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 ibonnie (original poster member #62673) posted at 10:24 PM on Monday, March 6th, 2023

Listen... I know it's cheesy reality TV, and the people on this show are hot messes with too many storylines involving infidelity im general, so I can understand why it might be a show many (especially on here) avoid.

However... if anyone on here does watch (or is just a Bravoholic in general), then you're aware to some degree what's going on right now.

I am completely shocked about the Ariana/Tom/Raquel drama right now. I'm so used to the norm of cheaters being painted as star-crossed lovers, as betrayed partners being guilty of not meeting relationship/partner needs, or like, whoops! The cheater made a mistake. barf NOT IN THIS CASE!!

I'm sorry she's going through this, but kind of loving all the posts and articles rallying behind Ariana, and all the posts and articles completely excoriating Tom & Raquel for their affair, and cutting them absolutely zero slack for their shitty choice to betray Ariana.

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emergent8 ( member #58189) posted at 11:34 PM on Monday, March 6th, 2023

Omg yes. I cannot say I've ever actually watched another Bravo show but a friend got me absolutely HOOKED on VPR many years ago and I will unapologetically say it's the best reality tv show out there.

I haven't had a chance to deep dive into the latest drama but I've heard the basics, and I can't say I'm all THAT surprised. Tom is absolutely an unrepentant cheater douche. He cheated on Kristen (did he also kiss Ariana back then too or am I misremembering that?) and all of his best friends are cheaters too. The amount of binge drinking that group does was embarassing back when they were in their early 20s and is pathetic now that Tom is 40ish. Real mid-life crisis energy from that one.

I've always liked Ariana. She has always seemed like the most well-adjusted of the lot. I don't know what she saw in that guy. I cannot imagine having to go through this absolute horror show this publicly.

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Revenger ( member #80445) posted at 2:56 AM on Tuesday, March 7th, 2023

Never be ashamed of watching VPR!!!

And yes, I couldn't be more shocked by the cheating or more triggered by the "apology." ("hey, don't make my business suffer for this, guys.")

But I have to say, you lose em how you get em--and that applies to Ariana too. A line was crossed way back when and Ariana obviously never held Tom's feet to the fire and made him figure out the flaws that caused him to cheat on Kristen... with her. Why would she? The cheating benefitted her; she rewarded his cheating.

I love Lala going hard for her friend, and it'll make some great tv, but ultimately, practically every single cast member is/was a wayward or an AP, so it's all hypocrisy. And there's absolutely no introspection. No one is saying, oh, so this is how that feels. I know I'm asking too much from reality show stars, but it still angers me that people constantly cast themselves as the victims when they are the ones hurting others.

Anyway, can't wait for the reunion!

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PlanNine ( member #46311) posted at 11:18 PM on Tuesday, March 7th, 2023

During the brief period my wife watched it a few years ago, I found that show to be chock full of the most punchable humans to ever (dis)grace our planet. Seems like that hasn't changed in the meantime.

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