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number4 posted 12/16/2020 12:43 PM

So glad to hear the two of you are at the top of the list! It must feel good to know that within a month, you will be free to come and go as you please!

hcsv posted 12/16/2020 18:12 PM

I am a nurse working in a medical office in a hospital. Hopefully I will get the vaccine by the end of next week.

HFSSC posted 12/16/2020 19:11 PM

We were informed today that our company has a contract with Walgreens and will have the Moderna vaccine. So we are not expecting it until early January.

I really need to get off social media. I swear Iím getting stupider just reading some of this horse shit.

Can yíall believe somebody called me a ďtypical ďinclusiveĒ libĒ?

wildbananas posted 12/17/2020 08:04 AM

"typical "inclusive" lib"

What does that even mean? People, man. laugh rolleyes

WornDown posted 12/17/2020 20:33 PM

WornDown - they are still trying to figure out what to do about people who got the placebo. Typically, they would be followed for 1-2 years (still in placebo group) to have a group for comparison to the vaxed group. However, it could be considered unethical to withhold an effective treatment from people who could benefit from it.

Yeah, well aware of the ethical debates.

It looks like they are unmasking us (a local woman who was in the program came out yesterday and said she was informed she was given the vaccine).

As a scientist, I also understand that we want to have data on all the possibilities.

Since I have antibodies that aren't supposed to show up if I got the vaccine (only the actual virus), it would be interesting to know how I fare "long term" whether I got the vaccine or not back in Sept/Oct.

That said, I'm in my late-40s. Am a healthcare worker and have a couple of co-morbidities. Do I want to roll the dice on my life, just to get a data point?

That will be a question I have to ask if/when I find out whether I was given the vaccine (and when my antibodies "run out" around the end of Jan).

Personally, I think everyone who can get the vaccine should get the vaccine. That's how we crush this thing out. Who cares about that data point. The whole objective is to stamp this virus out.

tushnurse posted 12/18/2020 07:17 AM

Since I have antibodies that aren't supposed to show up if I got the vaccine (only the actual virus), it would be interesting to know how I fare "long term" whether I got the vaccine or not back in Sept/Oct.

No you don't. Listen I am seeing more and more every day on the Nurses talk Corona page on FB that have got it for a second time. Heck we have a poster on this page that also has had it twice, and the second time was way worse. So I am willing to take the vaccine, vs natural immunity on this one.

When the Chicken pox vaccine came out I thought natural immunity was the way to go, because it's such a weird virus, and kids were having weird reactions, but once they got the kinks worked out both my kids got it.

number4 posted 12/19/2020 16:35 PM

So I have a theory, based on my non-medical experience, but my personal experience:

I'm sure everyone's been reading about the incidents of adverse reactions for some of the people getting their first vaccine this week. I know there were at least three in Alaska, some in Illinois, and probably others. The kinds of reactions I'm reading are: increased heart rate, shortness of breath, tingling in extremities. I haven't read anywhere that anyone has gone into any kind of anaphylactic shock. A couple of people stayed overnight in a hospital for observation. Of course, these are just the stories we're hearing about - there may be others.

My theory is this - there are two different kinds of reactions. One is the more severe kind, such as anaphylactic. And as has been discussed, if someone has had a bad reaction to any of the ingredients in this vaccine, they should proceed with caution. But I propose another kind of reaction - I suspect some of these may be anxiety-related. I base this on my own experience. Think about it - this horrific ten months of our lives being upended is now possibly going to start to get uprighted with the availability of the new vaccines. There's been SOOO much pressure within the scientific community to get something out that works. I firmly believe in the science behind the vaccine (because this is H's field of research and development and I trust his ability to review the data), but man, if I were one of the first ones to get it under EUA, in my head, I know it's safe, but when that serum goes into my body, my emotions are going bonkers, because I'm an anxious person and tend to react this way. And my anxiety presents exactly in the manner which has been described by the people who have had adverse reactions - racing heart, shortness of breath, tingling. This explains my anxiety attacks to a T.

Last spring, my doc decided I needed a B-complex booster shot. I'd never had one before, and I told myself it was safe. But right after that shot went in me, I started to feel light-headed, had a racing heart, shortness of breath, and then the tingling. Logically, I knew the shot wouldn't cause that, but my head said to worry, more than was necessary. Most of my anxiety is health-related anxiety - I've had enough scares in my lifetime to explain it, but many times my brain takes over and the situation spirals out of control in mere seconds.

