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 buckeyegirl13 (original poster new member #78665) posted at 5:48 PM on Friday, May 7th, 2021

How do you start rebuilding a broken marriage?

pieceofshitwife

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leavingorbit ( member #69680) posted at 6:22 PM on Friday, May 7th, 2021

Are you in IC? That’s the first step, IMO - fix yourself. The marriage didn’t cheat. I’ll try to elaborate more later but the IC point is important and I’m not familiar with your other threads.

When we drop fear, we can draw nearer to people, we can draw nearer to the earth, we can draw nearer to all the heavenly creatures that surround us. - bell hooks

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Thumos ( member #69668) posted at 6:58 PM on Friday, May 7th, 2021

You're often asking the same question in different ways. I get it, infidelity creates a shit storm of confusion and pain.

Have you read "How to Help Your Spouse Heal from Your Affair"?

Have you written down a specific and detailed plan for how to implement the book's recommendations in your situation?

Have you reached out to a local betrayal trauma specialist for IC and scheduled an appointment?

Have you considered that MC is usually harmful in the immediate aftermath of discovery of adultery?

Have you written out a detailed narrative timeline of the affair many pages in length - with no lies of omission or commission (as the saying goes "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth")?

Have you offered to turn over all documentation of your multiple infidelities to your husband if he asks? Have you assembled same (texting, sexting etc.) so it is ready should he ask?

Have you secured a full STD panel to know you are clean and disease free?

Have you voluntarily disclosed your actions and your choices to your extended family so they understand the pain your husband is enduring?

Have you offered a polygraph? Have you located local polygraph examiners for this purpose?

Have you stopped the trickle truth you talked about earlier?

Have you gone completely NC with all 12 of your AP's and proven this beyond a reasonable doubt to your husband?

Have you supplied information about your AP's to your husband so the OBS/OBGF's can be given information about their own lives and betrayal from their spouses or boyfriends?

[This message edited by Thumos at 1:01 PM, May 7th (Friday)]

"True character is revealed in the choices a human being makes under pressure. The greater the pressure, the deeper the revelation, the truer the choice to the character's essential nature."

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Thumos ( member #69668) posted at 7:07 PM on Friday, May 7th, 2021

How do you start rebuilding a broken marriage?

I do think you need to stop framing it this way. You're doing yourself no favors with this. The marriage wasn't broken.

Increasingly in cases of infidelity today, it is happening in what should be considered good marriages. And this is being acknowledged more and more all the time. Sometimes it happens in bad marriages. But even when that's the case, so many other choices could have been made aside from infidelity - especially serial adultery. It is certainly the case that once infidelity happens, the marriage is indeed spiritually void and the covenant has been broken. Most people feel and understand this, even if they aren't religious.

The most loving thing you can do is to stop trickle truthing your husband, stop blameshifting or justifying anything, avoid AT ALL COSTS rewriting a new false history of your marriage, and be prepared to offer your husband anything he wants within reason -- including, most especially, a peaceful, quick, amicable and favorable divorce should he want that.

Fighting him on that in the wake of 12 men is not a loving act, nor is pressuring him to "fix" the marriage that has been torn asunder.

[This message edited by Thumos at 1:23 PM, May 7th (Friday)]

"True character is revealed in the choices a human being makes under pressure. The greater the pressure, the deeper the revelation, the truer the choice to the character's essential nature."

BH: 50, WW: 49 Wed: Feb.'96 DDAY1: 12.20.16 DDAY2: 12.23.19

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src9043 ( member #75367) posted at 11:46 PM on Friday, May 7th, 2021

You should follow your husband's lead entirely. You need to work on yourself so you never cheat again on him or your next partner if you divorce. Infidelity with twelve men in two years is mindboggling. I have no idea how a couple can come back from that type of betrayal. But, if your husband is willing to try, you should kiss the ground he walks on. If he wants a divorce, make it amicable. Amazingly he is still with you, so I suppose that is a good sign.

But you need intensive therapy with a very good counselor so that you can move on with your life in an honest, righteous manner so that you never repeat such destructive behavior. Take care of yourself physically and emotionally. Good luck to both of you. You both have a lot healing to do.

[This message edited by src9043 at 1:12 AM, May 8th (Saturday)]

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15yrsinthemaking ( member #75828) posted at 11:04 AM on Monday, May 10th, 2021

Disclosure : I'm still new here.

