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User Topic: Long Term Affairs - Part 33
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Wow, never been first before. Happy Friday all!


I am not a marriage counselor. I chose "MC Jack" in the spirit of a handle like "MC Hammer" or Young MC"...there is a lot of 'rapping' here, no? At the time I did not know what MC stood for on this site. Duh.

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Good morning!

I was reading a response on a nother thread & came across this quote & thought I'd share:

You and your AP cavorted on the Island of Misfit Toys for so long your sense of right and wrong are distorted

I love this Quote! It is both funny & tragically true .


Me- BS
DDay- 8/26/09
Separated after failed R effort.

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Default  Posted: 8:31 AM, October 19th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

double post

[This message edited by honesttoafault at 8:37 AM, October 19th (Saturday)]


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Allgood: Sad, but true.

DH: I wanted to respond to you from the last thread, but we ran out of room!
We lose ourselves and how good we are when we just listen to our WS. What I have realized is that although we might have been looking at the WS and the past with rose colored glasses, the WS often puts on blinders and dark shades and only sees the bad stuff or blows anything that is not perfect out of proportion to justify their A. If they actually looked at reality that the BS, the AP and themselves are human beings with good points and bad, there would be no justification for their actions and they would have to face the truth: that they are fuck-ups like Miracle's pfm's therapist said.

Dh, reread your post as objectively as possible. Look how much you have achieved! I am in awe that you have actually published a novel, a dream that so many aspiring writers have! You are amazing. Your WS is an idiot and I believe deep down he knows how good you are, but to admit that to himself would admit that he is messed up.

Try to write again. You know what to do. Don't think, just write. Stephen King's book "On Writing" might be a good place to focus just to help you get started again.
My therapist did an exercise with me once. I was so unbelievably emotional one day, so she asked me to write down all the objects in the room that were started with the letter T in 30 seconds. When the time was up, she pointed out that I was able to focus on something else even though I was so emotionally upset.
Start writing again, don't think. Don't even think about that you have to get this done in the time table of the contest. Give yourself a time table: "I am going to write an hour today" and put all else aside.

Get a book on emotionally abusive relationships.

Lastly, try what I'm trying to do right now, I wasn't seeing the forest for the trees. I was focusing on details and saying, "that's not too bad" or " I think I can put up with that" but when I looked at the overall picture, I said to myself, "What am I doing? What am I thinking? This can't possibly work!!"

We want it to work so badly. We want what we thought we had. We'll do anything for it, but the old M is dead. We can't be married to a zombie who is not in the M completely .

{{{DH}}}


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Default  Posted: 9:29 PM, October 19th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Lastly, try what I'm trying to do right now, I wasn't seeing the forest for the trees. I was focusing on details and saying, "that's not too bad" or " I think I can put up with that" but when I looked at the overall picture, I said to myself, "What am I doing? What am I thinking? This can't possibly work!!"

We want it to work so badly. We want what we thought we had. We'll do anything for it, but the old M is dead. We can't be married to a zombie who is not in the M completely .

Honest - OUCH did I need to hear that tonight. WH who won't own his issues yet claims he wants to fix himself, over and over, for over a year. When I look at the totality of just the lies and betrayals that have come out in last three weeks it's enough to take my breath away. Yet somehow - I'm still cheerleading for his ass to wake up in the 2 weeks and 6 days left here before he moves (a week before divorce is final). Guess it's time I *REALLY* face the fact that he won't ever change?


If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck - it's not a fluffy pink unicorn squirting liquid rainbows, complete with pots of gold out of it's ass.

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Default  Posted: 10:19 PM, October 19th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((honest)))
(((sodamn)))

you both will get through it all....

i have a really cool saying on a plaque in my kitchen

"when one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us" - helen keller


too often we refuse to move forward with life...we are afraid...the unknown is somehow scarier then sorry ass truth we are currently living in and with....

we paralyze ourselves because of the unknown, or because of our fears of what we "believe" will be....

its also hard to let go...let go of the dreams we had, the future we thought would be...and for alot of us we are in the second half of our lives....making it even scarier....

but and its a really big but here....so many who DO move forward come back to tell us wonderful stories of how good life is for them now....

