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Cephastion ( member #51990) posted at 12:42 AM on Monday, February 12th, 2018

Oh OKAY, then! You TWISTED my ARM, Mrs. Life!

Here's a couple more:

Rachel Platten - Fight Song (Official Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1VInw-SKc

I sent the original video to you here instead of the lyrics one because I really liked the imagery of her struggling and alone with her struggles in the early parts of the song.

However, I'm not so wild about the seemingly "liberated and single" woman imagery (in your context at least) that follows the second half of the result of her getting her mojo back.

Also:

If God is For us (Who Can be against us?) - DeGarmo & Key

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpTo_1Pan0s&list=PLHYrclNEQFxbQEFkoA9-C8YOjNhjWAZo4

And:

RussTaff - I Still Believe

https://youtu.be/gbg11aisP4Y

[This message edited by Cephastion at 6:45 PM, February 11th (Sunday)]

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Cephastion ( member #51990) posted at 4:23 AM on Monday, February 12th, 2018

Another thing here, and this one might be REALLY helpful to the both of you if the shoe fits and ya'll are still facing the "why's" of that horrible day of betrayal.

There is a thing I recently saw on here about something called "limerence". There've been studies done on this and I think it might have a lot to do with WHY you responded the way you did that day/night.

It makes no excuses for the compromise, BUT...it really supports my earlier notions that I've shared with you and BrokenSavage.

Here's a little quote about it I thought to post here for you and Mr. Life:

Much to the dismay of diehard romantics, research suggests that limerence is the result of biochemical processes in the brain. Responding to cues from the hypothalamus, the pituitary gland releases norepinephrine, dopamine, phenylethylamine (a natural amphetamine), estrogen and testosterone. This chemical cocktail produces the euphoria of new love and begins to normalize as the attachment hormones (vasopressin and oxytocin) kick in, typically six to 24 months into a relationship. In much the same way that changes in the brain cause drug addicts to feel an intense, all-consuming draw to get and use drugs, limerence can drive people to extremes in the pursuit of the object of their affection.

Some call limerence infatuation, lovesickness, or romantic love, while others relate it to love addiction. Some have humorously called it affection deficit disorder. Albert Wakin, an expert on limerence and a professor of psychology at Sacred Heart University, defines limerence as a combination of obsessive-compulsive disorder and addiction, a state of “compulsory longing for another person.”He estimates that five percent of the population struggles with limerence.

Other sources I read up on it didn't convey the sense of longetivity dependence of the relationship that this tidbit does, but either way, you were pretty much EA with that guy whether you really realized it at the time or not, IMO, so it's not invalidated by your friend's-only terms there I don't think even without that allowance.

There's a lot more to this than just that lil quote there, but that should give you a thumbnail view at least of what I'm getting at here.

Pulling for ya over here (as you should know by now). Do feel free to share anything I share with you to your husband as well, particularly since my goal is for all THREE of ya'll to come out of this thing alive and well and intact and healed.

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RubixCubed ( member #51615) posted at 5:12 AM on Monday, February 12th, 2018

I wasn’t fortunate enough to have the same understanding of love that many other people have. My husband and I have a mature, genuine love for one another. It isn’t limerance. It isn’t what fairy tales and romance novels are made of. We are partners, we are friends, we are a team. There are no unicorns and there are no rainbows. There’s simply real people trying to make our way through real life.

All of those bolded things describe the feelings of an affair more than a marriage, they're all very temporary, so I'm glad those things are not in your relationship.

Are you in love with your husband now?

[This message edited by RubixCubed at 11:14 PM, February 11th (Sunday)]

"But I'm trying, Ringo. I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd."

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 ASoCalledLife (original poster member #59641) posted at 12:37 PM on Monday, February 12th, 2018

RubixCubed,

I am in love with my husband. And I always was. I just didn’t realize it because I mistakenly thought that if you are “in love” then you have all of these feelings of butterflies in the stomach and all of the things you commonly see portrayed in cinema, literature, music, etc with regard to love. I never had that with my husband. Maybe it would have developed if circumstances were different for us, but it didn’t.

