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User Topic: Selfishness and loss
TattoodChinaDoll
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Default  Posted: 7:40 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm half Chinese. My mother was born in China, fled during the communist take over to Taiwan, and met my father when he was stationed there during the Vietnam War. I've always connected with my Chinese side more. I even went to Chinese school. I couldn't even begin to tell you an iota of Hungarian or Slovakian facts, which is what my dad is. My dream is to one day go to China. I want to eat real Chinese food. I want to see the landscapes. I want to see the history. A side story here: when I was little my mom told me how she helped a neighbor build a wall. I thought she helped build the Great Wall.

Don't know why this just popped into my mind but I feel a great sense of loss. I'm probably never going to make it to China now. There is no way a single mother of 3 living in Jersey could save up the money. Especially on a teacher's salary. It really is a devastating feeling...well...one of the many losses. I swear I'm going to be psycho about selfishness in the future. The selfishness the A took away so much special. The selfishness of an unremorseful husband leading to divorce takes away more, too. I guess going to Chinatown in NYC will have to do for now.


Me (BW): 32
WH: 33 TimeToManUp
Married: 10 years, together 16 years
3 daughters: 8, 5, 2, and and 2 angel babies (2013 and 2014)
D-Day: 12/21/2011
Confronted him: 12/22/2011

I'm getting out of here.


Posts: 1706 | Registered: Jan 2012 | From: New Jersey
Nature_Girl
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Default  Posted: 7:43 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm so sorry. Having to completely reinvent ourselves is a hard pill to swallow.

Related Side Note: As I continue to look for jobs I regularly see positions for English teachers in China.


Me = BS (Stay-at-home-mom)
Him = EX-d out (abusive troglodyte NPD SA)
3 tween-aged kids
Together 20 years
D-Day: Memorial Weekend 2011
2013 - I DIVORCED HIM, I'M FREE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBOJpIwF47Y

Posts: 9245 | Registered: Jun 2011 | From: USA
TattoodChinaDoll
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Default  Posted: 7:45 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

If I didn't have 3 kids I'd be on that boat. Especially to get away from Jerkface.


Me (BW): 32
WH: 33 TimeToManUp
Married: 10 years, together 16 years
3 daughters: 8, 5, 2, and and 2 angel babies (2013 and 2014)
D-Day: 12/21/2011
Confronted him: 12/22/2011

I'm getting out of here.


Posts: 1706 | Registered: Jan 2012 | From: New Jersey
nowiknow23
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Default  Posted: 7:48 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I understand that sense of loss. It is a given that somethings will change, and very likely that some plans and dreams will be unachievable. That being said, never say never, TCD. It may not be possible as soon as you would like, but life has a way of veering off in new directions, just when you think you've got the course figured out.

((((hugs))))


You can call me NIK

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.
- Plato


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TattoodChinaDoll
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Default  Posted: 7:55 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Like when a multi-billionaire (I dream big) falls in love with me?

It's something I'll cry about and be angry about. But it will never take the place of being able to be a mom to my children. I'd rather see them happy.


Me (BW): 32
WH: 33 TimeToManUp
Married: 10 years, together 16 years
3 daughters: 8, 5, 2, and and 2 angel babies (2013 and 2014)
D-Day: 12/21/2011
Confronted him: 12/22/2011

I'm getting out of here.


Posts: 1706 | Registered: Jan 2012 | From: New Jersey
ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 8:03 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sounds like you are thinking about your hopes and dreams, where you came from, and what you want in the future. All of that thinking is in the right direction, about YOU

And I agree to never say never. I was just thinking the other day, what people spend their money on really proves where their priorities are. Some people spend it on makeup, clothes, alcohol, hobbies, toys, etc. There's no reason you can't put a little bit of your spending money away here and there for your trip. It's good to have a goal!

I'm saving up for scuba diving with a friend right now (about $400). I'm giving up all my little extras here and there, putting all my bits of spending money away for that.. I can't wait! I think taking your kids would be a great experience for them, so maybe it will take a while, but I'm sure you could get there one day if you want!


xBW~ 35
Two of the most darling sons ~ 10 and 6

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TattoodChinaDoll
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Default  Posted: 8:11 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I've got 3 kids. Maybe one can take mom to show their appreciation.

Well, first I need a full time job. That's a whole other issue.


Me (BW): 32
WH: 33 TimeToManUp
Married: 10 years, together 16 years
3 daughters: 8, 5, 2, and and 2 angel babies (2013 and 2014)
D-Day: 12/21/2011
Confronted him: 12/22/2011

I'm getting out of here.