and even for those whose life is not wonderful, it at least holds peace...

i for one refuse to stay stuck...i guess my d-day, or actually the 6 months i gave pfm from d-day was truly my awakening....i had a shitty marriage. i made excuse after excuse....and i think that was the straw that broke my back...and what a fucking straw that was.... ....the point....it takes doing different to get different

for years i listened to lies and wanted to believe, for years i listened to my fears, for years i settled for second best, third best, fourth best...the amount of people and things that were put before me and my kids was astounding...and i put up with all of it...

so 6 months after d-day....i gave him till the end of june....and he still didn't do what i needed...he never did what i needed, except at certain times to just shut me up....and then it was really just words...rarely if ever did he follow through with the actions....

so , any ways.....i finally made the choice to PUT MYSELF FIRST AND FOREMOST...first time ever...

and you know what, i still have some crazy fears, but bigger then my fears is my excitement over my budding future....excitement over the peace I KNOW i will have, excitement over my life again.....the closer i get to my goal the more excited i feel....

so girls and guys....pick up your big girl panties, or your britches....suck it in and run....don't walk to your bright futures....and BELIEVE really BELIEVE IN YOUR FUTURE AS A GOOD ONE...A HAPPY ONE.....


k....coming down off my soap box now.....

and now lets decorate the new house


i used to want a cabana, complete with cabana boys and delicious coctktails....now i want something a bit more substantial....

i want a cottage style house, a fireplace, a a cup of hot cocoa!!! and i still want the cabana boys...


whose next....describe our new house....there is room for all....the lta house is always big enough with accommodations for all!!!!


(((tribe)))

[This message edited by iwantamiracle at 10:20 PM, October 19th (Saturday)]


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Default  Posted: 6:40 AM, October 20th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Miracle - what a great post!

The new home - I would add the view - I haven't traveled much, but I do recall my view of the mountains when we rented a lakeside cottage was very peaceful & calming & I enjoyed waking up & looking out the window with my hot cup of coffee each day.


Me- BS
DDay- 8/26/09
Separated after failed R effort.

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((Sodamnlost))

Honest - you sound stronger too.

IWAM - It's funny you say that. I've had a recurring dream lately where I am sitting in a cottage on an overstuffed chair under a blanket. There is a fireplace going, a cup of tea beside me, and I am reading a book. I think it's just me wishing for peace.

MC and Honest - thank you so much for your replies! WH gave me an anniversary card that talked about how much of a wonderful wife and mother I am, how he is so grateful that I have been so loyal and strong through hard times, etc. He thinks I am intelligent and talented. He hates that his A has damaged my self-image. When he sees me crying in front of the mirror he tells me I'm gorgeous and sexy. Just won't touch me. He tells me any guy would be lucky to have me. But DD had to endure him singing along to one of 'their' songs on the radio on the way to school the other day. The duality makes my head spin.

My flaws?

1- After 7 years of sharing a house with his overbearing, bipolar mother, I've had enough. Actually, I lost patience for it about three years ago, which was his excuse to start the affair in the first place.

2- I have some heath issues that occasionally knock me on my butt for days at a time.

3- I am not as neat a housekeeper as he would like, mostly because of 1 and 2, but to be honest, I've never been as concerned about clutter as he is.

4- I don't think it's okay for him to fuck OW at the Park-n-Ride. Silly me - I thought the title meant it was a carpool lot.

I also don't take criticism from him well.

I recently entered a contest for two people to get to go into the city and meet a famous singer whom both WH and DD love. I knew I would have to work that night, it only gave you two days notice, but I entered anyway, thinking on the off-chance I won, they would have a great daddy-daughter night. I won! I then jumped through hoops to get the tickets changed into WH's name, because they were in my name and supposed to be non-transferrable. I told him about it and he said more than once 'let's be honest - you did it for DD'. Ummm... no... I did it for both of you. I was hurt by that, and didn't understand his need to minimize it and not acknowledge that I'd done it for him too.