Please remember that I was homeschooled. Also that I don’t process things the way others do as I have Asperger’s. My parents sheltered my brother and I. I didn’t have a car, didn’t have a license, didn’t know how to drive (until my husband taught me). I had very little dating experience prior to my husband, and none of the short-term high school “boyfriends” I had were serious.

I met my husband when I was 18 years old and had barely started college. We started dating right away and lost our virginity to one another. A condom broke one day and shortly after we found out we were going to be parents. He proposed, I accepted. Both his parents and mine freaked out at the news (his more than mine). Neither set of parents sent their child to an Ivy League college for this. His parents threatened him, demanded that I get an abortion, told him they’d disown him if he married “that black girl.” My parents were hurt and disappointed, but they decided to support us. We got married. We tried to finish the school year out. I had a difficult pregnancy, got sick a lot, and ended up hospitalized, failing out of all of my classes.

We found full-time jobs, got an apartment in a terrible part of town (but it was a place we could afford), and committed ourselves to raising our son. Our son has special needs, so a lot of our energy (then and now) goes to him.

I’m sharing all of this to demonstrate that we didn’t exactly have a smooth ride in the beginning. Our coming together was not like most couples. We didn’t have the luxury of a honeymoon period to bask in lovey-dovey feelings like other people do. We’ve been in combat since the very beginning. But we’re in combat together. I have his back and he has mine. He is strong, caring, smart, loving, smart, and sexy as hell. He has been there with me through some of the worst experiences of my life as well as some of the best. Yes, I am in love with him, and I’m proud to be his wife. I just wish it hadn’t taken all of this for me to realize what I had.

Thankfully, hubby and I are in R. Joined SI in 2017 and left this site per DH’s request in mid-May 2018; be blessed everyone!
-Mrs. Life

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 ASoCalledLife (original poster member #59641) posted at 12:45 PM on Monday, February 12th, 2018

Cephastion, great songs as always! And I think you are, unfortunately, correct about the limerence and the EA with my former “friend” although I wasn’t aware of it at the time.

My IC had me do some reading on the brain chemicals of love (which had also been suggested on one of my threads by previous posters). It’s really fascinating (and, in hindsight, kind of disturbing).

I just can’t believe I was so clueless about all of this. I want to raise my son to be more aware of things, of life, than I was/am. He seems so naturally innocent and unknowing; he’s not precocious by any means. I don’t want to change who he is, but I wanr to equip him. So he will be better informed and better protected.

Thank you for your support as always.

Today I plan to have “the talk” with my mother. So embarrassing. It makes my stomach turn just thinking about it...I’ll share how it went.

Thankfully, hubby and I are in R. Joined SI in 2017 and left this site per DH’s request in mid-May 2018; be blessed everyone!
-Mrs. Life

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Cephastion ( member #51990) posted at 12:53 PM on Monday, February 12th, 2018

Oh, silly me. I see that you're already acquainted with the term "limerence".

I certainly don't mean to talk down to you or your husband, btw, Mrs. Life. I didn't remember that you were a would-be Ivy Leaguer...I'm just a reletitively ignorant blue-collar, formerly sheltered, only child, private-schooled, church-goer myself.

I may have heart, but that's because I've touched and BEEN touched by Christ in very real way or two that I never expected or even dreamed was even possible.

But that heart's been BROKEN more horribly and entirely than I ever thought possible, too, so please excuse my occasional " French".

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Cephastion ( member #51990) posted at 1:07 PM on Monday, February 12th, 2018

I just read your post that preceded mine while I was still typing it out.

Your mom might be more understanding than you expect. Of course I don't know her, but the bible says that even Christ Himself was tempted in all ways that are common to us all, yet without sin, and that He can identify with us in our weakness. I don't think that " weakness" at all means sin itself there, but if even He can relate to the struggle of being sorely tempted, then your own mother might very likely be able to identify well with that also, even though she remained married and "true" to the best of your knowledge.

Either way, it ought to be a serious help to your own soul to get it said and done and move on with your husband, with or without sympathy or understanding from others, just to NOT have the burden of keeping all of this business " classified" and having to constantly face that invisible wall up between y'all and your own folks (yours at least).

I get why y'all didn't go public with this, particularly with HIS folks. But it'll be good to get the lead and the burden off your back and mind and heart about how to dance around those landmines around your own mother without setting any of them off. Good for your BROTHER as well, I expect.

