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beenthereinco ( member #56409) posted at 2:58 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2019
If she passed then it would seem there has to be some trauma somewhere in her past. I am sorry for that, truly. I hope that the two of you can find peace and happiness whether that is together or apart.
DoinBettr ( member #71209) posted at 3:44 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2019
I am glad you are committed to reconciling. You should start posting in there.
Lots of different wisdom in there.
Maybe come back to this page to help some others in a couple of months.
Start working out more and watch her for queues to fix this situation. I am going to say you should make it far easier for you to look in on where she is.
It will give you peace of mind.
Glad she isn't as much of a monster as we thought. Still, something is wrong with her. She needs to work on that.
How can someone lie so effectively to themselves that they forget entirely?
Lastly, she owes you the first couple of years of marriage times 100. Make sure she doesn't try to rug sweep this.
Maybe say she needs a first time she realized she loved you anniversary? She celebrates you 1 extra day every year. Mark it on a calendar and come back to it every year. Maybe make a tradition for it. Building new memories and events like this after the damage is what everyone talks about as the biggest part of reconciling.
66charger ( member #69471) posted at 3:52 PM on Wednesday, August 21st, 2019
SD I think you need to focus on yourself for a little while. Get that work situation under control. Look outside the marriage and become a better version of yourself.
Strength and Honor brother. You have both.
[This message edited by 66charger at 9:53 AM, August 21st (Wednesday)]
Scoobydoo ( member #70007) posted at 11:19 AM on Thursday, August 22nd, 2019
Hey SD,
Im glad you found some of the answers you so desperately needed.
I’m hopeful for you in this very shitty situation,
Stay strong & true to your self
Good luck SD
Toooo many Dday's over 27 yrs,
Separated from Scooby 'Dum' 19/08/2019
Before you diagnose yourself with depression, or low self esteem,
First make sure you are not surrounded by an Asshole/s.
SaddestDad (original poster member #69800) posted at 3:03 PM on Thursday, August 22nd, 2019
Thank you all for your support throughout.
I'm going to keep posting the journey's updates here in this thread, while specific anecdotes or epiphanies will be in the Reconciliation and/or General forums.
Life is a wheel. Sooner or later everything you'd left behind comes around again. For good or ill, it comes around again.
For what profit is to a man if he gains the world but loses his own soul?
BH 32
WW 34 Change4thebetter
Working hard
SorrowfulMoon ( member #59925) posted at 2:09 AM on Friday, August 23rd, 2019
Greatest good luck for the future SD; you deserve it in buckets.
Updates would be much appreciated by everyone I'm sure, so thanks for that.
SaddestDad (original poster member #69800) posted at 3:02 PM on Monday, August 26th, 2019
This past week wasn't too bad, all things considered (so soon past Final DDay).
I spent almost 3 hours kayaking on my own. That was truly peaceful and breathtaking.
Would've been a solid day, had it not darkened me once I realized where it was located and what it could have meant... doesn't matter. Water under the bridge (actually boated under the bridge too, so pun intended).
Went to the gym.
Meditated a lot.
Woke up every morning to spend time with the kids. I'd buckle them into their carseats after making breakfast for us all. She'd drive them to camp with me following in my car. We'd then stop off for coffee, chat & sip a bit.
Evenings were each spent as date nights.
There were only one or two A-related arguments throughout.
Went to MC on Friday.
WW invited me to go with her to DMV to finally change her last name (she got her new SS card in mail last week). That was quite cathartic.
I still have this week off. WW just suggested to me that I make it totally about me - forget about her and the kids and just do everything in my power to make the most/best of the week since my boss told me I need to be back at work next week.
So I'm putting together a bucket list for this week. Let's see how it goes!
Life is a wheel. Sooner or later everything you'd left behind comes around again. For good or ill, it comes around again.
For what profit is to a man if he gains the world but loses his own soul?
BH 32
WW 34 Change4thebetter
Working hard
NotSureAboutIt ( member #69836) posted at 5:44 PM on Monday, August 26th, 2019
SD - Hang in there. Just curious - she changed her name back to her maiden name, or finally changed it to your last name?