The next day, I researched restaurants in the area and made them a reservation for dinner, then spent the afternoon scouring the county for a fan t-shirt for DD to wear to the event. WH asked me several times during the day if I had found the camera, which was missing. I hadn't. I looked, but hadn't made it a priority because I doubted they were going to let cameras in, especially since it said they would take a picture for you. He then says "we suck" because DD was going to meet one of her idols and we were going to have no proof of it because we lost the camera. I was hurt by this and said "No, I don't suck. I won you a once in a lifetime opportunity to meet one of your favorite singers, and made you a dinner reservation so you can have a great daddy-daughter day. I am awesome." And yes, I know I internalized the "we" but he often says "we" in such a way that it really means me.

Afterwards, though, he did post the picture of him and DD with the singer on Facebook saying it was a night he would never forget and thanking me for it, so that was nice.

I talked to him about his staying out late and not telling me where he was or when he was going to be home. He apologized, saying he did it because he was "f'n pissed off" at DD and I giving him a hard time for having to take people out. When he came home after night #2 and said he was taking them out the next night as well, DD said "Again?" Apparently that equated to us giving him a hard time and therefore deserving of punishment.

I don't know. The antiversary is in a couple of weeks. Maybe that's why I am so down. It's coming up on a year and next to no progress has been made. Hell, I'm still not convinced the A is actually over. My hope is a fading ember. I don't know how much more pain I can take. I can't see him every day and not want my M back, want my H back, especially when I see flickers of him. It hurts so, so much.

[This message edited by DecimatedHeart at 8:17 AM, October 20th (Sunday)]


Me, BS 41
Him WH 42 - LTA, EA/PA
Together 24 years
DD13 - the love of my life
DDay#1 11/10/2012
DDay#4 4/5/2013 (NC broken AGAIN)
A supposedly over 6/14/2013

All my posts are edited - I hate typos. :)


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Decimated-
Wow!
Your description of your WH is unbelievable.

He sounds like an incredibly selfish,disrespectful,ungrateful, entitled, idiot.
Does he behave that way with everyone? friends? co-workers?

or is this bad behavior and negative attitude just something that he reserves for you and your children?

Please re-read your post and think about it.
Would you remain friends with anyone who treated you this way?

and your suspicion is that every time he stays out late (and it sounds like he does this often) he is with the OW?

Take another look at the Healing Library (yellow box on the left) and look at the article about the 180.

And once again I recommend reading Love Must Be Tough by James Dobson.

Life is short DH.
Living in constant stress and misery takes a toll on your health.
It sounds as if his bad attitude is affecting your children as well.

That's where I definitely draw the line.If someone is hurting my children-the mama bear comes out.

I would do anything to protect my children and give them a safe , happy, peaceful life.

They deserve that.
You deserve that too.

[This message edited by njgal480 at 9:26 AM, October 20th (Sunday)]


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


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Default  Posted: 9:48 AM, October 20th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((dh)))

the reason your so down.....antiversary???...hell child, look at how you are living, the antiversary is but a small part of what your life has become....with exception to your beautiful dd your life is miserable.....you live in a house with people who treat you like shit every single day....the only place you probably get any solace from that would be work provided your ws is not texting you some kind of bullshit...or if you are in the mode of wondering where he is, whats he doin, who is he with.....

its time for you to take your life back....and i know you have been taking steps to do just that....and i am so proud of you for it.....but, and this is a big but here....i know you are stuck in your living sich for the time being....so what steps can you take in the meantime to detach, detach detach......listen to njgal and learn the 180 and implement it asap...

as far as your ws's relationship with your dd, that onus is on him....i think what you did for them with getting those tickets was awesome...and as far as a camera,,,.....asshole...does he not have a camera on his phone that he is so attached too...i am assuming he got a new one after he dropped the old one in the toilet....anyways i digressed there....step back and let him be.....what he decides to do or not do.....let him be....do what you need to do get some peace...and get out of that house as much as possible....


everyday add a new step towards your inner peace....and look forward instead of backward....who he was is dead.....

when someone dies its often hard for us to accept when its sudden, or we just saw the person and they were fine....when we see video or pix of them it makes it more UNREAL...the problem is of course it is real....for us christians when we have a wake...it helps i believe when you see the body...of course the mind sometimes plays tricks and you think you see the body breathing or moving...the mind is so so powerful...the body of course though is not moving because its dead.....at the end, the casket is closed and then te funeral....making the adjustment towards believing it...it still hurts, it still feels unreal sometimes....then we enter the whole grieving process...and no longer being able to "see" and "hear" the person helps that along...

