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User Topic: question about the movie SilverLiningsPlaybook- spoilers
authenticnow
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Default  Posted: 10:22 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My brother recommended we watch the movie. He said it was great and I had been wanting to see it anyway.

So we watched it and I absolutely loved it.

Anyway, here's my question---I saw my brother yesterday and we were talking about the movie and he asked me if I realized that all the characters in the movie were Pat. He said that they were all the different aspects of his personality. Jennifer Lawrence's character were his most ill parts, the darkest part of his psyche, his dad was obviously his OCD parts, etc. And, remember the part when they were talking about the big bet with that guy and Jennifer Lawrence's character referred to the other guy and said, "You always do this to MY father!" Why would she refer to DeNiro as her father unless she was Pat?

My brother suggested that maybe Pat never even left the hospital, maybe it all took place there...remember the guy who kept leaving and wasn't supposed to leave? Maybe Pat never left and that guy was the part of him that had a strong desire to leave???

I never even thought of all this. I thought maybe my brother is overthinking it but it makes sense!

I'm wondering what others think.


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Default  Posted: 10:34 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

It makes sense, and I have to say I never considered this aspect. Very interesting...


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Default  Posted: 10:40 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I know, right???

When he said it I felt like an idiot because it didn't occur to me at all. My brother and SIL are more intellectual than I am, lol.

Of course now I want to watch it again with that perspective.


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Default  Posted: 10:50 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I actually really really like this idea. Because for me one of the weaknesses of the movie was the way it all "wrapped up so neatly and happily" despite all the really really dark areas of trauma.

It works better IMO as a construct of a mental patient fantasy. hmmmmm....

Thanks AN, this is a great idea to consider!!


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Default  Posted: 10:53 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

So Pat had to fall in love with himself (even the dark parts) in order to let go of the obsession love for his wife?

And this makes it parallel to the Life of PI movie where the characters are also aspects of the central character. Physical representations of the psyche?


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Default  Posted: 10:55 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yes!

I think it's a much better movie with this theory!

I didn't see Life of Pi but my SIL did make that comparison during our conversation .


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Default  Posted: 10:58 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I loved the movie too. Your brother's analysis is pretty intense for me (not that he couldn't be right). I just thought when she referred to her father it was cause all the men bet together on stuff over the years.

I can't handle that Pat never left the hospital. I never really cared for Bradley Cooper one way or the other but the beginning of that dance scene just melted me - so
Pat has to have left the hospital.


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Default  Posted: 11:00 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

and only by actually embracing himself, and dancing with that part of himself could he gain the acceptance of his father (via the bet)

What does the therapist represent and the fight at the ballgame?


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Default  Posted: 11:05 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I just thought when she referred to her father it was cause all the men bet together on stuff over the years.
That's what I told my brother!

Maybe the therapist represented his self healing and the self love he was working to attain.

The fight at the ballgame could have been his healthy parts winning the battle, because he really tried not to fight and he was defending his brother/self.


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Default  Posted: 11:08 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I actually really really like this idea. Because for me one of the weaknesses of the movie was the way it all "wrapped up so neatly and happily" despite all the really really dark areas of trauma.

Yes I have to admit that it did wrap up a bit too neatly especially with how much drama there was in the beginning but I kinda liked just letting reality slip by me.


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Default  Posted: 11:14 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I agree with both sides of it, too. I liked the happy ending yet it was a bit typical and predictable.


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Default  Posted: 11:14 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I do love a happy ending...


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Default  Posted: 11:19 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The fight at the ballgame was a fight against the way society views and mistreats mental illness and it was a "good fight" so the therapist got involved.

OK, SiAz, you love a happy ending, I love a good analogy/symbolism. But more than that I love a discussion on both!


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Default  Posted: 11:39 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The fight at the ballgame was a fight against the way society views and mistreats mental illness and it was a "good fight" so the therapist got involved.

Nice!!!


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Default  Posted: 11:48 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wow AN I must say I adored the movie, but your brothers take on it would have never entered my pea brain, lol...but I do think it's a very interesting take on it.


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Default  Posted: 11:58 AM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I know, PPGA. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who never would have thought of it.

But it definitely makes the movie even better, IMO! And I did love it even without this angle.


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Default  Posted: 12:43 PM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm just glad it didn't end the way Shutter Island ended. Boy, did I hate that movie!


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Default  Posted: 12:55 PM, May 26th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I saw that but I've forgotten the ending.


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Default  Posted: 3:32 PM, May 27th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

That was your brother's interpretation of the movie correct? Or did he read that somewhere because I did not see that in any of the articles from the author of the book or the director of the film.

I loved the movie; saw a lot of my son in Pat.

Personally I hope it's just your brother's overthinking because I don't like that analysis.

In doing some research I found that the author of the book has a mental illness as does the director's son.

I might actually throw this thought out to my son because he is the master movie analyzer. We cannot watch a movie without him finding a hidden meaning. I am curious as to what he might think.


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authenticnow
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Default  Posted: 5:26 AM, May 28th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yes, that came from my brother (or SIL, I'm not sure, they watched it together and my brother started the convo with SIL there).

My brother said he got the premise of the movie The Sixth Sense five minutes into it. (I didn't see that but I know how it ends)

He's very analytical, so is SIL, and he comes up with this type of stuff all the time.


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