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Coma
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Default  Posted: 10:12 AM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage


1. Since you can't bring up her A for a month what happens after that?

Truth be told is that i am not sure. From my POV i want to give her this time to allow her to worry about other things except us. I do think that at times i can be a little overwhelming. I made the decision to stay in my marriage and with that in mind i must also allow my marriage to breathe.

2. What happens if you trigger during this month, are you not supposed to talk to her about it?

I will either come here and vent or deal with it in silence. The theory is that if i cann hold out on my own it would better grid me for future triggers. There just seem to be so many at times.

3. Wouldn't that help bring the two of you closer together by working through it and not ignoring it?

In a perfect world made up of people like myself it would. We are all different and deal with things differently. Had she been 100% truthful with me at the start i don't think we would still be here today. I can understand a little of why from the perspective of the WS.

WS that are still in love with their BS are cursed in my opinion. They must live with the knowledge and fact that they betrayed not just their spouse but themselves. I believe that not all WS started out with the intent to betray their spouse. They made a drastic error that will haunt no only them but the person they chose above everyone else to share their lives with. It cannot be an easy burden to bare knowing that a lot of the pain you must endure is of your own making. I know the pain and hurt of being a BS to infidelity. I also know that since i am a man that is still terribly and deeply in love. That i would not want to be on the other side as a WS. Thay have their own cross to bare if they are truly remorseful of their actions.

Does it really do any good to plac more on their shoulders, thereby causing more stress to them and yourself?

Did she apologize to you for flipping out on you and hurting you with her affair?

She has apologized for the A. The flipping out was more recent so i doubt that it has crossed her mind as yet. Anyway, ii was almost expecting it considering recents events.

I just came back from buying a new mop. I'm gonna do the kitchen floor. Like yourself simplydevastated. Dirt doesn't stand a chance when i am stressed. At least it's a form of therapy.

[This message edited by Coma at 10:14 AM, May 9th (Thursday)]


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Default  Posted: 10:49 AM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

*** Posting as a member ***

The theory is that if i cann hold out on my own it would better grid me for future triggers.

If this is the mindset you are convinced you need to cling to, I'm going to back away and stop posting now.

I KNOW you're still in love, but this WS-curse you're talking about is secondary to the curse of the BS, and you are consciously sweeping your own pain, and healing, under the carpet.

Argue it from whatever angle you want, you are choosing to relinquish your right to have a partner who is compassionate to your pain because you don't want her to leave.

I'll be here for you if/when your "she's still not happy with me - what do I do?" post comes out and you are open to a new solution, but for now I'm getting a little blue in the face, and heart, and I have to step away from this particular thread.

[This message edited by Jrazz at 10:50 AM, May 9th (Thursday)]


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Coma
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Default  Posted: 10:52 AM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I was just thinking that a while ago i had an oppurtunity to sort of cripple the OM day at minimum. I had to go out of town to an area that was no far OM home. Keep in mind that most BS want a confrontation with the OP to make them pay in some way for being half of the infidelity. I had such a chance during that business trip.

OP had been stalking FWW and myself on the web even after it was over. Having his friends try to befriend us to open another avenue of contact. He felt so safe and sure of himself because he thought i had no way of getting to him and did not know any of his information. I had his place of business, home address,vehicle information, route to and from work, and picture. Iknew enough about him through investigation to be able to anticipate his whereabouts at a given time. So now here i was being sent to his home turf on business. What an oppurtunity for me huh.

I went to his place of business ans looked around the parking lot. Found his vehicle and took some pics. Iwas going to sit there and wait for it to appear. I had it all planned out.

So what happened in the long run?

Isatisfied myself with the car pictures and left because of two things. I made a promise to FWW that i would not go looking for him and i wa breaking my word right now.Second was that a mod here in SI and i had spoken and i told him my idea and situation at that time. He advised against it as well and even in denial i knew he was right in regards.

I did not go to be violent but who knows how that could have changed in the moment. What if i did hit this man and layed him out? Then get arrested for assault in another state. Having to be imprisoned and/or pay a fine and legal fees. This would in some ways have just given him more of a presence in my life than he should have had. I didn't want to do to my wife what had been done to me which is lie. I turned the car around and went back to my relative haouse where i had been staying. He was not worth any of the trouble i was setting myself up for.

