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pecia
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Default  Posted: 11:40 AM, October 3rd (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

NEM,
He was at work last night, so we had to have a text conversation, but I told him I feel like for the first time in 7 yrs I am all-in with our marriage. For a long time I wasn't. I told him I understand that he believes I will cheat again and that I recognize that he may as well, or may already be. But I am going to risk it. Instead of trying to control him, I am going to control me. I gently reminding him that I know him (17 yrs and I am only 33). I am not some unsuspecting woman that he can fool. I know what he is capable of and I still love him. Good and bad. I acknowledged that we have hurt each other repeatedly, but that the love is still there. I know he isn't in a place to receive it yet, but I will wait for him. And I am going to love him with every broken piece of my heart (even if he crumbles it). I know there is the possiblity that what I say and do may not be able to make him stop what he is currently doing or prevent it in the future. But as a fWS I know that it is impossible to force someone to stop. He is going to have to want to. So I wait.


Me: 34 mad hatter
Him: 35 mad hatter
Married 17 yrs
Kids: 18 yo step-son
Me: EA 2006 - 2012 off and on.
Him: PA 2009 - 2010, prob more I don't know about.
Multiple D-days.

Posts: 17 | Registered: Sep 2012
pecia
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Default  Posted: 11:47 PM, October 3rd (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

So, today was totally opposite of yesterday (yesterday we snuggled in bed when he woke up -he works nights- had sex and he kissed me before he left for work). Today my H hates me. He says there is no hope of saving it. He wants a divorce. He called me a whore (and several other nasty sexual comments concerning my EA partner). I also finished "not just friends" today. I just have this sinking feeling that he is refusing to try and reconcile because he is currently engaged in an A (unconfirmed but highly suspect - perhaps with 3 separate women). Idk if he is feeling ashamed and would rather lose me than to have me find out, or if he really wants me gone. He just keeps saying I am the one who chose someone else, and now I have to live with it. It is all so confusing. I am totally reinvested in saving the M and it kills me to think he is quitting on me. I just keep apologizing for my actions. I try to remind him that I understand his feelings of hurt because he betrayed me too. He claims his was different because he stopped his on his own. I fail to see the difference. I stopped mine on my own too, it just happened to be after he discovered it. It is totally unhealthy to say this, but if he just would stop right now - whatever he is doing - I would stay. What misery.


Me: 34 mad hatter
Him: 35 mad hatter
Married 17 yrs
Kids: 18 yo step-son
Me: EA 2006 - 2012 off and on.
Him: PA 2009 - 2010, prob more I don't know about.
Multiple D-days.

Posts: 17 | Registered: Sep 2012
NothngElseMattrs
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Default  Posted: 7:15 AM, October 4th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hey Pecia-

So the thing with being madhatters is the dynamic can often turn out that one identifies more as a BS than the other. And if you keep apologizing and taking on the mantle of WS, it feeds into him justifying and minimizing his A(s). He is guilty too here. Don't forget that. You can't R if he doesn't own his $h!t too. No matter how bad you want the M, it isn't going to work if he isn't all in, too.

He just keeps saying I am the one who chose someone else, and now I have to live with it.

This is what him not owning his A's looks like. He's dumping the blame on you. There are many BS on SI that never have an RA or just an A in general. So being a BS is NOTNOTNOT an excuse to have an A. If he is so sure the M is over, he needs to go to the courthouse and file D. Then he can carry on with whatever garbage he is doing. Does he say why he hasn't filed D yet if he's so sure he's done with you?
yesterday we snuggled in bed when he woke up -he works nights- had sex and he kissed me before he left for work

Today my H hates me. He says there is no hope of saving it. He wants a divorce. He called me a whore


Gently, you can't love him back into your M. Why are you tolerating this? Why have sex with him and then let him trash you like this the next day? If he is sweet tonight or tomorrow are you going to have sex with him again? It is likely you can expect a subsequent day of him throwing D in your face and calling you names before he goes off to work to carry on with his AP coworkers.
if he just would stop right now - whatever he is doing - I would stay.

How long are you going to stay and wait? Forever? That's a long time to live like this.

((pecia)) hang in there, hon. Are you in IC? Are you covering healthy self-care and stuff like that? I think it might be helpful to you.


"Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?"

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Undefinabl3
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Default  Posted: 8:45 AM, October 4th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The mood swings are the worst.

I am in the middle of serious husband mood swings as well - I would consider us both madhatters as well since our pasts and currents include infidelity on both sides.

I could tell you up one way and down another that you can not take this crap from him. That you alone can not save this marriage, and that by holding on you are only hurting yourself.

But its so much harder said then done.

You will get to a point where your bullshit tank is full and you finally see your life from the outside looking in.

