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 TrashPanda7 (original poster new member #86753) posted at 5:04 PM on Tuesday, November 25th, 2025

I'm hating myself today. I am in this limbo. We are working on reconciliation. Wife is doing everything I've asked of her. It feels like we are getting closer and healing is taking place. We are going to couples counseling with an infidelity specialist and I am going to a separate individual counselor for the same thing. She starts her IC soon. We have improved communication drastically even before starting counseling.

Today I started off good, but started thinking about things and this limbo now has me down. I've tried to push it off to think about later but it keeps coming back. There is so much conflicting information out there about what to do and what not to do, when to do it and when not to do it. I don't know what to do. It feels good to be with her and I love her, but on the other hand I worry if I'm wasting my time and should just get on with moving on.

I'm suffering at work, my production sucks. I try to focus and I just can't. I don't have anyone I can talk to. This sucks and just stresses me out more. I'm behind on important stuff. I just wanting to give up.

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1994 ( member #82615) posted at 5:37 PM on Tuesday, November 25th, 2025

TP,
Posting your thoughts here is healthy and will help you process everything in the long run. You're not alone, and you have a whole community of support here. The library tab at the top of the page has some good material on managing your emotions when they get too painful.
Also consider reading "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle. It's a bit on the self-help-y side, but offers real insight on managing painful ruminations.
You're on this train for a long time. Once you begin to see some relief, you should look hard at whether you want to stay in the marriage or reconcile. Only you can decide that. But you don't have to lock yourself into a commitment one way or another just yet. Take time to heal...as much as necessary.
Stay strong.

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Asterisk ( member #86331) posted at 6:05 PM on Tuesday, November 25th, 2025

I agree fully with 1994. You are in a tough stage that nearly all of us are familiar with. My suggestion is to not make a sudden, huge move. Divorce, reconciliation, are both legitimate directions to take depending on what, 1st you want, 2nd what your spouse wants. Either way, there is no easy way through this terrible time. It is good you are here and talking.

Asterisk

Wedding:1973
WW's Affair: 1986-1988
D-Day: June 1991
Reconciliation in process for 32 years
Living in a marriage and with a wife that I am proud of: 52 years

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This0is0Fine ( member #72277) posted at 6:59 PM on Tuesday, November 25th, 2025

I chose limbo for a while. It's ok to choose limbo. Would it be better to have a certain direction? Sure. Is sitting on the fence uncomfortable? Yes. Is it maybe comfortable enough that you want to be up there for a while and look at either side? Maybe.

Give yourself a break for the most part. Remember to take care of yourself. Maybe focus a little on your work productivity and less on your relationship (which I know is difficult to do). My work definitely suffered at the time.

Sorry you are going through this, but you are the one there on the ground, and whatever is working for you day by day is good enough for now.

Love is not a measure of capacity for pain you are willing to endure for your partner.

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Pogre ( member #86173) posted at 7:43 PM on Tuesday, November 25th, 2025

Today I started off good, but started thinking about things...

Yup. That gets me every time. Everything seems cool, then I start thinking about things. Rumination sucks, but it's something I think we all go through in this situation. Just know that better days are ahead. As more time passes those intrusive thoughts do begin to diminish. All you can do is feel what you feel, roll with the punches as best as you can, maybe start a thread here, get some feedback and it'll pass. I know posting here has helped me a lot.

Is there something in particular stuck in your craw today? Whatever it is, someone here has likely gone through it, too. Sometimes just giving it some air and receiving a little feedback helps.

[This message edited by Pogre at 7:44 PM, Tuesday, November 25th]

Where am I going... and why am I in this handbasket?

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 TrashPanda7 (original poster new member #86753) posted at 8:15 PM on Tuesday, November 25th, 2025

Posting on here has helped me every time so far. I went from borderline tears in my office and wishing I wasn't alive with it spiraling fast, to now ok.

Most of the intrusive thoughts and rumination I have gotten through and haven't had an issue since, but there are just 3 things left that keep bugging me:

1. Did they have sex? Totality of the circumstance and my gut feeling is yes. But she insists no. I have not brought it up again but plan on doing so I'm a way my IC helped come up with. The thought of it happening itself doesn't seem to be bothering me as much as the nagging feeling of this just isn't adding up.

2. Have they had further contact? This one isn't so bad. I'm fairly certain they haven't but every now and then I question if I'm being played but it's usually without any sort of tangible evidence or reason.

3. Do I tell AP's wife? I'm so sick with myself for having not done it immediately. IC is telling me to hold off until we meet again to decide what to do. But advice here and other places is to do it now.

#3 is where I started, then work is sitting right here in front of me. Im super behind on important stuff but I can't get my mind off one of the 3, specifically #3 today. Since I can't get my mind off it, I can't stay focused long enough to play catch up and I get more behind which adds to the already high pressure. Then my mind starts darting around to other stuff and before I know it I'm in a spiral I'm trying to escape.