(Edited to clarify " NOT having to keep things classified and keep having to face invisible walls.")

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RubixCubed ( member #51615) posted at 7:51 PM on Monday, February 12th, 2018

ASoCalledLife,

You and your husband have definitely had a tough row to hoe, and in the short term, it doesn't sound like it will get any easier. I hope you and he both can improve on your decision making in the future as that is what leads to the struggles you seem to face. I wish the two of you the best of luck in your future, whatever that may bring.

"But I'm trying, Ringo. I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd."

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notperfect5 ( member #43330) posted at 5:34 PM on Thursday, February 15th, 2018

Apparently he went to a sports bar for a few hours and was drinking. Somehow decided he needed to go confront the AP. Says he hadn’t intended on fighting, just giving him a piece of his mind. But the AP had a smirk on his face and was being patronizing under the guise of pseudo-politeness, and he snapped...threw a punch, and they began fighting. A neighbor called the police.

I am very lucky that my wife's AP is not in this state. He's around 4 hours away, so I know, should I start driving over his way, I would cool off and not serve revenge.

If I ran into him, even now, 2-1/2 years after finding out, I would likely gouge out his eyes and try to rip his head off. I have told him it would be best, for both our sake, if he stayed out of my city.

What your husband did was defend his family and the honor of your family. I never did that, and I am in agony because of it. If I ever were to meet him, I would surely rage at him and I would probably end up in jail.

And yes, it would be my wife's fault.

Instead I have had years of PTSD. I'm sure this has shortened my life by years as a result.

Your husband did this and there will be consequences. But the consequences of him doing nothing may well have been far worse. I don't know about women, but men, when confronted with a problem or a threat will fight of flight. He chose to fight, and I can completely understand why. I would chose to in his situation.

Take if from me, one who seethes from afar at my wife's AP. Sometimes it's best to get it out of the system.

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Cephastion ( member #51990) posted at 1:42 PM on Friday, February 16th, 2018

You've got me waiting on pins and needles, Mrs. Life.

That reminds me, if you still don't know about white knuckling thru a problem or situation means, I think it refers to grabbing a hold of something so tightly and with an extraordinary degree of resolve, focus, and likely adrenaline as well. And the context according to my own impression would have to involve a very high degree of stress, fear, or mental/emotional discomfort, which the white-knuckler is attempting to hold their position, sanity, and consciousness through lest they bolt or buckle or "lose their grip" under the pressure of it all.

When a fair-skinned person grabs the steering wheel tightly as they anticipate and/or experience a collision, for example, the adrenalized emergency response of the body not only gives added strength to their hands and other members of their body, but also redirects the blood flow to the brain and vital organs in the triggering of a somatic, automatic survival mode.

Consequently, with the skin being so stretched, stressed, and thinned out, the knuckles themselves often appear white.

As for "waiting on pins and needles", I think it refers to waiting so long in the same position and with such anticipation, that the blood flow is reduced to the lower half of the body so that the little stinging sensations that accompany one's leg or arm " falling asleep" is implied.

Of course, it's technically just an expression of a sense of suspense, anticipation, and desire for relief from such...

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VinST ( member #61493) posted at 6:40 AM on Thursday, February 22nd, 2018

Horrible circumstance. Sound like AP was trying to illicit a response out of you. Almost a sympathy quest. Rather low!!

It is my opinion that you need to message this AP (no voice or personal contact) and tell him it was the biggest mistake you ever made and to leave you and your family alone. I remember asking you about the circles you keep as you will most likely run into him again. (another trigger for your husband).

Did you ever elude to him that he was better sexually that your husband? if so he may feel he has a psychological edge over your husband. like I mentioned before.. this may be a huge stumbling block for your husband. Did you engage in the sexual acts you did with husband with him as well... ie oral etc? you will need to help your husband get his pride back... this is a long road.

I feel for your husband here. he is clutching at straws in an attempt to win his dominance once again. one thing you must relay to him... alcohol should be done with. "be of sober mind" is a strong statement in scripture for a reason. he needs to keep a clear head.

I am holding thumbs for your family. All is never lost in this case. good luck!

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LivingWithPain ( member #60578) posted at 8:02 PM on Thursday, February 22nd, 2018

ASCL im a BH here.

