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Just Found Out :
Wife of 30 years had an affair.

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Western ( member #46653) posted at 3:43 AM on Saturday, December 24th, 2016

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Status ?

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Western ( member #46653) posted at 9:17 PM on Friday, January 20th, 2017

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 Notamindreader (original poster new member #56381) posted at 1:33 AM on Friday, October 13th, 2017

10 months since d-day. The divorce has been proceeding for months. We've been squabbling over the horse farm. She thinks she can keep it, but there's no way she can handle the payments, even with alimony.

I told the om's wife, then moved out of the farm and never looked back. Ten months into it I don't miss her anymore. I sometimes miss the life I thought I had, but I don't miss her.

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Marz ( member #60895) posted at 1:56 AM on Friday, October 13th, 2017

Sorry man but I'm glad you finally saw the reality and addressed it.

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Sharkman ( member #56818) posted at 7:51 AM on Friday, October 13th, 2017

Let your lawyer handle it at this point. That’s his job right? :)

How did exposure go?

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Justincase ( member #59189) posted at 9:40 AM on Friday, October 13th, 2017

NAMR good to hear that you're ok. Best wishes.

Watching and gathering, just in case...

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Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 7:41 PM on Friday, October 13th, 2017

The horse farm and her ability to keep it are not your concern.

Make sure you are getting half the assets in some way or another and not taking on more than half the debt.

Like if she keeps the farm make sure there is no debt whatsoever connected to that venture that you are liable for.

If you think she might have a cash-flow problem with the farm then ask your attorney to offer a one-off payment in lieu of alimony. For example: If you were to pay 100 in alimony for 5 years = 6000 you rather make a one-off payment of 4000 now.

Consider the same for you pension, savings and all that. Offer her more assets or even a debt-free horse farm and you keep your pension untouched.

The absolute worst advice on SI is legal advice and the BEST advice is that you have a competent attorney handle your divorce.

"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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Sananman ( member #48513) posted at 9:23 PM on Friday, October 13th, 2017

What bigger said. Her finacial issues post divorce are HER finacial issues. Just make sure you don't have any exposure on them. And DO NOT go all knight in shining armor and be the good guy by taking on one penny more of debt than you are obligated to, or give up any asset you are entitled to. If keeping the farm is important to her use that to get the most advantageous deal you can. Talk to your lawyer.

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 Notamindreader (original poster new member #56381) posted at 9:51 PM on Friday, October 13th, 2017

Sananman, that's exactly what I'm doing. I have a good lawyer and we're negotiating the farm for a better deal on alimony.

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Chappie ( member #56407) posted at 10:14 PM on Friday, October 13th, 2017

Good luck! I for one think you made the right call. Did your wife want to save the marriage?

Do you know what happened to hay boy’s marriage?

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smilethrupain ( member #55712) posted at 10:23 PM on Friday, October 13th, 2017

I know it's none of your concern now, but I'm curious.. do you know if she is still in a relationship with OM?

Sounds like you've got it all planned out. I hope that you meet a nice girl worthy of your commitment in the future.

Me BW 37
Him WH 37
14 year r/s/ 7 years married
DDAY#1 9/4/16 (My 6 year wedding anniversary)
DDAY# 2/3/4... can't remember but spanning months after first dday.
LTA/EA/PA/COW/My "good friend"
1 DS - 3.5 yo (A started when he was 1)

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Western ( member #46653) posted at 2:13 PM on Monday, October 16th, 2017

what occurred over the last 10 months ?

Glad you came back.

Was it your realizing that you couldn't get over it ?

Was it her still in the affair with the other man ?

Was it her not trying to reconcile ?

I am glad you made the move to divorce. She broke badly and you still have a life to lead and deserve to be happy.

Did OM's wife boot him ?

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Western ( member #46653) posted at 2:13 PM on Monday, October 16th, 2017

what occurred over the last 10 months ?

Glad you came back.

Was it your realizing that you couldn't get over it ?

Was it her still in the affair with the other man ?

Was it her not trying to reconcile ?

I am glad you made the move to divorce. She broke badly and you still have a life to lead and deserve to be happy.

Did OM's wife boot him ?

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 Notamindreader (original poster new member #56381) posted at 3:07 PM on Monday, October 16th, 2017

Western,

What has happened in ten months is almost too much to mention. I'll try to compress it.

Immediately after D-day she said she loved me and wanted to remain married. The very next day, she said she wasn't so sure, didn't know how she felt etc, but hoped I would say around while she tried to figure it out. She claimed she had broken off the affair, so like a chump I believed her and stuck around. My only insistence was that we would have to go to couples counselling.

A few weeks into it we went on vacation to Costa Rica, ostensibly to rekindle romance. It was a total disaster, since she hadn't been willing to really discuss anything that had happened. The night we got back I discovered that she hadn't ever really broken off her relationship with the om.

I made plans at that time to move back into the house we had before moving to the farm, since it hadn't sold yet. Unfortunately, before I could do that pipes broke in that house during a deep freeze and gutted nearly all of the house. It was a horror. Insurance took care of it, but the repair/remodel time was around 2 1/2 months.