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WoodThrush2 ( member #85057) posted at 8:39 PM on Tuesday, November 25th, 2025

Friend, totally normal what you are going through. Your mind both conscious and subconscious are trying to rewrite your story....your reality. It will take lots of time. I remember the unproductivity, it was horrible. Just keep pressing along. I would ask God to help and He showed up.

The #3 question. I really think you should do it ASAP. Then it is done and the other spouse starts her journey to reality and gives her agency. Besides that, telling her may get you answers to your other two questions. I have read this happens many times.

You can do this. May God guide you.🙏💯

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InkHulk ( member #80400) posted at 11:06 PM on Tuesday, November 25th, 2025

Work suffered for me too for a long time. The brain only has a finite amount of capacity and dealing with betrayal takes up a lot of it. Do your best to tread water, don’t hold yourself to your highest standard for now.

Regarding question 1: polygraph seems like a good path. Just the threat of one took my ex from "accidentally one time" to admitting LTA. Whether or not you believe in the test itself, the fear of it seems to shake a lot out of many waywards.

Regarding question 3: what is your hesitancy? Sorry if that is answered in a different thread.

People are more important than the relationships they are in.

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Cooley2here ( member #62939) posted at 1:05 AM on Wednesday, November 26th, 2025

TP, you need to compartmentalize. There are certain things you need to do each day. Since you are concerned about work…do you have any vacation time available? If so, take it. This gives you time to get your nutrition needs set. If you need help with meds for anxiety this is the time to see a dr. If you feel the need for info see an atty. And you need to figure out how to get decent sleep. A dr can set you up a few months to get you out of this fight or flight mood you are dealing with. Then you need to make a list of what MUST be done. I assume your job is in the top three. What is the moist important thing on the list about the job. Do that first. Do NOT keep looking at the big picture that is your life right now. Put on blinders and focus on the number one at work. When done look at the next. Trying to corral all the out of control thoughts you are having means your brain is looping around and around and it’s exhausting.
So get to the dr first. Get that overwhelming anxiety under control. Your body needs to slow down, calm down, and breathe.
Get outside every day. Do some sort of exercise every day with a short walk around the block. Get sunshine on your face. Look after your health. It is the most important thing to do.

When things go wrong, don’t go with them. Elvis

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 TrashPanda7 (original poster new member #86753) posted at 3:26 AM on Wednesday, November 26th, 2025

I will work on better compartmentalization. I need to get my mind right I guess.

Yes, I have lots of vacation time built up. I feel like I just need to go out in the woods by myself for like a week to pray and think.

I've been pretty good on eating healthy and drinking plenty of water the last two months. I also started working out 3 times a week and have stuck with it. I farm on top of my full time job so I get daily outside time and physical activity rain or shine.

I've been on Wellbutrin but went and saw my doctor after this started and he's got me on paxil as well. I'm on about week 5. I don't like that I'm on them, but the paxil has helped tremendously. I think it's been a life saver. I guess I've been dealing with depression for a long time now.

I have many more good days than bad now, and the bad still aren't nearly as bad as they were. Today just kinda came out of nowhere.

Edit: Sleep is another thing I could probably do better at. It's hard to get enough with the toddler, making intimate time with the wife, and get all the farm/personal stuff done. I do ok but it could be better.

[This message edited by TrashPanda7 at 3:30 AM, Wednesday, November 26th]

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leafields ( Guide #63517) posted at 6:10 AM on Wednesday, November 26th, 2025

My concentration was shot. What helped me was learning meditation through an app. It had a 30-day "How to" that really helped. When my thoughts would spiral, I'd do some of the breathing techniques. Maybe that might help. I didn't try any of the various colored noises, though.

My sleep is not good, either. My doctor had me taking GABA, magnesium L-Threonate, and CBN (no THC, but more expensive) gummies. Talk to your doctor because they may have non-medication options. I also used to wake up at 3am.So, I evaluated how long I usually sleep and delayed my bedtime routine to change my waking time.

For the rumination, there are tons of different strategies. To help change your neural pathways, studies are finding that Match 3 types of games can help rewire your brain. Something like Candy Crush (I play Seeker's Notes), but not World of Warcraft.

The trick is finding what works for you.


ETA: One of the exercises that I did with my IC was to track my negative self-talk. The exercise was to write 3 paragraphs. The first was me writing my negative self-talk, the second was to read the first paragraph and respond as my best friend. The third paragraph was for me to rewrite a more realistic view of the self-talk.

[This message edited by leafields at 6:16 AM, Wednesday, November 26th]

BW M 34years, Dday 1: March 2018, Dday 2: August 2019, D final 2/25/21

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