Stay here, be supported by those that know what you are going through, and when the time comes we will be here to support you on that too.


Me: 31 MH
Him: 37 MH
~Some days are better then others~

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pecia
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Default  Posted: 2:02 PM, October 4th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

So I had a couple of epiphany's about 3 am. I have finally found proof that he did have an affair in April (which prompted my renewed contact with my EA). He had claimed it was a male and he was just seeing if I was checking up on him. He said he had been sworn to secrecy about who it was because the guy was cheating on his wife. I called bullshit on that. But he persists that I am wrong which makes my EA all the worse. Last night I finally found the girls fb profile. The pictures match the person I saw in April. And her husband is owner of the cell phone number. It is alot to digest. Add this to the other 2 women and I am a mess. Throw a little mental illness on there and ta-da! you have my life. I have said for years that he has borderline personality disorder. I am reading a book on it now and he fits it so perfect. It explains why he is always so hateful to me (he is mad at himself). He has always said that one day I would leave him (fear of abandonment). And he keeps doing things to sabotage our relationship (risky behaviors, cheating). He has serious anger issues and used to be a self-mutilator. I have quite the mess on my hands. I do love him. I guess I am just going to hold my tongue and see how all of this plays out.


Me: 34 mad hatter
Him: 35 mad hatter
Married 17 yrs
Kids: 18 yo step-son
Me: EA 2006 - 2012 off and on.
Him: PA 2009 - 2010, prob more I don't know about.
Multiple D-days.

Posts: 17 | Registered: Sep 2012
pecia
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Default  Posted: 6:12 AM, October 7th (Sunday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Just a little update on my day yesterday. Friday night my husband and I had a good day. Some sex, some post sex snuggles. Then he had to go out that night because it was a friend of his birthday (true, I know the guy). I didn't really want him to go but I didn't argue about it. He said he would rather stay home blah blah blah. He left about 9:30pm. I had to go to bed for work on Sat anyway. I could not sleep. I texted him periodically until about 11:30 when I finally dozed off. I woke up abruptly at 4am and noticed he was not home. I knew in my heart where he was. His "friend" that he was so defensive about texting a month ago (the new, single female cop). Luckily I had her address. So I left for work early. I texted him asking where he was. I arrived at her apartment and there was his truck. I knocked and got no answer. Eventually he texted me back and said he had too much to drink and was coming home now. I told him I was looking at his truck and to come out. After several back and forth messages he came out after I promised not to make a scene. I noticed he didn't have his wedding ring on (he did when he left that night). I pointed it out and he said he stopped wearing it months ago. BULLSHIT. He said he didn't fuck her (there I am over-reacting AGAIN). Later while I was at work he reiterated that he cannot forgive me for my affair and he is moving in with a friend for a while. I drew my line in the sand. I told him I can forgive everything until now. We can work on us. He said it is too far gone and that he is going to move in with a friend. He was still here when I got home last night but it looks like he is making plans to leave. I just don't know how to feel.


Me: 34 mad hatter
Him: 35 mad hatter
Married 17 yrs
Kids: 18 yo step-son
Me: EA 2006 - 2012 off and on.
Him: PA 2009 - 2010, prob more I don't know about.
Multiple D-days.

Posts: 17 | Registered: Sep 2012
NothngElseMattrs
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Default  Posted: 9:50 AM, October 7th (Sunday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What a lying asshole. He definitely slept with her, otherwise why was he able to drive to her house without his ring and not home.

They say people show you who they are. I think he is showing you who he is and what he wants.


"Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?"

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pecia
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Default  Posted: 10:47 AM, October 7th (Sunday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

NEM, oh yeah. and it is quite obviously not me. I have decided that I cannot fix it all by myself. If he wants to leave than he can go. I am capable of supporting myself. All of the other women can have him. He can see if they hanf around for 17 yrs after he shows his true colors.


Me: 34 mad hatter
Him: 35 mad hatter
Married 17 yrs
Kids: 18 yo step-son
Me: EA 2006 - 2012 off and on.
Him: PA 2009 - 2010, prob more I don't know about.
Multiple D-days.

Posts: 17 | Registered: Sep 2012
NothngElseMattrs
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Default  Posted: 11:12 AM, October 7th (Sunday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

it is quite obviously not me

Right you are! I'm sure it doesn't make your pain any less, but I'm glad you can see this.

You deserve to be with someone who will have sex with you, be sweet and cuddle and then not go run off to see who else he can have sex with in the same 24 hours. Seriously it is not too much to ask.

Also, gently, you should consider going to get tested. I'd bet he's been up to this for a while. Plus I bet the "new single girl cop" probably has plenty of guys after her and plenty of opportunities to get around. Especially if she's okay with hooking up with a married coworker. I can't remember if I've suggested this to you before, so if I'm a broken record, mea culpa.