SaddestDad (original poster member #69800) posted at 6:48 PM on Monday, August 26th, 2019
she changed her name back to her maiden name, or finally changed it to your last name?
Finally changed to my last name.
Life is a wheel. Sooner or later everything you'd left behind comes around again. For good or ill, it comes around again.
For what profit is to a man if he gains the world but loses his own soul?
BH 32
WW 34 Change4thebetter
Working hard
SaddestDad (original poster member #69800) posted at 10:38 PM on Wednesday, January 8th, 2020
It's coming up to a year since DDay #1, my head has been going to dark places once again. I got into detective mode again (I just needed to figure out what was gnawing at my brain). Although I couldn't put my finger on it, something was off. Has always been off, even after I had decided that the blanks and I will just need to learn to coexist...
Because of how well things have been seemingly going between the two of us, WW has become noncommittal/lackadaisical in terms of doing the work. She was happy to see life continue to play out, and was happy knowing I wasn't bombarding her for more information & for her to get down to the crux of filling in the blanks so that I wouldn't have to let my logic/imagination do so.
Long story short, although I'm not considering this to be a DDay because the information she provided was provided voluntarily (ie she COULD have pretended no memory surfaced, wouldn't have been the first time) it's been rough for me.
Remember the POS that she had a ONS with on the day we were looking at engagement rings? Yeah... apparently, it wasn't a ONS. Nor was it limited to when we were dating. One time was IN THE FUCKING ELEVATOR AT WORK!!
Well, back to the drawing board... I can't live like this. The constant pain & rollercoaster is killing me. I haven't eaten in almost 3 days because I just can't.
Although this may not be DDay #6... it sure as shit feels like it is.
Do I give her credit for growing a pair and telling me the truth when she didn't have to? Yeah, I do.
Do I hate the fact that it means that she had 2 full-fledged PA's simultaneously during such a stage in our life together? I'd be a fucking tool not to.
I hate more, however, how broken I feel on a bad day... and how much I wish I could be the ignorant and innocent dipshit that was unknowingly bamboozled to begin with.
Life is a wheel. Sooner or later everything you'd left behind comes around again. For good or ill, it comes around again.
For what profit is to a man if he gains the world but loses his own soul?
BH 32
WW 34 Change4thebetter
Working hard
ShatteredSakura ( member #70885) posted at 10:47 PM on Wednesday, January 8th, 2020
(((SaddestDad)))
2 full PAs while shopping for engagement rings? Oh god
SaddestDad (original poster member #69800) posted at 10:53 PM on Wednesday, January 8th, 2020
ShatteredSakura, yeah. Feel free to read the summarized story on my profile so you don't have ro destroy your eyes for the night.
Life is a wheel. Sooner or later everything you'd left behind comes around again. For good or ill, it comes around again.
For what profit is to a man if he gains the world but loses his own soul?
BH 32
WW 34 Change4thebetter
Working hard
Sanibelredfish ( member #56748) posted at 11:03 PM on Wednesday, January 8th, 2020
Finally changed to my last name.
Lucky you, SD. Lucky you...
I think you’re a good person. You’re not perfect, but no one is. That said, you deserve so much better than you get from your W. I wish you believed that too.
Also, when your W “remembers” things they tend to be pretty big. A cynic might say her episodic memory is a convenient tool to control the outcome of her infidelities and perhaps get you to stop asking questions (i.e., if he burns himself on the stove maybe he’ll stop touching it). Just my two cents.
SaddestDad (original poster member #69800) posted at 11:11 PM on Wednesday, January 8th, 2020
Also, when your W “remembers” things they tend to be pretty big.
Agreed, Sanibel. The biggest mindfuck is the fact that if it weren't something big, her mind wouldn't have blocked it out to begin with, so when it's something she has to push and shove to finally squeeze out, it ain't the size of a jellybean.
That said, you deserve so much better than you get from your W. I wish you believed that too.