I was arrested for beating the hell out of my WW's OM. Granted it was at my own house where I caught them in bed. The city magistrate was told what happened, by myself and the arresting officer, and she found me guilty of a class 3 misdemeanor simple assault and fined me $100 and day in jail suspended. In all, I was in jail for about 6 hours total. You know what? It was a good thing for me to have experienced. Never again will I go off half-cocked and put myself in a position like that again.

I don't feel bad about beating the OM up. I feel bad for being stupid enough to go to jail for the anger I had towards my WW. I will never risk jail for a woman again. Never. No relationship with any woman is worth my freedom.

And tell your mom/MIL or whoever about the affair. She deserves to know that you have been hiding the truth from her. Had you told her back when it all went down, she would have made sure that dirtbag never came around her house again, and you would not be in this sitch now.

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Cephastion ( member #51990) posted at 7:34 PM on Sunday, February 25th, 2018

Mrs. Life,

If this thread and posting in it is dragging you down, then I can understand you not wanting to hang around here for the time being.

I personally find that the forums and threads here in SI-land are a lot like people and places that may or may not be the best to get really close to depending on your reaction to what's here.

You don't need to feel any more guilt or remorse than you already have on your conscience for what happened that fateful day/night. I think it's a bad idea for you with where YOU'RE at by now to read up in the JFO forum. I hardly can stand to visit there myself and the WS shoe doesn't even FIT me! (I don't think it really fits YOU at all at THIS point, either, btw, at least not like it once did, that's for sure.)

I think you are trying to punish yourself. I can relate to this and so can my fWW I must say. If you were immune to the truth, then I would agree with you needing to be force-fed it via the horror show that is always on here 24/7. We often do things to "help God" fix us and our worlds thru guilt or sorrow or other means. I don't think that's a bad thing either unless we're not actually getting anywhere in the process.

If your husband shares his pain like I do with my own wife, THAT will be hard ENOUGH for you to bear without taking on others' guilt by proxy, IMO. That's not your job at this point. Christ was qualified to bear others' guilt and shame but that's not what He's called YOU to do right now, IMO. You need to focus on the stuff inside and out YOU and those in your world. Be the "home-maker" just like you're trying to do and be. But part of that means bringing in the sunlight NOT bringing in the darkness.

But maybe Darkness looks too familiar right now perhaps. There's a common saying: "misery loves company". And another is that "birds of a feather flock together". But you are no longer in the dark. And the only reason you EVER WERE a wayward is because things in your mind and heart (and your AP's & employer's) were unknown to you at the time. I'm not saying that you aren't to blame for your own sin(s) there, but what I AM saying is that I don't think that sick people and dark threads is where YOU belong at ALL. YOU'RE NOT one of them and even when and to the extent that you USED to be one of them, it was only because you were BLIND.

You're better than that now. I for one want to encourage the stuffing out of ya. I'm not like this with most "waywards" on here, btw. There's a real difference with YOU. I don't think you know you well enough to convict and punish or even fix yourself at this point. There's soooooo much more to this stuff than just whether or not a spouse stays sexually faithful from henceforth and onwards, as I'm sure you quite well know by now.

My own wife has been faithful for about 22 years now, since reconciling the last round of adultery-crazy back in 1995 or so. But...we are only recently really going thru the dark labyrinths of waywardness that got us into the infidelity boat all those many years ago, and rugsweeping and unhealthy coping and self-hating has largely cost us our relationship with our oldest son who is largely wayward in his thinking as well.

Don't let the darkness rob you or your family any further.

Stay in the light and get all the dark OUT, while the opportunity is there and the "iron is still hot" whether SI and it's resources are a part of that equation and process or NOT.

I hope you're doing well in IC. I miss encouraging you, because it also encourages and heals ME some in the process (just a little pinch of guilt there, btw... ...shameless, I know, but... ). I want you back on here because you move me to greater empathy with my own wife in a proxy kind of way...and the Scriptures tell us to provoke one another to good works...I feel for your husband AND for you. I think it's a good thing that He can take such a horrible thing as this and somehow redeem the people who took part in it. I want and need to see others taste the fruit of that miracle. It;s too lonely feeling like we're the only ones we know who've survived it. Our own healing process was DEATHLY private and quiet and...well...in the dark, too, really. This is almost the ONLY outlet I've had to air it out in because of the shame and stigma of the whole thing. But at least we're airing it out together and regularly now instead of separately and/or not at all.

