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Kidney Stones - Any experiences?

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 truthsetmefree (original poster member #7168) posted at 2:55 AM on Tuesday, March 22nd, 2022

I think I’ve got another stone…all the characteristics just not officially diagnosed. Every previous time it has landed me immediately in the hospital…so I don’t have any actual experience with *passing* one (surgical removal - always get stuck in ureters).

So far I’m able to manage the pain of this one at home. Fingers crossed because I have really crappy health insurance right now. I had one really bad night…but it’s been manageable since then. Now more colicky and just a whole lot of pressure.

Any advice to maybe speed this along (other than pounding the water)? Any experiences that you can share to maybe help me figure out where I am in the process?

As always guys - thank you! ❤️

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ArkLaMiss ( member #14918) posted at 3:14 AM on Tuesday, March 22nd, 2022

I CURRENTLY am experiencing them, but had a huge one and had it lasered last week and they put in a stent. I've been drinking 6 16 ounce bottles of water a day. Also, they put me on Flomax which can help you to pass them.

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Just HOW stupid do you think I am, exactly?

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 truthsetmefree (original poster member #7168) posted at 3:40 AM on Tuesday, March 22nd, 2022

I’m sorry to hear you are currently dealing with this, ArkLaMiss!

I have no experience with having to laser a stone. Do you still have to pass them as "stones" - or are they basically obliterated? IOW - I guess I’m asking if you actually still feel them as they pass. And if so, what has been your experience?

I hate to do the whole hospital/doctor/tests stuff if they’re just going to send me home to pass them. The prior times I had no choice because I couldn’t manage the pain at home - and they also kept me hospitalized.

Hope has two beautiful daughters; their names are Anger and Courage. Anger at the way things are, and Courage to see that they do not remain as they are. ~ Augustine of Hippo

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Superesse ( member #60731) posted at 4:14 AM on Tuesday, March 22nd, 2022

Hi Truth, yes unfortunately I have seen the kidney stone drama with my WH 3 times.

Here's what helped him the first time he suffered an attack: a Palestinian woman told me to have him drink a big slug of olive oil! She said that was the traditional medicine in her country for thousands of years. The oil lubricates the ureters, I guess. She told me that her brother had been in the hospital awaiting surgery when she brought a little jar into his room; he drank it at her insistence and 2 hours later, still waiting for the surgeon, he passed it! Such a story, so I fixed the poor man a big lettuce salad and poured a lot of olive oil and a little vinegar on it and Voila! He passed the offending stone 2 hours later, after 3 or 4 days of pain! I thought that was amazing.

However, a few years later he had another attack and that time, they tried ultrasound in a water bath at the hospital; but due to his large abdomen (340 pounds) the ultrasound couldn't "bounce" off the kidney so they had to use a more aggressive shock wave treatment. While it blasted the stone into passable little pieces, it actually did a little damage to the wall of his kidney at the opening of the ureter. Nothing serious, but the scar was noticed on the next Xray, which happened...

10 years later, when he had "grown" another stone too large to try and pass (9 mm). This last time, he had one day of pain, then it seemed to "back out" of the funnel area leading to the tube, and must just be sitting there in his kidney. I think it's doing some damage to that kidney due to backing up of urine from time to time. Still waiting on urologists and openings....

By the way, a good tip he ignored was offered by the nurse after the 2nd attack. She advised him to drink a little lemon juice every day, but he soon quit that ritual, so here we are again. His stone was calcium oxalate, as many of them are. And important to avoid dehyrdation!

Are you sure it isn't an infection, though?

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 truthsetmefree (original poster member #7168) posted at 4:27 AM on Tuesday, March 22nd, 2022

Are you sure it isn't an infection, though?

No… I’m not sure. Ideally, I need to see a doctor. But the pain I had on that bad night was just so typical of a kidney stone…the way it starts in the kidney area in the back and then radiates to the groin - all on one side. The pressure that I now feel has come subsequent to that night - which seems like that happens once the stone enters the bladder (from what I’ve read anyway.)

I do drink a ton of water…I’m known to carry a water bottle with me everywhere. I also add lemon to my water daily (they had told me that too!). I’ve been stone free for over 10 yrs doing that.

I’ve read the olive oil treatment on several sites. I’ve been a little afraid to do that since I’ve had vomiting and nausea. But I think I may do that with a salad tomorrow. I’ll let you know if that has any success!

Hope has two beautiful daughters; their names are Anger and Courage. Anger at the way things are, and Courage to see that they do not remain as they are. ~ Augustine of Hippo

Funny thing, I quit being broken when I quit letting people break me.

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Superesse ( member #60731) posted at 5:07 AM on Tuesday, March 22nd, 2022

Truth, you have had stones before so you know the sensations, I only know what my WH described. If you have no fever and no odor in the urine, then I'd guess it's not infection? (Not a health care pro.) I would think the pressure sensation is when a stone is passing down the tube to the bladder. Does lying on one side or the other make a difference? Hope this passes, pardon the pun.

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