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 wantstorepair (original poster member #32598) posted at 7:54 PM on Monday, January 16th, 2023

Hoping to hear people's thoughts and techniques for developing and maintaining personal accountability (in all aspects of your life) after you have cheated and lied, and are working on being a better person. Thanks in advance for sharing.

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hikingout ( member #59504) posted at 4:04 AM on Tuesday, January 17th, 2023

Accountability is about values and prioritizing those values.

Basically if it’s important to you, then you will do it and be consistent.

So it may help to write down what you want to achieve and why. Be very specific about the why. Write down in what ways it will benefit YOU.

We don’t change to please someone else. We change because the pain of not changing is greater than the change itself. Change is selfish.

Don’t do too many at once. Make a list and prioritize those things. Don’t go to the next thing in your list until you have the one you are working in integrated.

Be patient with yourself. Monitor your self talk. If you fail, don’t just quit, go back and read what you wrote and why it was important to you. Think about what caused the failure.

For me, mindfulness and meditation helped me modify my thoughts. Everything comes down to what we think and how much we believe the story we are telling ourselves. Thoughts are often not true. Find better replacements. It takes presence, being in the moment to really see them. We tend to stay in a state of distraction.

I also found it helpful to start my day with 10-15 minutes of gratitude and setting intentions for the day that contributed to my goal. Good luck.

7 years of hard work - WS and BS - Reconciled

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DaddyDom ( member #56960) posted at 6:00 PM on Tuesday, January 17th, 2023

I think it's important to define what accountability means to ourselves, and who it is for. After infidelity, many couples often set rules and conditions that are supposed to address the WS's lack of accountability and to provide a system that monitors and measures accountability in quantifiable terms. For example, the WS may hand over all their passwords to social media, install Life360 on their phones, check-in several times a day, and so on. All of these things are intended to provide some reassurance to the BS that the WS is indeed "where they said they would be and doing what they are supposed to be doing", but in all honesty, it's not all that helpful.

There isn't a BS alive won't immediately point out the obvious... which is that the WS can easily skirt any of these "accountability" efforts if they want to. They'll hand over all the social media accounts that you know of, but not the ones they still chat up their AP with. They'll leave their tracked phone at home and use a burner phone with the AP. Where there is a will, there is a way. Accountability by force is an illusion.

Accountability is what you do when other people aren't looking.

For me, accountability started with honesty. I made a pact with myself, for myself, to be as honest as possible about everything, every day. I also gave myself permission to fail and fuck up however. I did that, because I knew that if I put too much pressure on myself to be perfect from day one, I'd never make it. So every day, I did my best to just be honest about everything as often as I could, and just as importantly, I made a very focused effort to try and catch myself in my own lies, because it was so damn natural to me that I did it almost automatically. This extended to everything in my life. If I didn't get a work assignment done on time, I made an effort to just "own it" rather than making some lame excuse. If I ate the last cookie in the package, I said so. If I told a previous lie, I corrected it. When I screwed up, rather than get mad, I got observational. What was it I lied about? Why did I feel I needed to lie? How do I feel about myself knowing that I lied? What did it get me? How could it complicate things in the future? What would have been the outcome if I had told the truth?

Ultimately, telling the truth started to become its own reward. I noticed right away that, while it was sometimes hard to throw myself under the bus and admit that I had done something wrong, it got easier and easier to do so over time. Not only that, but the WEIGHT of the lies started to go away. In fact, I started to take pride and comfort in my own ability to tell the truth. I slept better at night. I never had remember what I "said" happened. Things I fucked up previously were rectified. And the most surprising thing of all (to me anyway) was that people actually APPRECIATED hearing me admit my mistakes. Taking ownership of my fuckups actually made people trust and respect me MORE, rather than seeing me as the consummate fuckup, which is what I always had pictured in my mind.

For me, the motivation to be more accountable came directly from how I felt about myself and the positive outcomes I experienced from being accountable in the first place. For my spouse, it became easier over time to believe and trust me as well, because she saw me take ownership of everything, even the things that didn't make me look good, or when I could just as easily have said nothing at all. With time and consistency, she saw the change in my behavior and thinking, she saw how I responded calmly to things that used to make me defensive, and that led to changes in my actions and in my ability to see her as well. One of the unadvertised advantages of being accountable is that it helps to remove the focus from ourselves, which in turn allows us to have empathy and concern for others.

Me: WS
BS: ISurvivedSoFar
D-Day Nov '16
Status: Reconciling
"I am floored by the amount of grace and love she has shown me in choosing to stay and fight for our marriage. I took everything from her, and yet she chose to forgive me."

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emergent8 ( Guide #58189) posted at 7:11 PM on Tuesday, January 17th, 2023

And the most surprising thing of all (to me anyway) was that people actually APPRECIATED hearing me admit my mistakes. Taking ownership of my fuckups actually made people trust and respect me MORE, rather than seeing me as the consummate fuckup, which is what I always had pictured in my mind.

This times a million. More than any other thing, watching this change occur, even over small things seemingly unrelated to infidelity, helped me believe the change I thought I was seeing was real, and (slowly, steadily) build back trust.

Me: BS. Him: WS.
D-Day: Feb 2017 (8 m PA with married COW).
Happily reconciled.

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