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User Topic: Miley Cyrus...freak show!
Undefinabl3
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Default  Posted: 8:30 AM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

DS, you are not the only one!


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Default  Posted: 8:38 AM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Undefinabl3...

I think I'll "Squee" in agreement with you...afterall, that stupid word has just been officially submitted to the Webster Dictionary


"Don't give up, the beginning is always the hardest." My Mom:)

My tolerance for stupid shit is getting less and less.


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Default  Posted: 9:13 AM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Fwiw, slut shaming isn't referencing her performance, it's referencing the fact that people are disgusted by her performance but are giving the guy a pass despite him being just as bad/guilty/involved in the performance. Slut shaming is referencing the fact that women doing that are bad, slutty girls but the men are all awesome bro you're a stud. That is, a double standard.

Exactly. He can write/perform a sexually explicit song and it's no big deal. A womean does it and BAM, slut shaming.

I'm not referencing her talent, she has no talent now nor did she as Hannah Montana. Madonna, Gaga and others have all been slut shamed at one time or another and they HAVE talent.

It's the double standard that creates and allows the slut shaming.



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He became the model remorseful WS...all while lying and seeing her
Am I done? Yes I am!

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Default  Posted: 9:18 AM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

To me, there are so many other things in the world to be offended/upset by...Miley Cyrus and her foam finger dance are the least of my concerns.

Animal abuse. Children being abused and exploited. Crime against the elderly.

*Those* are social issues that are not only offensive but despicable...imho. That's what I get offended and upset over.

Words to a song? A no talent spoiled brat making a fool of herself? Not such a big deal in my world


"Don't give up, the beginning is always the hardest." My Mom:)

My tolerance for stupid shit is getting less and less.


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Default  Posted: 9:26 AM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Words to a song? A no talent spoiled brat making a fool of herself? Not such a big deal in my world

Agreed!


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Bigger
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Default  Posted: 8:02 PM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I donít think this display was an ďaccidentĒ. Itís the ongoing transformation of the music industry into lower and lower depthsÖ

Compare this lyric:

And I'm like
Baby, baby, baby ohh
Like
Baby, baby, baby noo
Like
Baby, baby, baby ohh
I thought you'd always be mine (mine)

To this lyric;

How many roads most a man walk down
Before you call him a man ?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand ?
Yes, how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

The former lyric needed a team of SIX writers. SIX! (Justin Gšrtner, Justin Bieber, Christopher Stewart, Terius Nash, Christopher Bridges, Christina Milian)

The later only needed Dylan.


I could have selected a ďlesserĒ prophet but even Kiss lyrics are like literary gold compared to the crap being provided to the mass-produced stars of today.

Relatively few of todayís stars write their own music. Often they are added as co-writers simply as a form of payment (choose my song, Iíll give you co-writing fees). Basically they are finely polished instruments that preform what others select for them.

So you have an industry where writers combine to create formula-songs. They then need a formula-performer that can be molded to fit in with an image created by marketing and sales. So Miley began as a child-star, progressed to a Lolita-aged-barely-legal-semi-sex-symbol but still a teenage star. Now sheís grown out of that but because they always marketed her in a not-appropriate-for-her-age sexual light.

So now sheís too old for that Ė what next? Well why not the sexual vamp? And wasnít that the ideal stage to present the new image?

All thought through. All planned. From skin-colored clothing, sexual innuendo, protruding loungeÖ Welcome to the new Miley Cyrus.

And if it doesnít work out? Well the next American Idol, Teenage Star, The Voice, AGTÖ.
Whatever candidate with looks, a voice and a willingness to do anything is waiting in the wings. Miley can join Brittney in suburbia.


"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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Default  Posted: 8:18 PM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Bigger!!!!!

So great to see you!!! And I love your message


"Don't give up, the beginning is always the hardest." My Mom:)

My tolerance for stupid shit is getting less and less.


