Told the children
Today we told the children that we are divorcing. We went with the fairly standard script of 'we don't love each other any more, we will be living quite close by, we both love them'....etc. I haven't yet told them the real reason for the divorce - WH is adamant it won't do them any good. He also doesn't want to be the ;bad guy' because it's also my fault (!). I think it would be best to tell them some of it - obviously without the sordid details - because they have questions (they're 11 and 15, they're not young kids) and I also think it will come out eventually anyway.
I think we should tell them, once they've processed this first bit. He is adamant we shouldn't. I am nervous about going against his wishes because we are all still living together. It could get very difficult.
6 comments posted: Monday, May 29th, 2023
Everything still moving on towards 'the big D'
Afternoon, I haven't posted on here for a few weeks as there hasn't been that much to report. I've posted this in General as I don't know if I still qualify as JFO (DDay 2 was towards the end of March).
Progress is being made but slowly. I filed for divorce. I have had one meeting with a solicitor and I have a different one scheduled for this Friday then I will decide which to use. The first one was okay but I wasn't sure if we 'gelled' if that makes sense - there were a few things I felt he was talking me down on or trying to dissuade me from and I just want to run it past a different solicitor to see what they say. If that's the reality then fine and I will accept it but I don't want to be 12 months down the line and regretting that I didn't ask for something because I was talked out of it.
We have made some progress on financials. So far, WH is being worryingly reasonable. He started with a mindset of just divide everything 50:50 but I told him I needed more and that his capacity to borrow and future earnings are much higher than mine. I gave him a figure and he verbally agreed. He hasn't seen a lawyer yet so we'll see if he changes his tune. I won't back down because I could actually ask for more, although I don't really want to end up in court, We'll see what happens.
WH is being his usual slow and disorganised self. He has a brief (free) phone call with a solicitor on Friday but that won't go through any details.
I have got my pensions figures apart from one which is in progress. He has only just this weekend asked for his pensions numbers from two of his pensions but he has a third that he hasn't requested yet....honestly it's painful and I am prodding him along at every step.
We got the house valued and we have a couple more valuations this week (all organised by me). It is coming in approx £50k more than we estimated so that is good.
WH meanwhile still thinks he can buy me out, despite the house value going up and him paying me more....there is no way he can do it (and I don't honestly understand why he is so set on it - apart from being too lazy to move) but that's his business I suppose. It's just slow...he needs to speak to a mortgage advisor who will tell him he can't do it.
I am feeling fine and making plans although it's hard to do because nothing is firm yet. I still don't have a job for September so I need to sort that out.
The other worry is that the kids still don't know - we are telling them at the start of the half term break in three weeks time because exams will be finished then. I don't think they will take it well. I also don't know how they will feel about the 50:50 childcare arrangement. WH wants this and I have said I am willing to give it a go IF the kids are happy with it. If they aren't I will fight it. I have been keeping a log of his movements and in the past 22 days he has been away overnight or out in the evening 15 times so I do not know how he thinks he is going to manage it.
He is really in dreamland about a lot of things.
We did have a maddening conversation about telling the kids which turned into a blaming session. He feels that 'his truth is different to my truth' and that I made him feel 'trapped'. That's why he did it. I told him I am his wife not a dictatorial state and that he was free to leave any time if he felt trapped. And that he should have respectfully asked for a divorce NOT done this again. Interestingly, we've had the usual begging about wanting to stay together as well (apparently it's ME that has chosen 'this path', i.e. to divorce and thereby hurt the kids)so I can't have been that bad after all if he's prepared to stay and give it another try?
Anyway my conclusion from that was that there is no point talking to him further. We can get along fine generally, we are still living in the same house. I need to avoid these crazy-making chats at all costs, focus on business like discussions, get the money I need and then get out of here. As quickly as I can drag him through the process!
4 comments posted: Monday, May 8th, 2023
Anyone recently divorced in.the UK?
Hi, Wh and I have filed for divorce this week. We have done it through the new (2022) no-fault divorce route and filed it jointly online. He filled in his part yesterday.
So far so good.
Now the tricky bit - the finances. For assets such as the house and savings it is pretty straightforward - value them and split it. Likewise the child support because the government gives a formula for working out the minimum amount.
BUT when it comes to pensions, how did people calculate this? I have a reasonable pension but his will be more than mine. Do you need to get a solicitor involved at this point, or will the mediator help if we get one? Or if we ask for a Financial settlement does the court calculate it?
Have you taken a share of the pension and transferred it to your name, or offset it against other assets and netted them off?
Likewise, spousal support? Is there even such a thing? Again would the court calculate this?
Thank you in advance.
It is meant to be a new straightforward system but I have no clue what to do with these couple of things.
4 comments posted: Saturday, April 8th, 2023
Again 8 years later?
I think I just found out again after 8 years earlier on today, I posted a long message but it wouldn't let me, I'm not sure why. If this posts, I'll add more detail!
97 comments posted: Friday, April 7th, 2023
Just saying hi as I sent in the first online form for a divorce yesterday after catching WH for the second time on 25th March. I filled it in as a joint application, it's now gone to him to complete on his side. He will mess around right up to the deadline (he has two weeks to respond). All being well, it could be done in 6 months.
Next step is agreeing money and childcare. I don't think he'll be awkward over splitting our assets. I think it could get muddier over pensions and spousal support. Also childcare. He said yesterday he'd be happy with 50:50 but he's never here!!! He's always out. He has some nerve, he's left me alone with those kids for years.
6 comments posted: Wednesday, April 5th, 2023
Evidence of adultery - UK
Hi, I recently caught my OH cheating for the second time. 8 years ago we reconciled, this time I won't.
My question is - do I need clear irrefutable evidence of adultery to divorce on that basis in the UK? I don't have anything except what he's told me. He got a parking ticket in a hotel but he took that out of my hands and it vanished. I am trying to contact the parking company to get a copy but they're impossible to get hold of, no direct number etc.
If I file, he is the type of person who might deny it. He is very image conscious and won't want to be seen as the bad guy. But if he fights it it could get expensive.
Would. you still file citing adultery or go down a different route?
2 comments posted: Friday, March 31st, 2023
Why do I care about the details?
This weekend I had DDay 2. First time round, I literally fell apart for months. This time, I am calmer and still functioning.
Last time, it was a friend of ours and I needed EVERY detail of everything. We were trying to reconcile but I went over and over it constantly.
This time - I don't think I know the OW, at least that's what he said. I feel like I've mentally checked out and I don't need every single detail of everything. But I would still like to know how / when it started, and who she is.
He asked why do I care?
And it's a good question. But I am bothered. But why?
I think partly because I feel like I've been made a fool of again and I try to work out when he was with her, and what I thought he was doing. I hate that feeling. But what about the rest of it?
18 comments posted: Tuesday, March 28th, 2023
Sane New World - Taming the Mind (Ruby Wax)
I just finished this book, I like Ruby Wax anyway but I was interested to read her perspective on how she's dealt wither depression and breakdown.
It's really entertaining and easy to read, and gives a very clear explanation of the brain's structure and how different parts form different types of thinking - and how a 'crossed wire' between the different parts can give rise to problematic thinking.
She recommends mindfulness to deal with intrusive thoughts and so on - I am still struggling with this but will keep trying! I am wary of 'rugsweeping' and I know I need to work through my thoughts and feelings but I would also like to find a way to 'switch off' sometimes so that I can stop wallowing and actually get something done!
It doesn't specifically cover infidelity but did give me some food for thought.
0 comment posted: Tuesday, November 29th, 2016