So i guess i will have to be satisfied with the thought that i left him on the sidewalk with a broken nose. So to that mod that asked me to err on the side of caution and advised against me making an appearance.

Darn you Wifehad5 and thank you

I didn't go looking for trouble. I make no such promises if he should ever come my way.


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Coma
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Default  Posted: 11:04 AM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Argue it from whatever angle you want, you are choosing to relinquish your right to have a partner who is compassionate to your pain because you don't want her to leave.

No arguement from me Jrazz. We shall agree to disagree on this one. My pain and hers are not in competition with each other. I am gridding myself because i cannot continue to live like this and rightfully so. I will not allow this thing to dictate my life and the decisions i make cocerning my life. This is as much for me as it is for her. I need to elevate myself above this with or without her help or acknowledgement. I'm sorry you disagree but i am tired of being a slave to me emotions and it is time i learned to deal with it. Nothing is going to make it unhappen so best to just try to get it under control instead of being controlled by it.

I'll be here for you if/when your "she's still not happy with me - what do I do?" post comes out and you are open to a new solution, but for now I'm getting a little blue in the face, and heart, and I have to step away from this particular thread.

If that is what is to come then by all means slap me with a few "I told you so's'.
I will do what FWW didn't. I will own them fully with no one to blame but myself.

And thanks for being there in advance.


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Default  Posted: 11:06 AM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I really hope it doesn't come to that. I don't like I-told-you-so. I just want you to be healthy and happy. Good luck.

[This message edited by Jrazz at 11:07 AM, May 9th (Thursday)]


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Coma
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Default  Posted: 11:13 AM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I really hope it doesn't come to that. I don't like I-told-you-so. I just want you to be healthy and happy. Good luck.

As do i but i'm no longer leaving it to hope. I deserve to be loved as i love. The rest will fall into line or not.

You are rightrous Jrazz. Thanks


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Default  Posted: 11:15 AM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Nothing is going to make it unhappen so best to just try to get it under control instead of being controlled by it.

Coma, I've sat back from this thread to allow it some time to *take a direction* because you posted asking for *support*.

The best that I, personally, can offer is support for YOU. As a person. For you to find a way to end the *limbo* life it seems that you have been living in for the past few years and to find a way to the *other* side--away from the pain you feel.

However, I cannot support the method that you've chosen. Your plan doesn't seem to be a method to regain control of yourself, but a form of rugsweeping that will most likely just *kick* your current pain down the road for a bit. I'm just not *feeling* that she is truly remorseful. I understand that maybe you just need a *break* for a while, and that is just fine. But that should be done for YOU and not because you think that she 'deserves' it.


"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.


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Default  Posted: 11:40 AM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

However, I cannot support the method that you've chosen. Your plan doesn't seem to be a method to regain control of yourself, but a form of rugsweeping that will most likely just *kick* your current pain down the road for a bit. I'm just not *feeling* that she is truly remorseful. I understand that maybe you just need a *break* for a while, and that is just fine. But that should be done for YOU and not because you think that she 'deserves' it.

I chose this method because i cannot keep reacting to ny own discomfort regardless of whomever caused it. The person that caused it does not have to deal with it. I am the one it is affecting to the point that now i am the biggest threat to my marriage. I cannot keep holding onto the hurtful things and giving it power over the progress.

Yes, i think my FWW deserves a vacation from my bitternes over her infidelity.

Yes, i know that it will be dificult at first using this method.

No, it is not just for her benefit but my own and sanity.

I can't count on her to make everything allright. That falls to me and me alone. Some may see it as rug sweeping but see it as prepping myself to deal with myself. I'm not giving her any shorts but i'm also not going to keep starting over and over again.

I need to do this as badly as she needs the break. No more free floating radicals that decide to drop in on me whenever they decide i need to be tortured. I will now choose the path that is to be laid out before me. I feel that it has been long enough in the mines of despair.

I know others would disagree with my methods and that is why i came back to SI. It is not about support to where i was but to where i am going. It is not only about my marriage but about me.

In my next vent i will describe most of the ill i have even today about the A. And why i think carrying it with me will only make me worst.

