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WoodThrush2 ( member #85057) posted at 8:31 PM on Friday, January 9th, 2026

Thanks for writing back Broken. I understand what you are saying. When you say you know she be coming home to you....that is a pretty low bar. Set it higher.

Don't share her. Consider yourself worth her loyalty. Boundaries are so very important.

I really am concerned for you in that you fear confronting her when she is doing wrong to you. That is very, very unhealthy. And it really does her no favor either. She needs to develop as a person. She needs to be led into virtue....not being a lier and deceiver. Not being a cheater. You not confronting her is enabling her to continue those behaviors.

You might want to look up codependence. I understand, we all need connection. That is built into us. But we really are designed for secure and loyal intimate connections. Not ones where you never know of your love is out loving another.


Again, please hold yourself in higher regard. Trust me, you DO NOT NEED HER, as much as you think you do. If you got healthy, and set your foundation on something more reliable, namely God first, then your inherent value a human based on your relationship to God....then you could start allowing yourself to chose and build a secure, exclusive, intimate relationship.

The more and longer you let her abuse you, the worse you will feel about yourself, and the smaller you will be in her estimation....even if she does not speak that. If you start holding yourself in higher value, worthy of respect and loyalty....then she must start seeing you that way....or she will have to move on to someone else she can control and abuse.

Do you really want to be with someone who will not show you respect and loyalty?

Please don't take this as offered with ill will. I care for you. I don't want to see you end up as some safety net and wipping boy for a women who really only cares for her own ego and validation.

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 Brokenthoughts (original poster new member #86884) posted at 10:33 PM on Saturday, January 10th, 2026

Ok so MAJOR update...

So one of her red lines has always been that she doesn't want me to read her journals. Even with this going on I respected that until this morning. I just couldn't help myself so I had a look, and BOY what I found...

First, there was nothing about an actual PA, BUT she basically wrote that she was in love with him and couldn't get him out of her mind. Just a few excerpts...

"I was asleep now I'm awake. OM just brings something out of me that is insanely magnetic"

"I love the way he looks at me like I belong to him. When we talk it's like the whole world disappears"

"I loved the way he confessed his feelings to me... He's the first guy to tell me that I'm the only one and that there's nobody else" - *OM has a GF btw

"He doesn't know how bad I want to be with him"

"I want us to celebrate every birthday and valentines day together. I want to vacation and go to my favorite places with him. I want to be the best version of myself again so that we can be together"

"He ignited a fire inside me so bad I feel crazy"

"I will be brave enough to work towards a futute [with OM] that will be amazing"

"I can't wait to eat food that he makes for us. I want to decorte our place together"

"I can't wait for us to have our first official date"

"He already likes me the way that I am but I want to be the absolute best for him"

"I want to go out on so many dates with him"

"I see so many possibilities for us. Him kissing me while we chill out on a random Saturday just crashing up.... Randomly sneaking up behind me just to hug and kiss me"

"I'm excited to see where life takes us"

"He's so attractive, I want to be with him on NYE, his birthday and Vday"

"I want to be with him all the time and it's driving me crazy"

"I wanted to be with him this NYE so bad. It felt like something was missing. All I could think about at midnight was him" *she was with me at midnight on NYE

"I'm so nervous, it's like I'm being consumed with thoughts of him, driven crazy with desire for all of his attention"

"I can't wait to see him again"

That's the last line. I had a confrontation with her when she woke up. I'll write about that in a minute, but this post wouild be too long and writing all that just made me sick to my stomach anyway.

The one silver lining is that I still don't think there was an actual PA, because if there was one, why would she write about all this other shit and not that? Not much of a silver lining, but it is what it is.

[This message edited by Brokenthoughts at 11:28 PM, Saturday, January 10th]

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Formerpeopleperson ( member #85478) posted at 11:11 PM on Saturday, January 10th, 2026

BT,

Read "Women’s Infidelity: Living In Limbo" by Michele Langley. She has a website you can download from. Two volumes; quick read.

