( member #31946) posted at 11:56 AM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

Won't tell her parents the truth.

Won't tell work the truth.

Noticing a trend here.

The kids only know the truth because you told them.If her family contacts you I'd tell them the truth. She must have told them some major lies about you and the marriage to explain her being upset at the family gathering and you staying home. Blood it thicker... so don't be surprised if they side with her eventually.

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Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 12:13 PM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

Yankee

Her actions are very typical of wayward. She’s in total damage-control; minimizing what she did, minimizing the affair, trying to control what others know and probably trying to control recovery too.

I don’t think she’s seeing OM as in active infidelity, but she is still in contact per-se.

I have referred to my LEO past. As a rookie, an experienced officer pointed out one interesting trait in human behavior: No matter what they had done, people will justify their actions. In extreme cases a rapist would claim the victim was asking for it, wanted it rough or led him on. The burglar would insist there really wasn’t any victim because insurance should cover what he took. If the victim wasn’t insured, then that wasn’t the burglars fault… The mugger would insist that IF the victim had complied then he wouldn’t have had to resort to violence… The murderer would claim the victim deserved it or provoked the killing…

It was a very rare occasion where someone would raise up their hand and accept total accountability. As a rule, those that did so were “one-time-customers” with us LEO’s.

Your wife is falling into that pattern. She’s minimizing, denying and delaying. I guess she still harbors some hope that 1-2 months from now she can negotiate a deal with you or work to keep her job. I guess she still hopes her family will think this is just a glitch…

What I suggest you do is simply keep calm and keep swimming.

Three feet of water? No Yankee – you are still in deep waters but what’s changed is that you can now see the coast and take a course for dry lands. See the quote in my tagline? I think the same Stoic philosopher said something along the lines of “a man can drown in an inch of water and still be as dead as at the bottom of the sea”.

Don’t take part in drama. No “she said-I said”. Phone whomever hosted her family event and simply tell them that you didn’t want to come because of the uncertainty of your marriage due to your wife’s’ infidelity. Tell them that you KNOW this was a full-blown physical affair and that she left you for a week. What you don’t go into is trying to “prove” your point, cursing, being abusive or rude. Don’t send mass-posts, don’t argue with anyone about the extent of the affair… Just state your case calmly and move on.

And Yankee – Keep moving out of infidelity.

Right now, divorce isn’t what you want, but it beats having a wife that is still in infidelity. YOU move, see if she follows. Ask yourself (and find the answers to) the following:

- What is your financial situation? Debts, assets, credit cards… Get statements and confirmation on everything.

- Do you want the family home? Can you keep it if you divorce? What’s it’s value?

- Get copies of tax returns for the last 5-7 years.

- Start looking round for alternative accommodations. Would you buy? Rent?

- What aspects of your daily life are wife/family oriented? What patterns do you need to break?

Then Yankee – Detach.

I’m NOT suggesting not talking or ignoring her, but start basing your life on her not being around. Leave the house for a movie this evening. Go to a driving-range and hit 200 golf-balls tomorrow. Don’t sit on the couch all day trying to obviously ignore her. Move on, be calm and matter-of-fact. Talk to her if you need to but be totally honest: You don’t have any need for small-talk.

Make it very clear to her – as in telling her:

“Wife. You are still in infidelity. I don’t know if it’s active or not but you are not moving heaven and earth to show me you want this marriage. I can’t accept you being around OM or at the places you had your affair. I won’t take part in minimizing or hiding your actions. I am moving out of infidelity because I don’t want to remain in infidelity. I don’t believe this marriage can be saved or even that it’s worth saving while you are still in denial and in infidelity. I am moving on. If it has to be without you then I am OK with that because it beats remaining a cuckold and staying in infidelity.”

"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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 yankees99 (original poster member #57706) posted at 2:27 PM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

I did correct the lie. Que to her getting mad at me then apologizing. Told me she lied because she doesn't want them to ruin our chances of reconciling.

Told me if I don't believe her about the job situation she doesn't know what to tell me. She said I can talk to her boss herself if I don't believe her. But that she willl be gone in no longer than two months. Probably even one.