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Default  Posted: 8:43 PM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Why yes as long as we are comparing those great lyrics from the 60's with today's shit how about this number one hit:

Shirley!
Shirley, Shirley bo Birley Bonana fanna fo Firley
Fee fy mo Mirley, Shirley!

Lincoln!
Lincoln, Lincoln bo Bincoln Bonana fanna fo Fincoln
Fee fy mo Mincoln, Lincoln!

That is just the first verse of the fabulous number one hit the Name Game from 1964. Yes we had some real winners back then.

Point being, every era has their pop 40 shit. There is some fabulous stuff out there now if you look in the right places.

[This message edited by asurvivor at 8:45 PM, August 29th (Thursday)]


I've wiped the shit off. It can be wiped off you know.



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Default  Posted: 9:05 PM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Shirley!
Shirley, Shirley bo Birley Bonana fanna fo Firley
Fee fy mo Mirley, Shirley!

Lincoln!
Lincoln, Lincoln bo Bincoln Bonana fanna fo Fincoln
Fee fy mo Mincoln, Lincoln!

Hey, that was the best jump rope chant when I was a kid (late 60s, early 70s)!


"On particularly rough days when I'm sure I can't possibly endure, I like to remind myself that my track record for getting through bad days so far is 100% and that's pretty good."

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Default  Posted: 9:10 PM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Donít get me wrong. Lots of good talent nowadays and lotís of good music. I just selected two iconic texts (I donít even listen too much to Dylan Ė too hippy for me). Could have pulled Coldplay or even SigurosÖ

And DS - good to be back!


"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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Default  Posted: 9:56 PM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Donít get me wrong.

I didn't...just playing. Besides, anytime I can pull out the lyrics to the Name Game I am all over it.


I've wiped the shit off. It can be wiped off you know.



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Default  Posted: 11:22 PM, August 29th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

A mans response. Just found this on the net.

ďMy little man isnít old enough to read yet, but one day he will be, and one day Iíll give him this letter,Ē he said.


Dear son,

Donít let Robin Thicke be a lesson to you.

Donít let any of these pigs and perverts you see on TV be a lesson to you. They treat women like garbage; they possess no chivalry, no self control; they are disloyal and dishonest; they spend all day pursuing pleasure at the expense of others, and they encourage you to do the same. You might be tempted to follow suit. In fact, you WILL be tempted. These male pop stars and celebrities, look at them, youíll think. They take advantage of emotionally broken, self loathing, confused young women, and they are rewarded handsomely for it. Look at their nice clothes and their nice cars. Look how they are admired and loved. Look, they treat women like trash and other women fawn all over them because of it. This must be how real men behave, youíll think.

And youíll be wrong. Youíll be wrong about a lot of things in life ó this is what it means to be human ó but never will you be more wrong than when you feel the temptation to buy the lies that pop culture sells about the nature of true masculinity. Son, there is nothing glamorous or fun about being a man of low character and no integrity. What you see on TV is a facade. Itís a sales pitch. Itís poison. You see the bright lights and the sexy women, but you donít see what happens when the cameras are off and these pop culture gods return to their lives as mere mortals. You donít see them in their big, empty, lonely houses. You donít see the emptiness in the pit of their souls. You donít see all the alcohol and drugs they have to use to dull the pain of living a life devoid of real, committed relationships. You donít see the hatred they have for themselves and for humanity. You donít see the jealousy they have towards normal, decent men.

Your dad is no celebrity. Heís just an average, boring guy. But heís got something that every famous and non-famous womanizer envies: Heís got the love and commitment of ONE beautiful, smart, faithful woman. Heís got your mom, and heíll only have your mom until the day he dies. He ought to be waking up every day shouting praises to the Lord because of that.

Listen, son, donít let the world tell you how to be a man. They donít know anything about the subject.