now for us and those of us who have dead marriages.....the person IS still here, in front of us...but its not the original person we thought (s)he was any longer....almost like the body snatchers....the face and body match but the words/actions do not...and it makes it that much harder to let go....especially when once in a while we "see" a glimpse here and there of who they were....

the point: of course there will always be those glimpses....it is now a merged person of old and new....the old one is dead....and now its a new version...one that incorporates some of the old with all of the new....and the new is not towards a positive change for your marriage, its actually turns away from the marriage....its still the same face, same voice and even some of the same everything...BUT...the NEW inflections are there....and as long as (s)he will turn away from the marriage...there is no marriage to save....the ws has thrown it away, the ws has decided to behave in a manner that does not foster and nurture a marriage, but to tear it down, hurting the bs over and over and over.....

imo...when a ws is the one who caused the relationship to get into the ditch, the ws NEEDS to be the ONE to DIG IT THE HELL OUT...and when a ws leaves it up to the bs....well...(s)he is NOT CHOOSING the MARRIAGE in any way shape and form....and a ws who does not choose the marriage...does not deserve a bs who does and tries....

k....comin off my soapbox now....

(((dh)))


ok back to decorating...

we have a cottage with a view and of course a pot of tea with a comfy blanket....oh and some cabana boys...

[This message edited by iwantamiracle at 9:50 AM, October 20th (Sunday)]


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On the lake that we have a view of (along with the mountains) from the tribes cottage there are a pair of loons. You can hear their plaintive cries, which are both hauntingly beautiful and bittersweet at the same time.

A long with the hot tea at our tribe's cottage, there will always be hot chocolate available with butterscotch schnapps to put in our hot chocolate. It is the nectar of the gods. There will be a grandma and grandpa type people who are the caretakers of our cottage. Always available with a warm smile and a hug if needed. Baking cookies, brownies, bread and all kinds of good stuff everyday.
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For some reason, when we are at our lake house (IRL), the cries of the loons have the effect of causing peace and serenity in me. They aren't always there. I often have to look and listen very carefully to hear them. I am often disappointed that they aren't there. But the times that they are, I am just filled with this overwhelming feeling that all will be well.

I would hope that the loons would have the same effect on you, my dear tribe members, and that we will all be filled with the peace and serenity that the loon cries fill me with and know that all will be well. (((((Tribe)))))


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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Default  Posted: 10:45 AM, October 20th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Im having trouble mixing in the cabana boys with our lakeside cottage theme.

Miracle, we may have to stray from tradition here - cant we just have very attractive single neighbors who invite us over for social events often? Lol.


Me- BS
DDay- 8/26/09
Separated after failed R effort.

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a grandma and grandpa type people who are the caretakers of our cottage. Always available with a warm smile and a hug if needed. Baking cookies, brownies, bread and all kinds of good stuff everyday.
allgood, I agree, and that is why I posted this.

eta: Maybe the cabana boys can come for winter/spring break, miracle?

[This message edited by SisterMilkshake at 11:25 AM, October 20th (Sunday)]


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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Sister-
maybe there is a nearby ski resort and lots of handsome single ski instructors that often rent the lake cottages during ski season?


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


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ok, ok i will give up on the cabana boys and will happily take the ski instructers....but it they have names like zven...i may not be able to control my laughter...

cottage with a lake sideview, hot tea, hot cocoa, spiked....lots of baked goods that add no calories...and grandma and pa happily rockin away when they arent baking for us... .....i hope grandma and pa are rockin grandparents...like a mix of mr and mrs claus meets cloris leachman...

(((tribe)))


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If we are talking about a lakeside cottage during the fall, we have to imagine nature's paintbrush on the leaves of the trees with glorious hues of yellow, red, and orange. The sky is a deep blue.

One more thing, somehow, magically, all those baked goodies and hot chocolate don't make you gain weight!!


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DH..
My flaws?

1- After 7 years of sharing a house with his overbearing, bipolar mother, I've had enough. Actually, I lost patience for it about three years ago, which was his excuse to start the affair in the first place.