I think you’ll find your gf in there.

Summary: When women leave the relationship, they seldom come back. Oh, she may continue to live with you, for kids, finances, security, reputation, etc., but not because she really wants to.

Maybe she’ll ultimately decide you’re the best she can do. Is that enough for you?

Best wishes.

It’s never too late to live happily ever after

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WoodThrush2 ( member #85057) posted at 12:41 AM on Sunday, January 11th, 2026

Friend, there is no silver lining with this, please. This is so deep and pervasive of a betrayal.

Please detach your heart now....and permanently.

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asc1226 ( member #75363) posted at 1:10 AM on Sunday, January 11th, 2026

Sorry she has crossed so many lines. I’d ask her why all of her crap is still at your place when her dreams are across town. I’d also give OM’s girlfriend a heads up.

I make edits, words is hard

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 Brokenthoughts (original poster new member #86884) posted at 1:25 AM on Sunday, January 11th, 2026

I had no plan after that. I was just sitting and stewing, with all kinds of thoughts racing through my head.

So she wakes up from sleeping on the couch to see me sitting on the stairs thinking. She asks me what's wrong and, at first I don't want to say anything, but she insists. So I ask if there's anything she wants to tell me. She says no and looks confused. I say "anything about a certain individual you that you may have had a lot more contact with than you previously let on? ... Like a lot more?". She says no and asks what I'm talking about. I tell her that I saw a text in her phone from one of her friends so I wanted to see what she wanted. I then scrolled up the convo and saw the two of them talking about another guy. She immediately cuts me off and says "so you went through my phone?". I just say yea. She says "so?" in an indifferent tone. I tell her that I read the thread with her and OM. Then I go over all the crazy texts and just keep saying "WHAT THE FUCK?!?". I didn't tell her about the journal yet because I want to see how forthcoming she is with me.

First she assures me that they're just friends. She says she didn't want to tell me any of the details about him the last time we spoke because she was "so taken aback" by the question in the first place that she panicked and didn't tell me because she "didn't want me to think anything". Then she starts saying that she started talking to him and confiding in him a lot more because I was "unavailable" and he was there to listen. I might be a lot of things in this relationship, but one thing I'm definitely not is "unavailable" in any way, especially if she has anything important to talk about. If anything I feel like I've been the one trying to get HER to talk more recently.

She then repeatedly reassures me that "nothing happened" between them. I eventually tell her that I believe her, which I actually do (physically at least) for reasons I've stated in my last few posts. But I still tell her that, in all the 17 years we've been together, I've never had this kind of a weird feeling about her and one of her male friends, of which she's had many. But I insisted that something felt "different" about this.

She says that she kind of knows what I mean. I then ask her what she would think if she found a text convo in my phone between me and another girl like that. She says "yea... I would spazz" (of which I have no doubt). She then admits to me that OM confessed that he had feelings for her, but that she "shut it down". I ask why she kept talking to him after she "shut it down" and she said that it was no big deal because "it's not the first time one of her guy friends has told her that he likes her" I told her that was true, but that this was the first time she didn't tell me about it after, and that she really didn't seem to be shutting anything down in this case.

She started reassuring me that nothing happened again, and that she only loves me and I'm the only one for her. It makes me want to puke because I know she's lying through her teeth at me. She tries to come over and comfort me, and my body almost leaned into it out of habit, but I didn't.

Then she starts yelling at me for going through her phone while I was asleep. She says "I offered to go through it with you right in front of me the last time we talked about this". She did say that, but it was obviously something she didn't really mean or want me to do. So I say "you said you had nothing to hide and I could look" She says "yea but you didn't trust me, so you looked at it while I was asleep" as if that makes a difference. Then she says that we could have gone through it together and she could have given me context (which I'm sure just means she could have made up a bullshit excuse for everything). So I say "it's right here, lets do it right now". Then she snatches the phone and says "no, permission revoked".

The conversation then goes around in circles for a little while until she says that she has to go to the office, but first she's gonna stop by the bar to get "fucked up", clearly implying that it was my fault she was doing so, adding "you've got me so fucked up right now".

