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Wayward Side :
The process of discovering our true "Why's"

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leafields ( Guide #63517) posted at 4:10 PM on Wednesday, May 29th, 2024

Bump.

BW M 34years, Dday 1: March 2018, Dday 2: August 2019, D final 2/25/21

posts: 3987   ·   registered: Apr. 21st, 2018   ·   location: Washington State
id 8838115
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leafields ( Guide #63517) posted at 3:57 AM on Saturday, October 5th, 2024

Bump

BW M 34years, Dday 1: March 2018, Dday 2: August 2019, D final 2/25/21

posts: 3987   ·   registered: Apr. 21st, 2018   ·   location: Washington State
id 8850279
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Bulcy ( member #74034) posted at 4:46 PM on Tuesday, October 22nd, 2024

Bumping for the new guys and as a reminder to me

WH (50's)

Multiple sexual, emotional and online affairs. Financial infidelity and emotional abuse. Physical abuse and intimidation.

D-days 2003, 2017, multiple d-days and TT through 2018 to 2023. 28 years of destructive and health damaging choice

posts: 375   ·   registered: Mar. 12th, 2020   ·   location: UK
id 8851848
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PHFA ( new member #85184) posted at 12:28 AM on Sunday, November 24th, 2024

I’ve been delaying writing my story. I’m usually good with words as my job requires it. With this, though, i feel it will be very hard to get it down. Bottom line, I’ve been horrible to my BS for soooo long that I don’t see why she should be with me…other than the one thing she tells me…she loves me still. D-Day was 3/13/24. Since that time, I’ve made minimal progress whereas she has done so much to help herself and me. Sure, we’ve had some good times during these months but I wind up creating a crisis that destroys all progress I/we made and she is left, in pain, hurt again by me. What I have done is show her, in many different ways, that I am not committed to her. I say I am but my actions have shown her the opposite. We are currently in a trial-run period of living separately (counselor-suggested) so we can heal ourselves. Even in this circumstance, where we are so close, to D, I’ve lied to her about something stupid just last week. That comes on the heels of me hiding an EA from her even after she begged me to come clean in my disclosure. I didn’t.

Let me give some back story for some context of how horrible I’ve been. We’ve been married for 33 years. Four years into our marriage, with one child here and the 2nd imminently coming, I got flirty with a staff member where i worked. At first it was banter that I liked. I eventually shared with this woman that I thought she was attractive. She liked that and I saw an opening and pushed. We became physical and she was my first PA. It lasted about 7-8 months. We were outed by a co-worker but the boss squelched it. The woman moved on. Even gone from the workplace, we hooked up a few more times before it ended.

Within 5-6 months, I met someone else. Not in the workplace but someone I came across through work. It got physical and she became PA #2. That lasted for 5-6 month until she moved on with the man who she eventually married.

After PA #2, I discovered porn as a masturbation aid. Even though I knew she wouldn’t approve, I did it anyway and lied to her about that. I was more tech-savvy and she trusted me. She’d ask me (and warn me) to my face if I was doing porn and I’d say no…repeatedly. Even after getting caught with when I left it open on my iPad, and getting thrown out of the house for a week, i stopped for only 3-4 months but went back to it. I used porn secretly until D-Day. I came clean about that when confronted. It has lost its appeal though I still get occasional urges (as has masturbation).

Sorry this is so long but I’m not done. In 2018, I began an EA with another worker in my office. That became a PA when we had 2-3 sexual encounters. She was a "work friend" that i did not hide at the office. I hid her from my BS but co-workers could tell i favored this woman. She ended things and left the office in 2022. I lied to my wife (by not telling her any of this) even when confronted.

When the PA ended with my co-worker, I had a one-time PA with someone I met at a store I’d frequent in 2019. We flirted and bonded over sports. I commented how attractive she was, she’d reciprocate and I’d push on that attention until we had sex after closing once. We’d text a lot (including pics she’d send me of her; I’d reciprocate sometimes too). So, it became an EA too. While that was the last PA i had, there were 4 more EAs.

I was discovered when I left texts on my phone. I’d been communicating with someone before and over Covid for 5 years. My BS had no clue as I had everyone fooled. As DaddyDom said, I would seek attention from women to make me feel good. I’d strive to be their hero and help them so they would give me positive me attention and "affection". All this was at the expense of my loyal, supporting BS.

I disclosed much of this too her so incorrectly with no counselor on hand. She would ask and, finally, i caved and told her much more than she ever thought existed. She is devastated and unable to get past the fact that my acting out began when, theoretically, there was no reason. We had it all. We were happy…clearly I wasn’t or I wouldn’t have done what I did. I recognize I’m an SA after so many years of infidelity, porn use, and EAs. I’m in group for that. I just started with a different IC and we are in marriage counseling too.

Bottom line, my R has been horribly destructive as i have lied to her and have had a difficult time putting her first (even horribly so yesterday). We are living apart and she sees no commitment. I’ve made some strides in my behaviors but have floored her too often with crisis after crisis. I really want to find out the WHYs but I don’t know how. I read this post and every reply and need to go back to #1 and read DaddyDom’s instructions again. I don’t have a wonderful memory of my childhood (maybe because nothing really stood out) as I too feel that i am the cause of this and the my childhood was great and had nothing to do with it.

I read the post where DaddyDom said to just post here on this board…I’m starting with this thread. I need to put her first always and have failed to do so. It’s like I’m so out of practice doing that that my brain goes back to what i normally do without thought. Yesterday, i hurt her again. I hope I can figure out my Why b/c she really needs to know why this happened…why i thought it was ok to do this at all.

I think i rambled but i am anxious to start working on my Whys.

me/WH-57
married 33 years
Dday 3/13/24
Together but struggling

posts: 5   ·   registered: Sep. 5th, 2024
id 8854676
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leafields ( Guide #63517) posted at 1:04 AM on Sunday, November 24th, 2024

Hi PHFA -

You may want to start your own, separate thread. This one is usually just "bumped" to keep it at the top of the page for people to find. Also, you can add a stop sign so that only WS (wayward spouses) will respond.

The Healing Library is at the top of the page, and has a lot of information. There are a couple of posts pinned to the top that are really good for newbies. I'm a BW (betrayed wife), so I don't spend much time in the Wayward forum.

I recommend reading How To Help Your Spouse Heal From Your Affair by Linda MacDonald. Another good resource is Not Just Friends by Dr. Shirley Glass.

BW M 34years, Dday 1: March 2018, Dday 2: August 2019, D final 2/25/21

posts: 3987   ·   registered: Apr. 21st, 2018   ·   location: Washington State
id 8854678
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PHFA ( new member #85184) posted at 1:20 AM on Sunday, November 24th, 2024

Thanks, leafields. I’ve been hanging around this site for awhile but only now decided to post after reading this thread. I don’t disagree with you about posting my own thread. I’ve enjoyed this thread in particular and hoped it would garner responses from DaddyDom. I’ve read Linda MacDonald’s book and Out of the Doghouse by Robert Weiss (along with my group and Help Her Heal workbook too).

I need to get to my why. I’ll start my own thread. Thanks for taking the time to post me.

me/WH-57
married 33 years
Dday 3/13/24
Together but struggling

posts: 5   ·   registered: Sep. 5th, 2024
id 8854679
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leafields ( Guide #63517) posted at 12:35 AM on Tuesday, December 10th, 2024

Bump.

BW M 34years, Dday 1: March 2018, Dday 2: August 2019, D final 2/25/21

posts: 3987   ·   registered: Apr. 21st, 2018   ·   location: Washington State
id 8855967
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