I know I'm not the only person who has anxiety issues. Even if these people who had adverse reactions don't suffer from anxieties on the level I do, when they're sitting in that chair waiting for the needle to go in, some of them might feel like the world is watching them, because we are. The world is looking to see how these people respond to this vaccine that was developed in record speed. Those health care workers who are getting it, may be feeling like they need to take the vaccine now (so they're safe at work and aren't bringing it home to their families), and because they want to set a good example for the rest of us so we can get this fucking nightmare under control. For those who have health anxieties, we know we need to receive this vaccine, but there's still an underlying fear of a rare reaction. It's almost like we have two choices, and we don't like either one - don't get the vaccine and risk getting COVID; or do get it and worry about a side effect. Honestly, when my time comes that I'm eligible for it, I will probably take a Xanax prior to my appt., even months from now when even more will be known about the vaccine.

Again, just my uneducated theories based on my own experience.

HFSSC posted 12/19/2020 16:51 PM

No you don't. Listen I am seeing more and more every day on the Nurses talk Corona page on FB that have got it for a second time. Heck we have a poster on this page that also has had it twice, and the second time was way worse. So I am willing to take the vaccine, vs natural immunity on this one.

Yep! <raises hand>

Thatís me. And yes, I had it twice and the second time I thought I was going to end up in the hospital. I stayed home but checked my oxygen sats every hour. And I stayed in the 90-92 range for over two weeks. I think Iíve said this in the other COVID thread... Iím still having shortness of breath, overwhelming fatigue and this weird jacked up thing with my sense of taste. Iím going to see a cardiologist and a pulmonologist in January. I have no interest at all in finding out what a third bout with COVID would do to me.

Weíve also had 3 or 4 patients who had it in July, tested negative and then got it again. All but one of those were much worse the second time as well. I am ready to get my shot. My company is contracted with Walgreens for the Moderna so we are looking at early January.

Girl123 posted 12/19/2020 17:39 PM

I understand the concerns about the vaccine. I will take it when it's my time. I'm in the bottom of the list so it will take some time.

sewardak posted 12/21/2020 04:58 AM

Do we contact our doctor to get the vaccine? How does one know when to get it? I'm a teacher so in the upper tiers.

tushnurse posted 12/22/2020 10:48 AM

Can I just vent a minute?!?!?!

My damned company didn't take steps to ensure that we would get in the first round of vaccinations.
Then we were told it would be after the first of the year to get it, regardless of qualifying for first round vaccines.

Then today those fuckers at my company made a FB post w/ one of the physicians getting their vaccination. I included the FB post and emailed the head of HR, My Boss, Her Boss, and if I don't get a response today I'm including the entire board tomorrow.

Fucking ridiculous. The people that want it can't get it, but the hospitals have given all 1A-C people that are willing by this past weekend.

nightowl1975 posted 12/30/2020 01:25 AM

I was vaccinated yesterday. Iím in Texas, and CVS is handling vaccines for long term care employees and residents. We were the first facility in my city, and I never wouldíve guessed that the pharmacists sent to vaccinate us had never run an on-site covid vaccine clinic before us. It went REALLY smoothly.

About 25% of staff opted to get vaccinated. The breakdown of yes vs no was nearly exclusively along education level lines which I found interesting, but not surprising. About 95% of residents chose to get vaccinated (or their loved one who makes medical decisions for them opted to have them vaccinated). This also didnít surprise me. The risk to our residents from getting covid is horrifyingly high.

So far, Iím about 36 hours post-injection. My arm is VERY sore, worse than a tetanus shot. I have no other symptoms at this point. Mostly, I feel a sense of relief that I made a decision, and it feels as if there is a glimmer of hope for getting life somewhat back to normal eventually. Either decision carries distinct risks, but for me, at the end of the day, I chose to take the risks of getting vaccinated.

Had you told me a year ago that I would get a brand-new vaccine using technology never before used for vaccines, under emergency authorization, for a virus that didnít even exist, I wouldíve suggested you seek mental help. Itís so.... bizarre how very different life can be in just one year.

Jeaniegirl posted 12/30/2020 12:09 PM

I am possibly one of the most 'non-medical' people here. So I have a question.

I have AB-Negative blood type. I've never 'caught' anything from anyone in my life. My Mom, bless her heart, did not trust the 'government' about vaccines when my sister and I were young. She had a doctor who agreed with her. We were never vaccinated. I recall my poor sister having the mumps, chicken pox AND measles - one right after another. We not only shared a bedroom, we shared one of those big poster beds together. I never caught anything. I'm wondering if my blood type figures into this? Opinions?

PS: I am definitely different from my Mom, my daughter was vaccinated.

Lionne posted 12/30/2020 16:24 PM

Does anyone have an understanding about what is happening in Florida, maybe other places, but this is the one I know about.
A friend, age 66, no other issues, is scheduled to have a vaccine next week. In NJ where his 92 year old mother lives, this is the policy.