From my understanding your "old" marriage is over. Now you must start from scratch. Show your BS that you are taking action to change, to show them you no longer what to live that way or be that wayward partner.

But before you can address the marriage you must address your issues then you can work on your marriage. And while you are working on you it's important to show support and empathy towards your BS.

One sunrise at a time

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grubs ( member #77165) posted at 4:18 PM on Monday, May 10th, 2021


How do you start rebuilding a broken marriage?


You don't. That marriage is dead. You fix the brokenness in yourself that led you to here. You do what you can to help fix the brokenness you inflicted on the BS. Than once you both have done a semblance of healing, you consider whether or not you are both invested enough in building a new relationship. If the answer to that question is yes, then you build a new marriage in the old ones place.

[This message edited by grubs at 4:19 PM, Monday, May 10th]

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RocketRaccoon ( member #54620) posted at 4:04 AM on Tuesday, May 11th, 2021

As others have posted, you don't, as the 'old' M has been reduced to rubble.

Am curious as to the 'why' *no sarcasm or judgment, so please read objectively*:

- Why do you want to rebuild?

- Why the change in mind after your As?

- Why the change in heart that the M is precious?

- Why does M seem to important now?

You cannot cure stupid

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BluerThanBlue ( member #74855) posted at 1:50 PM on Tuesday, May 11th, 2021

What have you tried so far?

BW, 40s

Divorced WH in 2015; now happily remarried

I edit my comments a lot for spelling, grammar, typos, etc.

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Chaos ( member #61031) posted at 5:35 PM on Tuesday, May 11th, 2021

You don't.

You DO start rebuilding yourself. You be there for the good, the bad and the ugly of your BS rebuilding themselves.

And then you go from there. One baby step at a time.

BS-me/WH-4.5yrLTA Married 2+ decades-2 adult children. Multiple DDays w/same LAP until I told OBS 2018- Cease & Desist sent spring 2021 "Hello–My name is Chaos–You f***ed my husband-Prepare to Die!"

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numb&dumb ( member #28542) posted at 4:49 PM on Friday, May 14th, 2021

You start by fixing your broken self. Seeing a Pdoc about a treatment plan and sticking with it is the best thing you can do to try and heal your M.

Your BH needs IC as well to work through everything himself.

You each heal yourself. Then if you both decide to build a new M. . .that's the time for rebuiling.

Dday 8/31/11. EA/PA. Lied to for 3 years.

Bring it, life. I am ready for you.

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Selithe ( new member #78724) posted at 4:06 PM on Saturday, May 15th, 2021

Ducking multiple men for attention and empowering feelings, yeah... Definitely the wife-mother syndrome / mid life crisis.

Sometimes life tricks us with its ways. In teenager years and early 20s shows us we are the protagonists of our lives than take that privilege away with the responsibilities of being a "spouse and a parent".

I write a lot about "persona creation 101/cheating with personas." Because that's usually what happens in an affair. An alternative reality(more like a fantasy world) created for your pleasure.

People do this for that, they cannot answer the question of "Am I happy in my marriage? and If not Do I wanna leave my spouse or stay together?". When you don't have an answer for these questions and whem you feel truly stuck, that is when the monster inside of you awakens. It creates a double life where 'you think' you can manage and enjoy both lives.

But in reality, it is an escapism tactic at its best. If you end up leaving your BS for OM, guess what? Thst man wants the exact commitments that bound you in the first place. However, this involves personal affairs.

What you had was a purge affair. Which is purging what has developed and accumulated inside of your soul and body out by acting extremely single. Unfortunately, all the years of development and accumulation of love was tainted by those action overall.

Rebuilding is a decision made by BS's alone. You can't make those decisions for him. You cannot give hall passes to him to "even the ground etc" or giving hin trial seperation to 'find out what he needs'...

What he needed was you and you betrayed that. You cannot cheat life or shortcut things with cheap tricks, you gotta learn that.

First, start sharing. I mean finding a Counsellor that has the best interests of both of you is real hard, lets be honest.

So what can you do at this point on, is sharing what led you to this. Finding together what made you so crazy to act this way. What were you getting out of it? Emotional extortion by selling out sex?