Posts: 1706 | Registered: Jan 2012 | From: New Jersey
ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 8:14 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I know you're a music teacher, so is working for a school what you really want? When do they start hiring for the fall?


xBW~ 35
Two of the most darling sons ~ 10 and 6

Posts: 1991 | Registered: Feb 2013 | From: Florida, USA
TattoodChinaDoll
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Default  Posted: 8:22 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

If I could actually do what I do now (teach privately), I would love to do that. But I couldn't teach in the afternoons and evenings as a single mom. Working in a public school gives me stability (kids can't quit and stop paying), good hours to be able to drop off and pick up my kids from where ever they are, time in the evenings and weekends for them, insurance, and decent pay that usually goes up each year. I've been looking and have applied to a few. No bites yet.


Me (BW): 32
WH: 33 TimeToManUp
Married: 10 years, together 16 years
3 daughters: 8, 5, 2, and and 2 angel babies (2013 and 2014)
D-Day: 12/21/2011
Confronted him: 12/22/2011

I'm getting out of here.


Posts: 1706 | Registered: Jan 2012 | From: New Jersey
ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 8:36 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yeah, a school sounds like the most reliable and dependable for you.. Keep applying girl! You are so well-spoken on here, I'm sure any school would love to have you.


xBW~ 35
Two of the most darling sons ~ 10 and 6

Posts: 1991 | Registered: Feb 2013 | From: Florida, USA
Dark Inertia
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Default  Posted: 8:39 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Substitute "Chinese" for "Korean" and I could have written your post. I am also Eurasian, and I also identified more with my mom... because I never met my American dad. I lived in a Korean community, also went to Korean school, and we spoke Korean in our home. I also have dreams of traveling overseas... not to Korea, but to a set of islands off the coast of South America. It is very expensive to go there.

My dreams almost died with my divorce. I cried, and mourned everything that I had lost and was losing. And it was my mom who got me out of my funk. Me dying inside was killing her. My depression caused major depression for her. I couldn't bear to see her struggling because of me.

I forced myself to move ahead. I had to rebuild my whole life, mentally, emotionally, financially. Now I am surprised I was ever at the low that I was at. And those lovely islands I wanted to go to? Plans are for next November, and we are on track. This is probably not what you want to hear, but your eventual divorce is NOT the end of your life. You have to pick up and carry on.

When I was a young adult my mom had a long overdue trip back to Korea for a one month stay. As children she had no assistance from our father. She worked 2-3 jobs, saved up every penny, and made a good life for my brother and I. All she had was us kids, and her motivation to be successful was us. You need to find your strength. Whether it is your kids, or you dreams, something needs to to motivate you to carry on. Good luck. *hugs*

[This message edited by Dark Inertia at 8:41 PM, June 19th (Wednesday)]


"If I listened earlier, I wouldn't be here. But that's just the trouble with me. I give myself very good advice, but I very seldom follow it."

Posts: 1174 | Registered: Jan 2011 | From: The Ohio
roughroadahead
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Default  Posted: 8:44 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I know everything looks bleak and overwhelming so soon after you've made the decision (ok, even 6 months later, but less often) but I don't think you need to let that dream go.

You're a single mother with 3 kids now, but that only means you can't go next summer. 5-10 years down the road, you may not even be a single mother any more. Even beyond that, you won't be financially responsible for 3 kids for the rest of your life... maybe China is something that can happen in 20 years, not 10.

All this crap shows us that we never know what's around the next corner... wonderful things can also happen!


BS-Me 30s
WS-Him 30s
D-Day 4/2012 (Insisted EA only)
D-Day 5/2012 (Did I say EA? Ummm..)
Numerous other TT/broken NC d-days until S 1/2013. D settled 11/2013
MOW-coworker, 40s.
2 DS and DD all w/autism

Posts: 725 | Registered: Jul 2012 | From: USA
PinkJeepLady
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Default  Posted: 9:47 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hey there China Doll!
That is a very cool goal, to visit China. You are SO young, it's very possible! I know your kids are young, but trust me, they grow up, very quickly I may add. You will be so surprised that someday (sooner than you think) the kids will be able to care for themselves and be busy in their own activities. You WILL find time to follow your dreams, if there is a will, there is a way!
What you can do in the meantime is decorate your home with beautiful things from China, have a fun little dinner party for the kiddies with Chinese food and start to plan your trip. Where will you go? What time of year would be the best? Start mapping it out......you have to see it to acheive it! I believe in you!
I am on a trip for work in a very fun city which I have never been before, it's not China, but it's enjoyable. You just never know!
Here is another thought, what if after your divorce, you met a wonderful man who happens to be from China and would love to take you there to visit his lovely family??!! He doesn't have to be a millionair, people with normal incomes also go on trips to China!
I say, go to Chinatown in NYC, how fun! Buy some fun things to put on your wall.
Never stop believing in yourself and hang onto your dreams! A lot of people go through life not knowing what they want, at least you know what YOU want, that's half the battle!
Take care,