I do appreciate your opinion Gonnabe2016. Divorce or marriage i am not going to carry this poison within me to affect my future.


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Default  Posted: 11:58 AM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Coma,

As I read this thread my heart started racing for you.

I, too, don't see this actually coming to full, and true, R. And I pray I am so wrong.

I was like you, I loved my H dearly. And as such he got to run the bus for the most part.

At 3-1/2 yrs out I hit the f'ng wall! I was done. I was done twisting myself around to fit his moods, and world. DONE!! Even tho I had 95% of the answers it wasn't enough. Even tho he kept claiming he was sorry, it wasn't enough.

I needed HIM to OWN IT ALL!!! I was ready to walk, which after being together 40 yrs was not an easy decision. He was at a point to "get it", and right then and there he finally agreed to MC. Now for 3 yrs it was "I am never going to MC again".

If it's been years for you and she is still blaming you, then you are still twisting in the wind my friend. And for that I am sorry.

Not talking about it? We all get that. But for a whole month, nada, no talking, no comfort from her, no reassurances? Stuffing it if you trigger? You are a much, much stronger person than I could ever be!

I hope, and pray, this coming month turns out like you hope.
You are the one who is still going to be doing all the work. She doesn't need to do a thing? Just you?

Sending YOU strength.


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Coma
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Default  Posted: 2:12 PM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

If it's been years for you and she is still blaming you, then you are still twisting in the wind my friend. And for that I am sorry.

Hey Suspicious

First thank you for your support. It has been years and it always will be. The blaming part is over except for a few minor details that i cannot go into at this point. I call them minor because she is not still blaming me but still being selfish in respects. She has come to SI before and made comments about the whiney BS that were unacceptable to me. I cannot forbid her from reading my post or the post of others but there is no way i will let her belittle someone else's pain. Be that the pain of a BS or WS. We have fought on this issue alone and greatly. I told her that is sacred ground and she will not make any further comments to me about anyone on SI. One such comment she made about another woman crying about her WS sent me over the edge. I partioned our computer and closed off her access to my log in. She was effectively cut off from this computer at least. nThat is a tale for some later date.

There have been things taking place here that ha changed the field enough for me to attempt this fix for myself. Some of it good and some more of the same mess.

Here the thing. She can't make it up to me. She can't take it back. And this has actually cost me more than it has cost her in the long run.I started the 180 a couple of months ago starting with financial equality. This then leaves that emotional support that people are commenting on. Yes. for one month i will have to depend on myself for that support regardless of her presence. It will also help to determine if her compassion has returned. Yes, it is within my right to ask for that compassion but i shouldn't have to at the most important times.

Yes, i know how much i can take with her at my side. Now it's how much i can take on my own. ON MY OWN! A very important piece of reclaiming yourself.

Anyway it has only been three days and i am doing allright. No triggers that were strong enough to send me into a slide. Trust me that if one comes you will know about it right here.


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Default  Posted: 4:36 PM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Coma, does your WW still read here?


"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.


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Coma
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Default  Posted: 5:13 PM, May 9th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Coma, does your WW still read here?

I have no idea but i seuspect that reading some of these stories upset her. She has read some before and her immediate reaction is to get angry.

Yes, there seems to be something going on there but i have not thought that through.


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Default  Posted: 8:10 AM, May 10th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I made the decision to stay in my marriage and with that in mind i must also allow my marriage to breathe.

This I do understand. I guess I'm just of the mindset that if the couple (in any situation) tackles their current issues, whatever that may be, together first and foremost then they put that to bed and then their marriage can breathe. I'm not sure if I explained myself properly.

Dealing with triggers silently is difficult. I've been there. My husband has never helped me through one of them. You will find a lot of support here to help with that.

Yes, cleaning is an excellent for of therapy.

I deserve to be loved as i love.

^^^^This is spot on! Please keep this thought in the front of your mind. Everyone deserves this.


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Default  Posted: 1:25 PM, May 10th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Trigger #1
Time: 8:32 p.m. EST
Cause: Money Dispute/OM Insulting Wife

I recall a letter that i read from OM to FWW. It had all the pleading and false promises of things to look forward too. Along with that letter came a pic of OM & his wife. I was able to reconstruct it with a program found on the web. His wife although along in years was quite lovely by age standards. What pissed me off is the way he beat up (however so gnetly) on her appearance to my FWW.