During that period we lived as separated/still in the same house. The laws in our state wouldn't allow me to kick her out, and I was too tapped out to afford going anywhere else. We were both lawyered up and it was pretty awkward. I didn't tell the om's wife at this time. In truth I was too depressed to do much of anything.

As soon as I was able to move back into my old house I did. At this point I told the om's wife, which ended the affair. My wife then quit cooperating with the divorce and has dragged it out ever since. It's all in lawyers' hands now.

The om's wife said he had a long history of this. I don't know if they ended up splitting or if she's continued to stick with him, but I do know that it ended their affair. I've had no further communication with her, and no direct communication with my wife ever since.

In the meantime, I was able to sell the old house, which I didn't want to continue to live in anyway, and move into a condo that I rent. I've moved on with my life, found a fantastic therapist, and started dating again.

I've had plenty of ups and downs, but it's been mostly up for the last three months. I've been impressed/dismayed at how easy it is to delay a divorce in the state of Illinois where I live, but there's only so much she can do, and court deadlines are looming. It's helped that I cut off all financial support except for the mortgage and health insureance, which I'm stuck with until the next year. After that it'll just be the mortgage, which is huge, but not enough to cover her lifestyle.

I know from second-hand reports that things are very tight for her and she's now looking for a job in another state. She wants me to agree to renting out the farm until she can develop enough of a nest egg to buy me out. I've told her that I'd be willing to do that only if we can build a cap of five years for alimony into our divorce agreement. (Otherwise I'm liable for the rest of my life.) The reality is she won't be able to even at that stage, but that's her problem and not mine.

That's pretty much it. I came back because I appreciated the support of those who commented and I thought you might want to know.

I would say that my most valuable growth has been in the form of learning how much of a chump I had been and refusing to still be one. My therapist asked me during a session what I could think of about my marriage that I would want to change in my next relationship. I thought about it, assuming she was asking me to consider what I might have done to "cause" the affair, and said I didn't think I could have done anything differently. She replied, "how about this: you were too willing to put up with someone's shit!"

I'm not willing anymore. I do wish the wheels of the legal system turned more quickly, but they move at their own pace. I know that I won't get out of this with any settlement that I consider just, but I will get out of it. And in the long run I'll be a lot better off than she will be.

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thatbpguy ( member #58540) posted at 3:08 PM on Monday, October 16th, 2017

Notamindreader, I hadn't noticed this thread before. Very sad to read. It's really sick to discover this stuff on your own.

Not that I necessarily support D over R, but usually it's the best way to go. It was also a good thing to do in informing the AP's wife.

Was she surprised? Or was this betrayal one in a string?

I know that in a few years you will be I nan incredibly better place.

Best of luck.

ME: BH Her: WW DDay 1, R; DDay 2, R; DDay 3, I left; Divorced Remarried to a wonderful woman

"There are far, far better things ahead than any we leave behind." C.S. Lewis

As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly...

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Curious9 ( member #48433) posted at 3:23 PM on Monday, October 16th, 2017

Is her reason for dragging her feet on the divorce because she wants you back or she is upset you destroyed her life with Mr.Wonderful?

C

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 Notamindreader (original poster new member #56381) posted at 4:03 PM on Monday, October 16th, 2017

Curious9,

I'm not sure how much of her stonewalling is motivated by anger that I spoiled her fun and how much is motivated by the fact that the divorce will cut into her lifestyle. I think economics is a big part of it. She was trying to start a business on my time and she's been determined to keep that seed money going as long as possible.

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Wool94 ( member #53300) posted at 4:14 PM on Monday, October 16th, 2017

Glad to hear you are making the best out of a bad situation.

Stay strong!

D-Day #1: April 7, 2016
D-Day #2: May 21, 2016
D-Day #3: June 7, 2016
Me: 1975
Her:WW (amn8r) 1981
Son 2006
Daughter 2009
"God not only loves you, but He actually likes you. "-Stephen Hooks

"My faith is mine now."

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Curious9 ( member #48433) posted at 4:17 PM on Monday, October 16th, 2017

I am really sorry. She sounds like a really selfish person. I hope you will pull out of this ok.

C

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Western ( member #46653) posted at 4:54 PM on Monday, October 16th, 2017

Notamindreader,

I am glad you finally had the fortitude to file.

Several lessons here for outside readers (not for you notamindreader).

First, some people can break over time, like Not's wife.

Secondly, some states have really bad divorce laws. oddly enough, I know a couple getting divorced in Illinois and it's hell but in that case, the guy is the one causing problems. Lifetime alimony's a horrible system and it is being phased out in the few states that have it but apparently Illinois is one of the few who have this left.

Third, the affair continues underground and much of the time, it does.

Fourth, exposure is always critical

Fifth, better days will be ahead and the pasture can be greener. Notamindreader has very good days ahead of him.

Questions for notamindreader,

1) Looking back, what do you think changed her or broke her ?

2) Do you think she may have cheated on you before ?

3) Does your attorney think you will come out ahead /

I really wish you peace as you sound like an upstanding guy. You didn't deserve what you got and while I know you didn't want to be in this situation, your coming back helps this board and makes SI a better place. Quite honestly, I had wondered what ever happened in your situation.

I can't for the life of me understand why someone would do what she did after 30 years. Absolutely horrible

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