I've probably told you this before now, but something that REALLY helped us through this processing and venting and communicating thing was to get a couple's only app on our phones that is private just between us both. It allows us to say whatever we want without the body language or volatility that used to inhibit "free speech" between us. We never used the optional tracker built in because we were well past that by the time we got it on our phones, but the privacy and features on there have been invaluable to us in building our understanding of each other in the last three years or so of our marriage.

Anyhow, if you ever need to heap on some guilt, I'm sure there's a fair bit of that here on tap at SI. But I recommend the "happy hour" crowd (like myself and a good many others) as opposed to the graveyard/ICU-ER/JFO crowd. I just don't think you fit in with those guys at ALL, personally speaking. And if Mr. Life wants anyone to talk to...you know my username. I know a couple of other guys he might like to talk with on here as well.

In The Light - Anthem Lights feat. Jamie Grace (Acoustic) [Lyrics]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=694ajfbJo1o

Until you post again...be encouraged. And for whatever it's worth to ya, I'm still over here pulling for all ya'll.

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 ASoCalledLife (original poster member #59641) posted at 1:01 AM on Sunday, March 18th, 2018

I hadn’t come back to this thread because I had fallen into a depressive funk and everything was triggering me - my own words especially. But I know that there’s some new betrayed and wayward members (I’ve seen new names appear in various threads on SI’s different forums).

In light of Mrs. Walloped’s bravery and openness, I thought it might be beneficial for others if some other Waywards share some more about ourselves. Because maybe there might be something in one of these stories that might help somebody else.

Many of us come here - SI - to take. That’s not a bad thing in and of itself as that’s what it exists for. For people to take in advice, to take in others’ perspectives, to take in wisdom...sometimes to take in 2 x 4’s. But my parents raise me to give. And while I do not think there’s any shame or debt incurred by being in a position where one needs to take, there also comes a time to give.

I don’t even know if anything that I have to give - meaning what I have to say - is even of any value. But maybe for someone who is hurting and in a low place something I say might resonate just a little. At least I hope...

So I’m going to recap a bit, and then once I’m done I’m going to share some good news.

First, the backstory.

I’m 29 years old and have been married to my husband, who is 30, for 10 years. We have a wonderful 9 1/2 year old son we both love dearly and we have an angel baby, a daughter that we lost at 21 weeks three years ago.

My husband and I met and married our first year of college. Other than a brief, unsuccessful stint in “real school” I, along with my twin brother, was homeschooled. Growing up very sheltered and also having Asperger’s, I didn’t have many friends growing up nor in adulthood. But I did have a best friend, someone I had known all my life. Once I got married, my best friend and my husband also became very good friends. So much so that we made him our son’s godfather.

Fast forward several years. I was having lunch at my best friend’s house as I often did. I was having a very emotional, heartfelt discussion with him about a traumatic situation I was dealing with at work, and I began to cry. My friend consoled me, and then out of nowhere leaned in for a kiss. After a stunned, frozen moment, I kissed back...and then my life changed forever.

We were intimate several times that afternoon. I had never, before that day, been with another man outside of my husband. I threw away years of integrity that day and altered my family’s lives irreparably, and I didn’t even know why.

I was aghast at what I had done. And was determined that it would never happen again. I made sure to have no physical contact for the next four months. This was very hard because I was accustomed to seeing this friend regularly and my husband, noticing his absence, mentioned a few different times that we should invite him over to hang out.

I was determined that this one-time, horrific action would never repeat itself and that I would never hurt my husband by telling him what had transpired. I would spend the rest of my life making it up to him, and I would take it to my grave.

I was firm in my decision. Yet something felt amiss inside of me. I wasn’t sure what it was exactly. Having lost my father suddenly a few short months before the incident, I figured maybe it was grief. I increased the number of visits to my father’s grave. But the feeling remained. It even intensified. I didn’t know what to do. I felt that I couldn’t talk to anyone about this. Not my ultra-Christian mother. Not my brother. Not anyone at work, especially since I was the head of a non-profit program sponsored by an internationally known megachurch. And certainly not my husband!