This has to be said my friends and meant to the core.

You Do Not Insult Your Wife To Anyone!!!

I know my FWW is beautiful and she has aged like the rest of us. The fact that she is the woman i chose to spend my life with is key. Her age shall forever be offset by my love for her. If this spineless coward had took a step back and deciced to look into the eyes of hes wife he would have seen the same woman he married long ago. How dare he use his wife as an excuse to cheat on her. I will tell you that in my opinion had i had the chance. My first slap of this (censored) would have been for this lovely woman that believes she married a person that would always put her first.

I have worked with some beautiful women bar none. As far as pure looks were concerned. I had nothing to compare them against except my FWW. It was a matter of the heart and the heart remembers what love envisions. My point is simple enough to understand.

Even in distraction the heart compares that which you see to that which you love. If it is not that way, then perhaps you convinced yourself of something else from the start. All i know is thathim belittling his own wife to chase some tail was in no way a form of any decent man.

FWW is coming up the stairs so i will end this until later........


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Default  Posted: 2:45 PM, May 10th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Today i sat FWW down and spoke about divorce. I don't want a divorce but i can't keep having flashbacks. It has been years trying to find our way back to each other and we have been really trying.
After a very heated exchange tonight. We are going to attempt an arrangement in the short term.
I cannot bring up anything about her A for one month. She says she needs this to find us again. I agree because sometimes i can be insensitive due to my own pain. Amonth is a long time to suffer alone with no one or place to vent at times. I think she also deserves it for her efforts.

Hi Coma:

In reading your first few sentences, it seems like you and your WW are taking a brief respite from each other. Is this correct?

During this "agreement" that you both made, will you still be living in the same house? Will you still be acting as husband and wife by sharing the household/financial responsibilities, spending quality time together, etc.?

When you stated you spoke about divorce, did that conversation lead to the both of you agreeing to separate (physically or emotionally for awhile) with divorce being a possible option after you thinking about what you want to do during this month?

If so, then, it's a little normal that you will have to deal w/the triggers and anything else you are going through alone. It could also be a good time to see if you really want to stay with your WW or not!

However, if you will be under the same roof, and will be operating as spouses normally would, I think it's important to keep the lines of communication open so that temptation for either of you will be kept to a minimal.

You don't want your WW thinking she has the green lights to do whatever she wants now. It seems like she wants life as she knew it before D-day but the fact of the matter is, no matter when you pick back up w/the conversation, you will still have a lot of emotions and issues to work through.


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Default  Posted: 2:54 PM, May 10th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I don't think it's your having to talk about the A that's the problem...it seems like your ability to do so effectively could be the problem.

What specifically angers you and gets you to the point of being so volatile with your WW that you can't deal with her? Is there a specific aspect of the A, conversation, etc that gets your temperature boiling to the point you are no longer effective in talking with your WW?

If so, it may not be the talking about the A that's the problem but you finding a way to deal w/your emotions regarding the A....what do you think you could do to deal with that? Maybe take a time out from a discussion when you feel your lid about to blow? This helps me and my and H sometimes...we back off each other when one or the other says they need a break bc we feel hurt or mad or upset...then we come back to the topic when emotions calm down...a few minutes later, a few hours later or even a few days to a week later...whatever is best.

Maybe you can go for a walk, drive during that time....whatever works for you but I think communication is so important during this time bc you don't want to convey to your WW that she has free reign right now.

Maybe you can write to each other and not talk in person and respond via text or email. This helped me and WH too. It gave us time to think about what we wanted to say and get our emotions in check.

Maybe during this breather, you can write out your feelings to your WW instead of talking and let her read them away from you (while at work or you are out and she can respond by writing as well).

Is your WW usually remorseful, cooperative, and sensitive to your feelings when you talk about the A?

If she calls the BS on the SI forum "whiney", how does she really feel about you? How does she behave when dealing with you?

Does she make you feel this way and is why you blow your lid when dealing with her?