Men are loyal. Men are honest. Men respect and honor women. A man goes out and finds one woman, and he vows to protect and love her for the rest of his life. A man would never betray that vow. Even the weakest and most cowardly man ó if he is a man at all ó would die for the woman he loves. Your dad is no hero, but let someone try to hurt your mom and watch him suddenly turn into Superman (or Batman, whichever you prefer).

See, son, you donít have to be big and strong to be a man, although I think you will be one day. You donít have to be ďcoolĒ or athletic. You donít have to play guitar or fix cars. These are all fine things, but they donít define a man. A man is defined by how he treats women, by how he keeps his promises, and by how he protects and serves the ones he loves. Thatís what makes a man a man. My dad taught me that, he taught it by example. I pray I can do the same for you.

Oh, and by the way, if I ever catch you disrespecting women, I will sit you down and talk to you about it. But first Iíll kick your butt up and down the street. Thatís a promise.

Love,

Your old man

It's going viral.

I'm impressed. There ARE some of us still around.


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Default  Posted: 11:51 AM, August 30th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'd never heard the term "slut shaming" until this incident.

Now I've added it to my vocabulary, so I'm going to score the whole thing as a win.


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Default  Posted: 11:58 AM, August 30th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I was listening to a couple of DD20's friends discuss this-did not see it. They think Miley is an attention whore. And then one of them asks "am I the only one who thinks she looked like Cynthia the doll from rugrats?"

I'm glad these kids see it, makes me a little less fearful about our future leaders.


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Default  Posted: 2:57 PM, August 30th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage


..i have to wonder if Miley has ever watched Fred Astair and Ginger Rogers dance and sing????

.. and they didn't need no foam finger to do it!

..i realize, that was then, this is NOW..

..sadly, sex sells and she knows it.. what are the 8+ year olds saying about it??

..school's back in next week.. kids can write some essays on the topic for English class..

smy


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Default  Posted: 3:30 PM, August 30th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Isn't it showbiz though?

I think she's actually brilliant compared to others. To me it was an act, a show and nothing else.

I don't understand all the fuss.


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Default  Posted: 4:41 PM, August 30th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Could you imagine doing something, or making a fool of yourself, and then someone saying "Freak show!" or all the other things that are written on the internet?

The OP here is anonymous, and so I don't mean to offend you in any way. I am just using this as an example. I might have done the exact same thing!

[This message edited by BoardPearl at 5:27 AM, August 31st (Saturday)]


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Default  Posted: 5:16 PM, August 30th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You know board pearl, I'm trying to imagine bending over and grinding Beatlejuice but it just isn't working for me.

I get your point and actually agree with some of what your saying. I think the internet can get carried away with the hate...but we all know that including Miley and her people. I'm sure they had a very good handle on the stir this would cause and had to know that it would burn the internet up. If not, well someone needs to get fired. I personally think this twenty year old kid needs some help. That was sad and hard to watch...not a good thing.


I've wiped the shit off. It can be wiped off you know.



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Default  Posted: 5:30 PM, August 30th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think having us old folks call it a Freak Show was entirely the point. I have to agree with Bigger about the current celebritards. All of those national TV karaoke contests throw people into every genre of music possible because they are not looking for artists, they want the entertainment version of tofu.

Now, just because almost all entertainment is improved with the addition of Breaking Bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUD3zyu7Ek
Hank and Marie watch the VMA.


Your mileage may vary... in accordance with the prophecy.

Do not back up. Severe tire damage.


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aesir
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Default  Posted: 5:30 PM, August 30th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think having us old folks call it a Freak Show was entirely the point. I have to agree with Bigger about the current celebritards. All of those national TV karaoke contests throw people into every genre of music possible because they are not looking for artists, they want the entertainment version of tofu.

Now, just because almost all entertainment is improved with the addition of Breaking Bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUD3zyu7Ek
Hank and Marie watch the VMA.


Your mileage may vary... in accordance with the prophecy.

Do not back up. Severe tire damage.


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