Me: BW-54. Him-FWH 54. DDay June 1st 2012 cheating with prostitutes overseas
R-ing
"Not everything that counts is counted. Not everything that is counted counts." Albert Einstein

Posts: 471 | Registered: Nov 2012 | From: Out West
abigailadams
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Default  Posted: 9:56 PM, June 19th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You will make it China or wherever you want to go. You are young! I have been to China twice at age 45 to adopt my DD and at 51 to take her back when she was 5. I have been sad too thinking that the divorce will prevent me from taking her again but I am beginning to think I will find a way.

In the meantime, TEArrific on Mott Street is our favorite place. Great bubble tea and wonderful sticky rice and dumplings.


Me BS 54
Him WS 51
Married 10 years together 13
DDay October 11, 2012

Posts: 134 | Registered: Nov 2012 | From: Brooklyn, NY
Bluebird26
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Default  Posted: 6:29 AM, June 20th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Don't allow this situation steal your dream. Whilst you may not be able to go to China right now. You maybe able to go one day. Start putting a little money away, even if it is only a few dollars its a few dollars closer to your dream. Dreams are worth fighting for.


"Loving someone should not mean losing you. Love empowers you. It shouldn't erase you. - Thelma Davis.

Posts: 1280 | Registered: Aug 2012 | From: Australia
itainteasy
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Default  Posted: 8:13 AM, June 20th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hey TCD, I echo what everyone else says, 'Never say Never'.

When you land that job (and you will!!!!) open up a savings account and call it "The China Fund". Put $10 in every pay. $10 isn't a lot of money...it won't take away from the kids. Make sure you can't withdraw or transfer from that account unless you go to the bank---but set up an auto withdrawal in your pay check (direct deposit).

You'll be surprised how quickly you can make that dream a reality.

Don't let go of that dream, TCD. It IS achievable.


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Default  Posted: 8:23 AM, June 20th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

TCD,
I also agree with everyone else.

Please don't let this steal your dream. It is just a set back for now that is all. You will overcome all this and one day you will be on a plan to China. You will think back to how you thought you would never make it there and laugh to yourself and be so DAMN proud of yourself for never letting go of your dream.

And who knows maybe you will find a millior that is head over heels in love with you and treats you like the Empress!


BS(ME)40 WH(HIM)37
DD 19 and DS 15
Separated Aug 2012
Moved back home Oct 31 2013
False R. Still Lying.
Will be divorcing soon!
"You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have"!

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TattoodChinaDoll
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Default  Posted: 8:30 AM, June 20th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I like how you think Faithful.

Thank you everyone for the support and words of encouragement. When that thought crossed my mind I felt that vacuum in my chest and everything just get sucked out...like, "oh no, not another thing." During what I guess was false R (because who would call what he wanted reconciliation) he had mentioned going next year. Good thing we didn't actually plan anything!


Me (BW): 32
WH: 33 TimeToManUp
Married: 10 years, together 16 years
3 daughters: 8, 5, 2, and and 2 angel babies (2013 and 2014)
D-Day: 12/21/2011
Confronted him: 12/22/2011

I'm getting out of here.


Posts: 1706 | Registered: Jan 2012 | From: New Jersey
Kajem
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Default  Posted: 6:42 PM, June 20th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

TCD,

I have a friend who was in a similar place as you several (14-15) years ago. She and her H separated. When her youngest was out of the house, she left her native country and went to china to teach. When I met her (online) she had been there for 3 years and was renewing her contract for a couple more years in a different school in a different part of China. Her kids would regularly come to visit her. She has since gone back to Canada to be closer to her family.

You CAN do this.

Hugs,

K


I trust you is a better compliment than I love you, because you may not trust the person you love, but you can always love the person you trust. - Unknown
Relationships are like sharing a book, it doesn't work if you're not on the same page.

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kernel
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Default  Posted: 7:54 PM, June 20th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

TCD,

As others have said, don't give up on that dream of going to China. Your kids will grow up (so incredibly fast) and you'll have plenty of time to pursue your own dreams. Hang in there.


"On particularly rough days when I'm sure I can't possibly endure, I like to remind myself that my track record for getting through bad days so far is 100% - and that's pretty good."

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