2- I have some heath issues that occasionally knock me on my butt for days at a time.

3- I am not as neat a housekeeper as he would like, mostly because of 1 and 2, but to be honest, I've never been as concerned about clutter as he is.

4- I don't think it's okay for him to fuck OW at the Park-n-Ride. Silly me - I thought the title meant it was a carpool lot.

I also don't take criticism from him well.


I was much like you until my therapist started working with me and I made the choice to change. If you were my W…
I would expect you to say and do..
1) You say to me, “You cling to me..” Your mom interferes with our clinging to each other. Do something about it.. In six months she is gone.. I will help you figure out how to help her find her own place. You then a strong women do not respond to my defensiveness… nor my argument. This is the way it is going to be.
2) If you are sick, I try everything within my power to make sure you get healthy. I am no obstacle to your seeing any doctor.. I read about the illness and I share what I find. I encourage to you live healthy by my own example.. inviting you to join me.
3) I decided what I can live with and become more flexible and less rigid. I pick out what I can be happy with and not and let you have your room to keep a mess. I place pressure on you to perform your chores..and I do the room I want. I might hire a maid.. And do it myself if you are too sick to do it without complaint until you are well.
4) Criticism – I do not get rattled responding with any emotions. I control myself. I point it out and compare it as if I was to do the same to you. I tell you to stop it… Every time. But first, I don’t criticize you.. EVER. Nor tell you how best to do anything unless YOU ask for my help. I tell you what I want… because I will not be a hypocrite. I give you a chance to change for months and months.. Adding heavier pressure including consequences as we go along.
Things like these my W says to me all the time..
'let's be honest - you did it for DD'.

me, “let me be honest W, I did it for both of you because I have to work. You believe me or not.” “You think for yourself and let me think for me. I have a mind of my own and don’t need you nor anyone else telling me what I think. If I do something for my DD and only her.. I will let you know.” “Now, what do you need from me to have a great evening besides the tickets?”

Out late again without my knowing where you are at? Let me help you with this by change you.
This is going to take some conflict. Get ready for it and practice it.

Light pressure at first.
“Please explain to me why I should feel safe when you stay out late I have no clue where you are at? What good does that do for our M? I don’t want that in my M” Let him whine…
Think about adding other pressures next time…
Heavy pressure..
“What you did does not make me feel safe. It is your choice to do what you want to do. Go ahead and keep doing that. Next time you “shit” will be backed in boxed and placed in the front yard, I don’t do that to you and you are not going to do that to me. You got that” “Now, I am going for a walk and when I come back let’s enjoy the evening” (Always reset the moment to something safe) .. he goes storming off… LET HIM.
This is the kind of stuff my Therapist says I must change about me. Make it about you with courage. The blame falls on me.. and nobody else. It is my life and I must protect myself and my own happiness.

Maybe that's why I am so down.

You are down because your man is not quality. The only things you can do are to be strong and courageous. He must change on his own because he wants to change. If he does not, have the courage to know it.. and he does not have to be in your happy world. It is your choice, not his.

I have a dream… fantasies.. my W are in many.. but she is also not in many. I bought this house on the River.. very cheap. I put money in.. a huge deck, new furniture, raised ceiling.. great home office.. I am sitting on the back with my fishing pole, feet propped up.. new furniture in it.. The house is what I wanted, decorated the way I wanted.. I am at a peace. I feel good. Progress made in my life.
Peace..

[This message edited by trynhard at 7:09 AM, October 21st (Monday)]


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Am I in the right thread? Grandpas in rocking chairs, cookies, ski resorts, ski instructors, caban boys, lakeside views...that's what I get for taking the weekend off.

I was going to say you were only missing one thing but IWAM came through with the SPIKED hot cocoa.

Hope everyone had a great weekend and happy monday!


D-day 5/24/11
BH = Me
STBXWW = Her
2 children
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7yrsflushed...

How about this one.. Colts are in the SuperBowl.. Since I travel so much I have a free room.. I have a good women who loves football and the Colts.. I get lucky and win the lotto in tickets for the team season ticket holders... I invite my woman to enjoy the weekend. We do. Colts win. lol...


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