[This message edited by h0pe4ul at 2:59 PM, May 10th (Friday)]


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I think I get what you are saying by trying to reclaim yourself because I have been there many times. It seems like you are trying to figure out during this time whether or not you even want to proceed with the M since you both spoke about divorce last night and are making this temporary arrangement.

It also seems like you are tired of your WW getting the satisfaction of seeing you lose yourself during the A discussions.

I get it!!!! It's not that you are trying to rugsweep...you are trying to get your wits about you so you can deal w/this situation with some dignity, even though no matter how you deal with it, it's a situation that sucks to no end and you may still go through many motions before ever really being able to talk about it without losing your cool

The pain is real. The betrayal is real. This is YOUR reality right now and your WW has to get used to dealing w/the new normal because things will never be what they were. You will never be able to go back to how things were before.....


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It seems like you are at a stage where the pain is still so unbearable that you can't really deal with your WW like you may need to because you are still too angry or hurt.

I think I hear you saying that your anger is still so much right now that it's being counterproductive because you can't get anywhere with your WW because of such.

I think I hear you saying you don't want to push your WW away even more by being the way that you are and is why you are trying to give that breather during this time. However, I think it's important that your WW knows that you still have boundaries in place that you expect her to respect during this month (NC with OP, being transparent, etc.) if you are going to go through w/this agreement. She needs to understand that you are not sweeping this thing under the rug and still expect what you expect from her while you try to figure out how to deal w/what you are going through personally.

For some people, the WS trying to be there for them when they are triggering or going through the motions makes them more angry..so, maybe it's best you take a breather for now but keep those boundaries in place so she will know it's not free ride time!

I think I get what you are saying and encourage you to try to find more effective ways of dealing with your emotions while not neglecting still working things through w/your WW.

Your WW kind of reminds me of my H reactions months ago when he got angry at my pain. I think it's because they are too afraid to face and own up to their own pain or even to really feel the mess they've caused, so it's easier to project on the BS instead...this is not right or acceptable in the least bit and you did well by letting your WW know she was wrong for making fun of the BS on this site.

Nevertheless, if YOU feel you need this time to learn how to deal with your own emotions, I say go for it.

I will be here for you during this time if you need someone to listen because I know this is not easy in the least bit.

I also believe that every person arrives at whatever stage they are going through after an A at their own pace and sometimes, may need to make a few mistakes before they get it right. Not saying you will fall from this but you will know soon enough whether or not this arrangement is working for you or not and if not, I encourage you to let your WW know ASAP that you need to make some changes to the agreement whether she likes it or not.

Don't be afraid to revise the agreement as you need to!

You're not alone!


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Default  Posted: 3:33 PM, May 10th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

ON MY OWN! A very important piece of reclaiming yourself.

Only you know your life. I feel that you recognize that somewhere along the way you lost yourself. I GET THAT!! I so lost myself always trying to do things so my kids and my family (well, not H ) would love me. H was the only one I could be me with, or so I thought.

Sorry, I disgress. My point is I am now getting to the "senior citizen" stage , and am now learning to reclaim myself.

So although I hate to see you have to "stuff it" for one month I understand doing "whatever" it is FOR yourself.

If I missed it I apologize but what is she going to be doing during this month? Being breezy-cheezy?

Still sending YOU strength.


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Default  Posted: 5:29 PM, May 10th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Trigger#1...Continued

Money Dispute:

It's bad enough that my trust was violated but then to find out that i was bankrolling the process in some way or form. I'm sure i'm not the only one to go through this unfortunately. I was think of getting her a ring she saw some time ago. Like other times i check my balnces before any major purchase. No worries because all is as it should be. Then i notice a charge on our card that seemed unusual. After asking her about it she confirmed the purchase. No worries again but that brought back triggers of a pre-paid phone she used to communicate with OM. She ha paid for the phone with money from our account and a number of reloads.

All in all my first trigger lasted about 2-3 hours and i dealt with it by claiming i was tired. I took some aspirin and took a little walk. I muttered to myself and returned home when my head stopped pounding.

I think she could tell that there was something wrong but i didn't give her enough time to recgonize the cause. I so much wanted to come and post here when i triggered but she was with me and that would have been against what i hope to accomplish.


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