Currently, Phase 1B of vaccination will include frontline essential workers and individuals over 75; Phase 1C will include other essential workers, adults 65-74, and persons aged 16-64 with medical conditions that increase the risk for severe COVID-19

His mother has received no information about when she can get it. I'm trying to help.

I recognize that this is a shitshow, I do believe the powers that be are, in essence, doing the best they can (although seeing healthy people in government get shots before health workers and us old folks burns my butt)

So, what's up in Florida? People can register and schedule appointments, does this mean they can jump the line in front of essential workers?

traicionada posted 12/30/2020 18:10 PM

In Texas, we are still stuck on Phase 1 - Tier 2; thus, I got vaccinated on 12/22. Right now. I am working around the clock to come up with a solid plan to immunize our high-risk patients the moment we hit Phase 2 - Tier 1. Our biggest operational challenges are vaccine storage and staffing. We are hoping we get Moderna rather Pfizer since the allocations are smaller and potentially easier to handle.

number4 posted 12/30/2020 19:34 PM

I recognize that this is a shitshow, I do believe the powers that be are, in essence, doing the best they can (although seeing healthy people in government get shots before health workers and us old folks burns my butt)

Yes, it's definitely heading down the road of a huge clusterfuck. I have retired friends on the east coast who are getting it (in their late 60s with no co-morbidities) next week, but have another friend in rural Washington state, who is in her 70s and has co-morbidities, who has no idea when she can get it.

Here in CA, only 1% of the population has been vaccinated - so I'm pretty sure that means all people in healthcare haven't gotten it - in fact, I know none of the PTs in the Pilates studio I was attending have gotten it. Yet, these friends of mine on the east coast are getting it.

I think this whole debacle is only going to get worse.

And yes, in FL, it's a first-come, first-serve protocol for senior citizens. I mean, WHAT THE FUCK?? As long as I'm 65 years old (which I'm not), and can stand in a line, I can get this vaccine before someone, say 60 years old, who has co-morbidities? And of those people over 65, the ones who really need the vaccine, are likely not able to stand in line and wait because they have medical issues. So the healthy ones over 65 will get it over the unhealthy one. I read there are hour-long lines there. Crazy shit.

zebra25 posted 12/30/2020 19:58 PM

Definitely a head scratcher.

I know people in FL in good health in their fifties that have been vaccinated. They work in health care but work from home.

My husband is an essential worker in a high risk group and no word when he will be able to get vaccinated.

Health care workers that work from home in our area area are also at the front of the line.

It seems like essential workers should go before those that can work from home.

I'm sure this is a logistical nightmare to figure out.

million pieces posted 12/30/2020 21:30 PM

Iím in Maryland, we started vaccinating our most frontline medical staff two weeks ago. I got mine earlier this week. Still a ton of people left at my hospital left to go. No word when we will be going to the next tier.

Chrysalis123 posted 12/31/2020 09:40 AM

And yes, in FL, it's a first-come, first-serve protocol for senior citizens. I mean, WHAT THE FUCK?? As long as I'm 65 years old (which I'm not), and can stand in a line, I can get this vaccine before someone, say 60 years old, who has co-morbidities? And of those people over 65, the ones who really need the vaccine, are likely not able to stand in line and wait because they have medical issues. So the healthy ones over 65 will get it over the unhealthy one. I read there are hour-long lines there. Crazy shit

I live in SW Florida. Fort Myers made the national news for having first come first serve vaccination clinics. The poor elderly spent the night out in the cold in camp chairs. By 7am there were over 1000 of them.
And they only had 300-400 vaccines to give.

It was a super spreader event for elderly compromised folks getting in line to be vaccinated.

How idiotic can one state be? The governor, who is a Harvard trained attorney decided to ignore the CDC guidelines for who gets vaccines first. He disregarded the recommendations for numbers of people expected in each tier. The tiers do not apply here. And this is why the elderly were camped out in lawn chairs.

So, essential workers under 65 are out of luck including teachers. In the meantime due to the governor insisting schools be fully open he made an executive order requiring schools to strong arm parents that chose to keep kids at home to come back to school. Come January 4th our schools will be bursting at the seams with all the returning students. They are hiding the Covid data around cases in schools from everyone.

It is up to each county for how the vaccines are distributed and only the most populated counties received vaccines. I suspect I won't be able to receive a vaccine until summer. By the way I am a 61 year old teacher.

People are spending hours on phones trying to get through and websites and phone systems are crashing.

As of right now the state is not providing any information about vaccination locations, hours or appointments.

Florida is a living shit show.

[This message edited by Chrysalis123 at 5:42 PM, December 31st (Thursday)]

thatbpguy posted 12/31/2020 15:17 PM

I'm going to wait. I may be in one of the top groups, but I work at home, kids are gone, being careful abut where I go or what I do.... If people's noses start dropping off after 90 days, I may really wait.

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