She texts me a bunch of time from the bar, with a mixture of I'm sorries and "I can't believe you don't trust me" and "how do you think I can do something like that" type statements. The texts get more belligerent as she gets drunker and she starts reminding me of every shortcoming I have in the relationship. She also keeps pressing me on what prompted me to look in her phone, saying that she talked to her other friend who said she didn't say anything that would prompt me to look in the phone. She accuses me of lying (me? are you fucking serious right now?). I don't tell her anything.

She calls me from the office later, telling me that she's mad that I made her have to get drunk and look like a wreck in front of a client (pretty sure that was her choice). She then presses me again about what made me look in her phone because she says she knows I'm lying (which I am, but it's obv meant to uncover her lies). Then she asks me what else I've been snooping in since I felt like playing "Scooby Doo Detective". Then she asks "did you go through my journals?", then pauses and says "because all you'll find in there are things about how excited I am to grow and get into our next phase" It was all I could do to stop myself from rolling on the floor laughing at this point. We end the conversation there and promise to revisit it later.

That brings us up to date folks, and in case you ever wondered what gaslighting from a WS who is ALSO an alcoholic looks like, well, there you have it laugh . And yes, I am definitely comfortable using the WS term now, even though I might not have been before. Not exactly sure where I go from here, I'm thinking of giving her one last chance to confess fully before I spring the journal on her. I'm still processing wtf just happened so I really have no idea what to do after any of that. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

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WoodThrush2 ( member #85057) posted at 2:12 AM on Sunday, January 11th, 2026

One last chance for someone who is crazy about the other man and can't wait to xyz abc..with him???

Can I ask if you are addicted to drama? And I mean that seriously?

You will not have peace with this girl. You are her safety net. If you are OK with those dynamics, then to each his own.

But I think you are worth someone's exclusive attention and loyalty.

And honestly....if this guy is the only one she could truly be loyal to ...do you really want to get in the way?

You are hurting yourself by playing this game with her.

BTW, what job does she have that she can go to drunk and still perform? Just curious

[This message edited by WoodThrush2 at 2:13 AM, Sunday, January 11th]

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 Brokenthoughts (original poster new member #86884) posted at 2:15 AM on Sunday, January 11th, 2026

Lawyer, LMAO

And I get what you're saying but I'm just in a really hurt place with my head spinning. I'm just trying to do the best I can right now.

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WoodThrush2 ( member #85057) posted at 2:24 AM on Sunday, January 11th, 2026

Oh my...she is a lawyer...yikes.

I know you are hurt...dude this is life changing. My concern is that you learn that you can grow as a person and actually like a peaceful and secure relationship.

You have all the confession you need in her journal. Those thoughts were genuine and freely given (to herself).

BELIEVE HER!!!!

I know it is hard, you are attached and you want to do all you can to pressure her, guilt her, and plead with her to declare the reality that you are her real love. And you know what, under your pressure she will say that. She already has said that.

I am not against telling her you saw her journal. But I suggest only bringing that up once you are finally convinced to leave, just to let her know you know the truth. But you know what, maybe I am wrong. Maybe just leave. Hopefully othere will give you specific advice on that.

But I do know, you need to protect your heart...she is NOT safe for you.

[This message edited by WoodThrush2 at 2:25 AM, Sunday, January 11th]

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WB1340 ( member #85086) posted at 2:50 AM on Sunday, January 11th, 2026

After reading what you found in her journal I believe it's time to end the relationship. Ask yourself, will you ever feel secure? Will you ever think she is choosing you as number 1? Do you think you will ever believe she can be honest with you about anything?

I would bite the bullet and tell her you read her journal, you now understand that she wants him, and you are ending the relationship so she can be with him.

You deserve someone who wants YOU. Someone who will respect YOU and the RELATIONSHIP.

D-day April 4th 2024. WW was sexting with a married male coworker. Started R a week later, still ongoing...

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