Last night she sat me down and asked how can she prove she's not in contact with OM and that she wants to reconcile. Well I'm not sure how that can be proved. She told me I can come with her to work and hang out in her office. She has to visit patients most days but OM has to stay in the office since he's not a nurse.

Well I'm confused. Last night I'd say I got the first decent apology. She sounded sincere in her voice. Reminded me that she has no benefits of staying in this marriage if she didn't want too such as financial or custody. Said sorry for what she put me through that week and didn't know what she was thinking.

She keeps thinking I want revenge. She said I can't sleep with another woman but she could bring another one into our bedroom. If that helps the situation. Confused. She is now showing her different side and seems more sincere and nicer to me.

I used the advice you guys gave me. I told her if we reconcile then the marriage will be a lot different and I'll have to be in charge. She said okay.

[This message edited by yankees99 at 8:37 AM, March 24th (Friday)]

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TheBest ( member #50759) posted at 2:43 PM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

Actions, Y99, not words. Believe nothing of what you hear and only 50% of what you see.

Continue with the 180 and making a better you and see if your WW is worthy of a second chance.

BS: me
WS: her
2 DDs
Trying to figure out my next move. Probably some alcohol.

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ChamomileTea ( Moderator #53574) posted at 2:58 PM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

She said I can't sleep with another woman but she could bring another one into our bedroom. If that helps the situation. Confused. She is now showing her different side and seems more sincere and nicer to me.

What? Is she offering you some kind of threesome as atonement? Because that's not about being "nice". It's not even about atonement. It's about putting you off the moral high ground so she doesn't have to feel like such a crap human being.

Still wayward thinking.

She's going to have to dig deeper than that to figure out how she gave herself permission to act in ways that are outside her purported value system.

BW: 2004(online EAs), 2014 (multiple PAs); Married 40 years; in R with fWH for 10

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xrnpc ( new member #57346) posted at 3:05 PM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

She said I can talk to her boss herself if I don't believe her.

You should talk to her boss.

Last night she sat me down and asked how can she prove she's not in contact with OM and that she wants to reconcile. Well I'm not sure how that can be proved. She told me I can come with her to work and hang out in her office. She has to visit patients most days but OM has to stay in the office since he's not a nurse.

You know how?By ridding OM of his job there as you planned.

It's also great way to test your WW, to see if she would turn on you for "breaking OM's heart" all over again.If she is just lying to you and protecting him till she makes up her mind to leave you again for him.

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Sanibelredfish ( member #56748) posted at 3:18 PM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

Yes, the suggestion of a threesome is weird. It smacks of sex bombing, selfishness (she needs to get something out of it too), and it brings you down to her level. I agree with those saying it is still W thinking. It is an unusual suggestion in many cases, but just flat out weird under the current circumstances. Stuff like this takes tremendous trust and communication between the primary partners, and I believe her recent actions have shot that to hell from your perspective, right?

The more I think about it, I do really think it is about bringing you down to her level to ease her shame/guilt. I wouldn't do it if I were in your shoes.

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Freeme ( member #31946) posted at 3:30 PM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

Yea, I think the 3 some was her way of bringing you down to her level. If you did it she could always throw that in your face. I've heard of other WS making these suggestions.

So, did she tell the boss the truth and is being told 1-2 months or did she lie to them and 1-2 months is what the lawyer and boss are telling her?

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Sharkman ( member #56818) posted at 7:53 PM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

She is manipulating you. When she is out of her affair then maybe you can talk. She's not. She hasn't said a word to her boss.

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goalong ( member #57352) posted at 9:12 PM on Friday, March 24th, 2017

Yankee,

How are you functioning overall? Are you doing OK in your other things like the job functions and taking care of you? I mean this is in a suspended state with ww still around posom and she has already shown that she can act on impulse. Are you in a state of mind that you will not be affected badly what ever happened going forward? If I were you I would keep a close relation with your gal friend who helped you in your moment of despair

[This message edited by goalong at 3:19 PM, March 24th (Friday)]

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