One day I went online. Searching for insight. Answers. Anything. And I found SI.

I read voraciously. Thread after thread. After thread. My heart was sickened by all that I saw. But I knew without a doubt why I had been feeling so uneasy and though I was terrified, I knew what I had to do.

The day came. The day I would no longer live a lie. I sent my son to relatives for the night, made dinner, and sat my husband down and told him what I had done.

He laughed at first. Thought it was a big joke. Me? Having sex with someone else? With my lifelong friend, our child’s godparent? My husband actually got up and walked around, looking for a hidden camera. Assuming this was some sort of late April Fools’ Day gag. Not finding it, he came back, smiled at me, and laughed some more. The expression in his eyes was so full of love and trust.

I recognized the exact moment he came to the realization that this was not a joke. I saw the light fade from his eyes and his smile slowly erode. He turned pale (something that rarely happens - my husband is South Asian and has beautifully naturally tanned skin). He tried to speak. He couldn’t get the words out. He tried again. Then he grimaced as if in physical pain, bent over, and vomited. He fell to the ground on his hands and knees. He let out the most painful wail I have ever heard, and then he began to weep uncontrollably. I was crying as well, devastated at what I had done to him. He cried and cried - the man who never cries. He looked up at the ceiling, “Oh God, no,” he screamed. “It’s not true. It’s not true. Oh Go, no. No.”

It was the most horrible thing I had ever experienced outside of burying my father and burying our daughter.

I don’t know how long we were like that. Then abruptly, he got up and left. Next thing I knew I heard him speed away. He was blasting loud music. I cried and cried. And waited for him to return. Eventually I fell asleep on the floor waiting.

At about two or three in the morning I woke up. He was back home. I don’t know how long he had been back. As I glanced up he was swigging a gulp of some alcohol. And he was clearly drunk. Extremely drunk. He was glaring at me with so much coldness and hate that I literally shivered.

He laughed. A strange, erratic laugh. Gulped down some more alcohol. Laughed again.

“They told me not to marry a stupid nigger bitch,” he said. (I’m biracial - mixed black and white.) He had NEVER called me a name before, much less a racist one. NEVER EVER. “I should have listened to them. They were all right. I’m so stupid. You’re nothing but a whore. A lying, disgusting c***. A nasty, pathetic bitch.”

I tried to choke out an apology. I was shaking uncontrollably. I had never seen him like this. It just made him angrier. “Shut up, BITCH!” he shouted at me. I stood and started to try to come over to him, to hold him. “DON’T TOUCH ME, BITCH!” he screamed. I jumped at his words. He saw my fear and then he started to cry. “No, no. I’m not going to hurt you. I would never hurt you. You don’t have to be scared of me. I’m sorry. I hate myself. I hate myself...”

The fact that he was apologizing to me hurt me even more and made me cry even harder. He came over to me and wrapped his arms around me. I clung to him like I was dying. We stayed like that for a while, crying in each others arms. Eventually he passed out.

I don’t know what triggered it next, but I became irrational. I watched him asleep. He looked so gentle, so peaceful. Yet I knew that peace would disappear the moment he woke up. I became overwhelmed with shame and regret and disgust. I wrote my husband and my son a suicide note, and I left, fully intending to take my own life...what I hadn’t counted on was my husband waking up not long afterward, reading the note, and frantically calling my brother, who was able to guess correctly from the content of the note where I might have gone to do the deed. And was able to locate me and rush me to the ER where my life was spared.

That was a dark day. But it got darker...

Having to tell my husband every sick, gruesome detail of my hours-long sexual encounter. Having to provide graphic descriptions of genitalia, body fluids, and specific sex acts. Having to see him die inside with every word that came out of my mouth.

Foolishly having an “ILYBINILWY” conversation with my husband one difficult day, and seeing him recoil from my words as if he had been shot.

Seeing my husband drink uncontrollably night after night in an attempt to cope with what had happened, to the point of losing his job.

Being told by my husband that he was going to kill me, our son, and himself (he didn’t mean us harm; he was just hurting).

Having to see my husband committed to an inpatient mental health program for a month because he was severely depressed and heavily contemplating suicide.

