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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 8:13 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

My dear brother (1 year younger) had surgery today and had stents put in his iliac artery & his femoral artery (these are in his leg). He developed some clots and had to go back into surgery. The surgeon isn't sure if he got them all as he said there was a lot of "debris".

Anyone with a medical background, can you give me some more info on this and are his chances good that these blood clots will go away.

If my dear brother doesn't get better in a couple of days, they will amputate his leg. Below the knee I believe. I am so sad and very concerned for little brother. He lives far away and I can't even go see him.

Please send healing mojo to my brother if you have a moment.


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lieshurt
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Default  Posted: 8:16 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Sending lots of healing mojo for your brother.

(((sister)))


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Girlietoo
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Default  Posted: 8:26 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Oh my, I had an extensive DVT in my leg that went up to my iliac vein- but my treatment involved only blood thinners. There was discussion of a filter but I didn't end up needing it.

Obviously your brother's clot isn't deteriorating as mine did, that sounds very scary. And very painful.

Best wishes for a quick recovery for him.


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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 8:39 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Thanks, lieshurt and girlietoo. I am sorry you had to go through that, girlie.


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Jrazz
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Default  Posted: 8:46 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Sensing bigtime healing mojo to your brother. And hugs to you.


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Lyonesse
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Default  Posted: 8:50 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Sending all available mojo your way! Hope your brother is doing better soon.


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Nature_Girl
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Default  Posted: 8:55 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

I know someone who has gone through the worst possible experiences with blood clots. I'm trying to get her doctor's name now. Gimme a while...


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simplydevastated
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Default  Posted: 8:56 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

I'm so sorry to hear this. Sending lots of healing thoughts and prayers to your brother and big (((hugs))) to you.


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purplejacket4
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Default  Posted: 9:02 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Are the clots in the arteries or veins?


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Her: fWS 48 (same sex partner)
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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 10:35 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Good question, pj4. I am not sure. I would have to ask my sister that talked to the surgeon. I can't ask her now as she finally got home from the hospital and is exhausted and needs sleep. She has been at the hospital with brother since 6:00 am this morning. I will ask her tomorrow. Please stay tuned, pj4, I was really hoping you would check this thread.

Thanks everyone for sending mojo and prayers, and the hugs, too.


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d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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dazdandconfuzed
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Default  Posted: 7:43 AM, February 14th (Friday)

When I was young (early 20s) and still thought I was invincible, I developed a massive clot in one of my legs that I convinced myself must be sciatica or something because I had just been moving furniture around so I thought the pains down my leg were coming from my back. The problem with clots in your legs is that when they leave the leg, they gotta go somewhere.

Mine ended up in my lungs. My treatment was blood thinners and being flat on my back for a week in ICU. The treatment worked to clear them up - not a medical person so I'm not sure if they "go away" or what exactly happens - but treatment was successful and I got sprung from the hospital.

But - I don't know if your brother's medical issues are even similar, as my clots were caused by birth control (yes, those warnings are SERIOUS!) and there was no underlying trauma, like surgery and stents, and I'm sure that complicates the issue. It's been 18 years now for me, and I have to be careful about certain things, but I really have no lasting effects.


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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 7:51 AM, February 14th (Friday)

How scary, dazed! Glad you are fully recovered. Brother is in ICU. I would assume they are using blood thinners. It is a matter now of hoping the surgeon cleared all the clots out and if any remain they will dissolve.

Dear Brother doesn't take care of himself. He smokes like a chimney and drinks like a fish. He is the nicest man evah, though, and I love him dearly.


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d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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StormyPrincess
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Default  Posted: 8:07 AM, February 14th (Friday)

Sending healing ((hugs)) and ((prayers)) to your brother and you. It sucks that you cannot go see him. Keep us posted. You have an army of caring people cheering for his speedy recovery!


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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 8:36 AM, February 14th (Friday)

Thanks, Stormy.

pj4, the clots are in his arteries. This morning the nurse said she still can't find a pulse in Brother's foot, but it is starting to "pink" up a bit.


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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tushnurse
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Default  Posted: 8:38 AM, February 14th (Friday)

As PJ asked, you probably have surmised that there are several different places, and kinds of clots that we can develop.

It sounds like your brother has developed a clot in his vascular system, that is fairly extensive. Based on the fact that they placed stents yesterday, it and now had these clots, I suspect that he had some level of long stringy clot in his legs to begin with, often times this happens slowly over years even. However just like with heart disease, or a clogged pipe, the debris builds up to a point where things just cant get through, and when you don't have blood flow your tissues don't get oxygen, and the food they need.

Often times when this happens the vascular guys, or invasive radiologist, or cardiologists even, will place a long catheter within the vessel that is similar to a soaker hose and then infuse a clot busting drug, over a period of time, usually 12-48 hours. This has become hugely successful in the past 10-15 years or so. When I was still working invasive cardiology we had one cardiologist that was trained and very skilled at this, he saved many limbs, that other doctors had said nope can't fix it.

It sounds like they did an evacuation of clots which is a bit different, and requires watching, but often times is followed by infusions of similar clot busting drugs. Obviously the need to get blood back to those tissues is extremely important.

(((and strength, and SI Mojo))))


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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 8:44 AM, February 14th (Friday)

Thanks, tushnurse, for explaining it more to me.


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
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d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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itainteasy
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Default  Posted: 9:30 AM, February 14th (Friday)

He's probably getting Heparin while he is in the hospital, and he may be transitioned to Coumadin when he is discharged.

He'll have to get his blood checked A LOT to make sure it's not too thick or too thin...but, I don't believe he'll have to be on that forever.