I do believe it... but I do also see how much better she has been toward me ever since she actually started focusing on being a totally different person.
I know I'm not perfect, and I know she's far from perfect... but other than this most recent debacle, things really have been going phenomenally on all fronts other than me being stuck in a shitty and miserable job.
Irony.
Life is a wheel. Sooner or later everything you'd left behind comes around again. For good or ill, it comes around again.
For what profit is to a man if he gains the world but loses his own soul?
BH 32
WW 34 Change4thebetter
Working hard
Rustylife ( member #65917) posted at 11:16 PM on Wednesday, January 8th, 2020
You guys had a really short courtship before marriage. Pretty insane how much cheating she was able to squeeze in during this time period.
I hope your job and health situation is well bro. Haven't seen you around for 6 months or so.
Me:BH,28 on Dday
Her:XWW,27 on Dday
Dday: Dec 2016, Separated in Nov'16
Together 8 years, Married for 3
8 month EA/PA with COW at Dday
No remorse, Unapologetic. Divorced her.
SaddestDad (original poster member #69800) posted at 11:22 PM on Wednesday, January 8th, 2020
Hey Rusty, great to see you.
Health has been good. Job has been shitty, but I'm riding it out while I figure out a better opportunity or two.
Yeah... she's always been very good at coordinating schedules
In secular terms, it was a short courtship, bit in our culture... it was standard MO/borderline-long.
Life is a wheel. Sooner or later everything you'd left behind comes around again. For good or ill, it comes around again.
For what profit is to a man if he gains the world but loses his own soul?
BH 32
WW 34 Change4thebetter
Working hard
ShatteredSakura ( member #70885) posted at 3:54 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2020
Oh yeah, I read the summary and probably parts of this thread a while back. Still is shocking.
it was standard MO/borderline-long.
Guess she couldn't wait
[This message edited by ShatteredSakura at 9:55 PM, January 8th (Wednesday)]
ohsospecial ( member #72054) posted at 4:57 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2020
I don’t think it matters if the information was voluntarily supplied or not. DDay means Discovery, right? It was indeed DD #6. I’m sorry she has not been forthcoming. And I think you know that this relationship is not healthy for you. i hope you don’t waste another year or two or ten on trying to make it work.
https://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp?tid=642616
BigBlueEyes ( member #71441) posted at 10:32 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2020
I’m in agreement DD is a new Discovery Day,
Damn, SD I’m so sorry for you,
You know the drill, try & eat little bits even though you don’t feel like it, get out & walk a little, get some fresh air & space, please take care of yourself,
Remember take what you need & leave the rest behind.
Thinking of you (((((hugs))))))
^^^^(half assed 1 armed bro hug)
Me- BW, 47
Multi Dday's,
DB A's x 2 BFF
Multi ONS's, Online shit.
Serial cheat, Abuser,
D 18.02.20
Stay strong, just because it’s hard today, doesn’t mean that next week it won’t get easier!!
jb3199 ( member #27673) posted at 10:55 AM on Thursday, January 9th, 2020
Because of how well things have been seemingly going between the two of us, WW has become noncommittal/lackadaisical in terms of doing the work. She was happy to see life continue to play out, and was happy knowing I wasn't bombarding her for more information & for her to get down to the crux of filling in the blanks so that I wouldn't have to let my logic/imagination do so.
In your update, this is what worries me most. She still has so much unpacking to do......TONS OF IT......and her ease of ignoring this will keep her as unsafe as she was when she was hitting you with admission after to admission. Things may be going great for her right now, but unless she gets her ass in gear, both of your situations may wind up cataclysmic in the future.
I had a D-day THREE YEARS after my prior D-day. Things were going well for us too during that time, but my WW wasn't putting in the hard work.
At least I thought things were going well during that time.....
BH-50s
WW-50s
2 boys
Married over 30yrs.
All work and no play has just cost me my wife--Gary PuckettD-Day(s): EnoughAccepting that I can/may end this marriage 7/2/14
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