I lnow how you feel, because I was once in your shoes, I call my situation by "prostitute of emotions". I had multiple men in my life and my body count is really high. Was never paid in money, but emotional eomance and support. I extorted that thing out of men I seeked by offering sexual relief. Sometimes, we downgrade ourselves to our most primal selves. And that's what I saw within me. The "me" that was desperate for salvation of struggle. And I expressed that by ducking other men and getting emotional support, talking my harsh life and relationship conditions with them, sharing and such.

Overall, you have a lot to solve in your life. Reconciliation in BS's eyes starts with 2 questions though.

1. Will she/he do this or capale of doing this again?

2. Am I confortable with this type of person after the results of the aftermath of affair (estrangement, emasculation humiliation, disgust, anger, brokenheart)?

If the answer is yes then R is possible...

Rebuilding is the answer and next phase once one is in reconciliation. As I said, express yourself as honest as possible to your husband, get into IC to find out your reasons "why's and how's", and share them with him. That helps BS to create a schema in their head to how to move forward from this.

You got a lot of work on your hand and you are literally freaking out as you are losing your core family unit. Just, lay down the reality, never be cold or blame shifting person and never argue the points.

Most vital point, never Trickle truth or hide anything anymore. Just pure honesty.

[This message edited by Selithe at 10:16 AM, May 15th (Saturday)]

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 buckeyegirl13 (original poster new member #78665) posted at 8:04 PM on Sunday, May 16th, 2021

I'm working on fixing myself, I'm in therapy once a week, I go to AA meetings, I'm learning how to love myself again. I know the old marriage is gone I simply just want a new life with him. what I've done to him sickens me everyday. I truly want a life with him and only him.

[This message edited by buckeyegirl13 at 2:05 PM, May 16th (Sunday)]

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Thumos ( member #69668) posted at 8:08 PM on Sunday, May 16th, 2021

That's good to hear. Have you also taken steps as outlined above?

"True character is revealed in the choices a human being makes under pressure. The greater the pressure, the deeper the revelation, the truer the choice to the character's essential nature."

BH: 50, WW: 49 Wed: Feb.'96 DDAY1: 12.20.16 DDAY2: 12.23.19

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 buckeyegirl13 (original poster new member #78665) posted at 8:32 PM on Sunday, May 16th, 2021

Yes, all social media has been deactivated, he has passwords to everything and he has the whole truth

pieceofshitwife

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jinkazama ( member #61319) posted at 11:08 PM on Sunday, May 16th, 2021

Your posts are really short

Maybe you should post more

Like what are you doing daily to improve yourself, your marriage.

And how your husband and you are talking about this situation. So on.....

Then maybe the people here can help you more.

Otherwise your every other new post will be same like " what to do" " how to save marriage"

" How to make him believe that i love him"" etc ..

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Thumos ( member #69668) posted at 11:20 PM on Sunday, May 16th, 2021

Yes, all social media has been deactivated, he has passwords to everything and he has the whole truth

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant also some of the following:

Have you read "How to Help Your Spouse Heal from Your Affair"?

Have you written down a specific and detailed plan for how to implement the book's recommendations in your situation?

Have you reached out to a local betrayal trauma specialist for IC and scheduled an appointment?

Have you considered that MC is usually harmful in the immediate aftermath of discovery of adultery?

Have you written out a detailed narrative timeline of the affair many pages in length - with no lies of omission or commission (as the saying goes "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth")?

Have you offered to turn over all documentation of your multiple infidelities to your husband if he asks? Have you assembled same (texting, sexting etc.) so it is ready should he ask?

Have you secured a full STD panel to know you are clean and disease free?

Have you voluntarily disclosed your actions and your choices to your extended family so they understand the pain your husband is enduring?

Have you offered a polygraph? Have you located local polygraph examiners for this purpose?

Have you stopped the trickle truth you talked about earlier?

Have you gone completely NC with all 12 of your AP's and proven this beyond a reasonable doubt to your husband?

Have you supplied information about your AP's to your husband so the OBS/OBGF's can be given information about their own lives and betrayal from their spouses or boyfriends?

"True character is revealed in the choices a human being makes under pressure. The greater the pressure, the deeper the revelation, the truer the choice to the character's essential nature."

BH: 50, WW: 49 Wed: Feb.'96 DDAY1: 12.20.16 DDAY2: 12.23.19

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