I think people that take coumadin for the rest of their lives are ones that had TIAs or full on strokes.

***this is just from my experience as a phlebotomist. I'm not a nurse, and I'm certainly not a doctor.

I hope he recovers soon. He's in my prayers.


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tushnurse
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Default  Posted: 9:58 AM, February 14th (Friday)

The fact that it is pinking up is a great sign actually.

Often it takes time for the pulses to return, and for some folks it is always hard to find and feel.

I worked with a gal that could NEVER feel pulses, and had to use a machine to find them. I also worked with a nurse that could always feel them, and when she marked the spot she could feel it, we could always find it with Doppler. It was amazing.....Point being we all sense differently, but the pinking means he is getting good oxygenated blood to the area.


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purplejacket4
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Default  Posted: 11:07 AM, February 14th (Friday)

As tushnurse said the fact the leg is pinking up is good. I'm sure he is on some blood thinners and it will be a wait and see thing.


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Her: fWS 48 (same sex partner)
Together: 18 years now (both MDs)
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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 11:57 AM, February 14th (Friday)

Thanks so much for the info itainteasy, tushnurse, and pj4. I really appreciate it.

pj4, you say it is a wait and see thing. How long do they let it go before they need to make the decision to amputate?


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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tushnurse
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Default  Posted: 1:49 PM, February 14th (Friday)

sorry to jump in on your question to PJ, but I can tell you from my experience as long as the foot is viable, warm, pink, with blood flow, and usable they will watch it.

If they are doing the soaker hose thing that can last from anywhere around 8-36 hours, depending on his response, and how it looks. They may also take him back to "clean things up" again, this can be done a few times to make sure that they are giving the blood room to flow.

Vascular surgeons, at least in my experience are not anxious to amputate limbs. Now sometimes, esp in younger people they will, because they know they will recover, and rebound, and sometimes it's a relief for the patient because the pain is better/gone, and the body can heal.

PJ? Your thoughts?


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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 4:38 PM, February 14th (Friday)

Got back from the hospital just a bit ago. Brother looked comfortable & responded to his name when I spoke to him. His status is critical but stable, had 3 pints of blood today & while I was there, the orthopedic dr came in to evaluate Brother. His statement was that if we do surgery, it probably won't be until maybe Monday, maybe even Wednesday. He also was not too optimistic, but wanted to wait & see how things go. I like that he is conservative & willing to wait & see.
This is what our sister just posted on FB.

Thanks again, tushnurse. I don't think they are doing the soaker hose thingy. Also, earlier our sister said that his leg down to right above his ankle is much better and pink, but from a little above the ankle down is not doing well at all. My brother is in his later 50's, not quite young, but not elderly.



BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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Default  Posted: 4:44 PM, February 14th (Friday)

They want to watch the foot, ankle and leg for several days to see what is viable (the tissue that has survived and can be used); at that time they will decide if there will be any amputations. Most surgeons wait at least 72 hours after the initial surgery and complications to see. I would think sometime early next week (Monday or Tuesday) will be telling. If the tissue is very bad and it seems that he is getting sicker from it (the area has such poor blood flow it has become infected sending the infection to the rest of the body) then they will quickly amputate.


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Default  Posted: 5:16 PM, February 14th (Friday)

Sending your brother and you positive thoughts and strength.


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Default  Posted: 6:39 PM, February 14th (Friday)

Sending healing thoughts his way!


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Default  Posted: 6:59 PM, February 14th (Friday)

I had a paul.binary embolism after d day
I was on con. For a year
Sorry can't spell it right. Will keep your bro in my prayers.


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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 10:45 PM, February 14th (Friday)

Brother took a turn for the worse. His foot is completely, horribly black. They will be amputating tomorrow. He doesn't even know what is going on.


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

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"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 10:48 PM, February 14th (Friday)

Thanks all for the good information and for all the well wishes for my dear brother. This is going to be a tough road for him. He does have a wicked sense of humour so hopefully that will get him through. I can just hear him bitching that he has to buy two shoes when he only needs one.


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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Jrazz
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Default  Posted: 10:52 PM, February 14th (Friday)

Oh Sister, I'm so sorry. That's so scary. I'm glad that he's in a place where they can look after him and give him the best treatment possible.

(((SM and Family)))


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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 8:39 AM, February 15th (Saturday)

You are so kind, Jrazz. Thank you.

As I am typing this, they are cutting off his leg. I know things could be worse. He is alive and getting good care. Many can and do live good full lives missing a leg (or two!), I just hope Brother doesn't get depressed and angry.

Thanks again all who have reached out to me, I so appreciate you taking the time.


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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dazdandconfuzed
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Default  Posted: 4:40 PM, February 15th (Saturday)

Sending healing thoughts to you and your brother.


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tushnurse
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Default  Posted: 6:25 PM, February 15th (Saturday)

Sister by today's standards he is young. He will do well as long as he can stay positive. Today's prosthetics are amazing and if they eliminate the problem he can really focus on healing. If he is a smoker he must absolutely stop completely. He has to get healthy with his diet and lifestyle and he can excel and have a very normal life.

I am wishing you peace, your brother strength and healing and the Drs and Nurses a calm steady quiet hand and mind to provide him the best care possible.

((( and strength)))


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Him: FWS
Kids: 15 & 17
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itainteasy
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Default  Posted: 9:48 AM, February 17th (Monday)

Any updates, Sister? How's your brother doing today?

He's in my prayers.


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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 7:46 PM, February 17th (Monday)

I am so sorry, itainteasy. I didn't notice a new post on this thread.

I started a new thread. Lost a Leg? What Do You Say?

Thanks for asking, itainteasy.


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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