You know what you heard. And the boxes and clothes being moved after you put them back is proof.
Put a VAR in his car and start investigating.
Im so sorry.
..that feeling you get in your stomach, when you heart's broken. It's like all the butterflies just died.
I suspect you are right about the attic. If you confront I expect he will lie. Perhaps get a VAR (voice activated recorder) to put in his car?
Also, the next time he may not hide the phone in the attic, but you could always look there again.
Finally, a private investigator may help you. I hired one and also recommended him to an employee of mine. Fortunately he found nothing on my H, but he did help her save a ton of money in alimony. Also, he set up a polygraph for my H, which was helpful for us as well.
I may just go get a VAR today! I would like proof and not just suspicions!!
Meanwhile say nothing about his suspected affair. Get him to relax and make careless mistakes.
Go stealth, Hide a VAR in his car, make sure it's hidden and secure. I knew something was up with my H for months, and it sucked, because I never had any proof. I also toyed with the idea of a PI, but financially it wasn't possible. But I did have a plan in place to do my own PI work, I was going to trade vehicles with a friend, borrow a good camera from my boss, and follow him to the other town where I knew in my gut that was where the A was happening. However, he lost his job, and his work cell plan, and jumped onto mine right away, and when the bill came for the first month, I had all the proof I needed.
In your case you suspect a second phone already. So phone bills aren't going to help, unless he added a phone to your existing plan, in that case, I would say just comb through your statement for any exta accounts, and then of course patterns in times of calls/texts.
Hugs to you and keep posting, we're here to help.
It was expensive; $2000 for retainer. I did get $700 back and most of the rest went for the polygraph.
My friend who used him went through her entire retainer before they got good photos, but she ended up saving hundreds of thousands in alimony.
He told me that 97% of the time in his experience he found that the spouse was actually having an affair.
eta; I hired him to discover if my H was having ANOTHER affair; he had already confessed (cause I had proof) to his LTA. But he had been accused of another, and of course I did not believe his denials.
[This message edited by catlover50 at 11:10 AM, September 23rd (Monday)]
20 yrs. old, single, naive, thoughtless, but not deliberately hurtful.
OW#2 05/2010- 07/2010
44 yrs.old, married bitch in heat who acted like a whore and got treated like one.
Are there eves behind the closet - a place where a light bulb can be replaced by a screw in plug? Somewhere else in that area perhaps.
If not you'll have to check under the insulation I imagine... or taped to bottom of a stair rung...
If you can't find it, I think the VAR is maybe your quickest route to truth here...
FWIW, when I was DIY investigating my WH, that kind of attic access space was EXACTLY where I hid all the proof I was collecting. Just barely reach inside all around the opening, under the insulation. He may not be charging the phone there, he can do that in the car or at work, but he may be hiding it there when he is at home.
Do not back up. Severe tire damage.
If he works someplace with a large lot, that he can't see, Iwould go to his work, with the other keys, and root through that thing like nobodies business, looking for anything incriminating, reciepts for lunch where he purchased 2 meals, a second phone, a different charger from his regular phone, anything out of the ordinary, then plant that VAR. If he comes out, tell him you couldn't find your credit card, or whatever, and thought it may have fallen out while you were in it last.
Yep, when I did this, I found a half empty box of condoms & a slip of paper with OW's phone #s on it. Also, I found the receipt from when he bought the condoms, so I knew more about the timeline. That's how I found out a lot more of the story.
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At the time I lived in Missouri and had to shovel snow to plant and remove the damn thing from his car. Otherwise it would have been obvious that I had been into his car.....they are amazing.
[This message edited by EasyDoesIt at 10:34 PM, September 24th (Tuesday)]