Having our son regress to the point of needing to wear absorbent underpants for urinary incontinence because of the stress at home.

Having to enroll my child into therapy.

Losing ~30 pounds due to inability to eat in the aftermath of the affair.

Being told by my husband to leave our home and that he wanted a divorce and wanted primary custody of our child.

Having my husband get drunk, drive to the home of my former friend, break his nose and orbital socket, and end up in jail.

We have been THROUGH it. It has been painful, excruciatingly painful.

But through it all we never gave up on God. Nor on one another. I accepted responsibility for my wrong actions. I submitted to my husband. I quit my job. I kept going to IC. I kept digging. I kept working to show my husband he was loved and to try to demonstrate my remorse through action. I kept trying to understand what I needed to do to be a safe partner, the type of woman deserving of my husband. I initiated sex - when he was ready - and in doing so I yielded fully to him emotionally and physically, making sure we both had phenomenal orgasms each time. I cooked meals for him and brought them to him - daily. I gave him space when he

I still have work to do on myself. I’m not the woman I want to be. But I’m not the woman I was that fateful day. I mean, I am, but yet I’m not. That woman was fearful and weak and didn’t understand her own thoughts nor her own strength. She didn’t think to say, “No,” to protect her own integrity nor her marital vows. She could stand up for anyone except herself. That isn’t the case any longer.

I am a woman who is working now to become whole. To heal the damage I caused, but to also heal myself. I am realizing that people don’t have a right to just do whatever they want to do to me. Whether people in authority like an employer or people in my personal life.

I am learning that even though I have Asperger’s and as such have never been the most tactful individual, that subtlety goes hand in hand with honesty. For example, there is a SCIENCE to being forthright with your husband about infidelity...do not use words such as “mind-blowing” to describe how your foggy, depraved mind perceived the affair sex at the time. Because you will forever be haunted by those words.

I am learning that even though I never in a million years thought I would do something like this, I am more than just a despicable act. I am my father’s daughter. I am my son’s mother. I am Mrs. Life - the proud wife of an amazing man who has chosen to forgive me.

And (THE GOOD NEWS I PROMISED!) I am moving back home tomorrow. My husband said it’s time. After three long months away from home, after a year of nightmares and heartache since D Day. We are stepping, in faith together, onto the journey to begin R.

Please, don’t give up hope. Some of you will D. Some of you will R. There’s no shame in either path. But just know it gets better. It won’t always be like this. I can promise you that. A better life awaits, for you, if you fight for it. Don’t give up on YOU. Your future self needs you to stay in the fight.

Thankfully, hubby and I are in R. Joined SI in 2017 and left this site per DH’s request in mid-May 2018; be blessed everyone!
-Mrs. Life

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Cephastion ( member #51990) posted at 1:08 AM on Sunday, March 18th, 2018

Tears...

BH-me / WW-(Pyrite)
Left Thanksgiving 2019 w/ unresolved childhood trauma and other general selfishness issues that she refuses to honestly address, resolve,& heal from.--"For where your wealth/treasure is, there will your heart be also."--Yeshua

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Drumstick ( member #55013) posted at 1:38 AM on Sunday, March 18th, 2018

👏👏👏, ASCL. 👏👏👏

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence - John Adams

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WilliamM ( member #60910) posted at 1:45 AM on Sunday, March 18th, 2018

All I can say is God is good.

All things are possible.

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GoldenR ( member #54778) posted at 4:48 AM on Sunday, March 18th, 2018

Great post, ASCL!

I don't remember you ever posting here about telling your BH "ILYBINILWY".

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HardenMyHeart ( member #15902) posted at 5:26 AM on Sunday, March 18th, 2018

ASCL, So happy for you! Best wishes for a happy future to you and your family.

Me: BH, Her: WW, Married 40 years, Reconciled

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Want2BHappyAgain ( member #45088) posted at 5:32 AM on Sunday, March 18th, 2018

How WONDERFUL . What a great GIFT you two are giving each other .

A "perfect marriage" is just two imperfect people who refuse to give up on each other.

With God ALL things are possible (Matthew 19:26)

I AM happy again...It CAN happen!!!

From respect comes great love...sassylee

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