((pecia)) this too shall pass. You sound like you can be strong and independent and take charge of your own life and your own healing. You will be ok. And in the meantime, we're here for you on SI!


"Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?"

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tired girl
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Default  Posted: 11:13 AM, October 7th (Sunday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Pecia,

How are you doing? It is really hard when we are smacked in the face with the reality of what our lives are.

Big hugs to you today.

Have you read up on the 180 in the healing library? If you haven't I would suggest it to you, it will be your best friend in the upcoming weeks as he will probably continue to gaslight and blameshift with you.

The best thing you can do is continue to focus on you and your healing. Figure out why you gave yourself permission to do this in your marriage, fix yourself. Become a safe person that has boundaries. What he does at this point is not something you can control. You are the only person that you can control.

This will be a difficult thing to remember in the upcoming weeks. I wish you strength and wisdom. Remember, come here often, we are here to offer support and to listen.


Me43 Him 43 Hardlessons DS 24,22,20
D Day 1/18/10 his 3/8/2012 mine
Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth”
― Pema Chödrön

Posts: 3663 | Registered: Mar 2010 | From: az
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Default  Posted: 12:58 PM, October 8th (Monday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I feel like as a madhatter we have so very few places that we can post, and we have extra rules to follow.

I will agree that my response looked more like i was framing a house then not, but i was ticked off and i was really taken aback by how little people feel for the rest of the people on the board.

as a fWS i can relate to her fog - as a BS, i can relate to his pain.

Why are we as MadHatters not more useful since we see the world from both sides?

I cant post in JFO - even though i did.

I cant post as a stop sign in Wayward - even though i am.

I can't post my BS view on Wayward, even though its useful.

And my WS side is relavent, but doesnt seem to fit in many places.

And to top it off, technically i AM with my EAP - so now my credibility and my story is a trigger for pretty much everyone on the board.

I really dont feel like i fit in anywhere


Me: 31 MH
Him: 37 MH
~Some days are better then others~

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tired girl
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Default  Posted: 2:38 PM, October 8th (Monday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The wayward forum is a protected forum, just like JFO is. You can't go in there and swing 2x4's. If you want to go in there and try to help her along as a fellow wayward then that is accepted. That forum is there for a reason and is protected for a reason. A lot of waywards come in foggy, and if a BS comes in and starts wacking them over the head, they are likely to leave and not stay and work on their shit.

Fellow waywards often understand this process and will help them along. That is why a madhatter has to put on their WS hat when in that forum. If the wayward forum is to triggery for you right now, it might not be a good place for you. I had to stay out of it myself for awhile, as I wanted to whack everyone over the head.

General was tough, I stayed in recon for quite awhile. This thread is good if it is active. Your right, this is a tough situation. Honestly, I have found for me, my WS side suits me best. It is where I did all my growing. I don't like the BS side of things. That is just for me though.


Me43 Him 43 Hardlessons DS 24,22,20
D Day 1/18/10 his 3/8/2012 mine
Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth”
― Pema Chödrön

Posts: 3663 | Registered: Mar 2010 | From: az
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Default  Posted: 6:48 AM, October 9th (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

well my gut feeling for the last year finally showed itself to be true sunday morning. The wife and i had been doing good working on things , us , feelings, general state of relationship...i had had concerns over her spending time with what i thought was a toxic friend - she had agreed that her friend female was toxic and started to hangout with new healthy friends - these are females i know she has worked with in the past- so she started going over to there housess for girls nights the last couple of months - i encouraged this as i saw it a sighn of a supportive non jealous husband - not chump - like i feel like now...anyhow
sat night she got a call from one of these friends to come over - i was cool tho a bit curious - she had just groomed herself up for what i thought was a night together just us - i said nothing tho and kept my suspisions at bay. but then again like every time she goes out with the girls - she stays there cause we have no car and cab is too much (no buses at the late hour)...and like before her iphone dies or she has a hard time getting emails...i had gone to be early that night and decided to go into work on the weekend - i left later than my stated email time and was waiting at the bus stop when i see my wife pull up a block away and hop out of a vehicle and run into the gas station for coffee she didn't see me at the bus stop and was quite shocked and panicky to see me at the gas station - she didn't know that i saw here get out of said vehicle that had another man driving...long story short she sent an email saying sorry - no mention of the driver - she first claimed it was her friend..then another email saying its a man but then a long excuse of how her friends husband came home and needed the car for the day and her friend got called into work - so he dropped his wife off first and then my wife - o0n a corner by a gas station a block and half from our house...there was an embrace before she got out-i told her she has one more email to send ...im going to be having the talk with her tonight...

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Default  Posted: 7:00 AM, October 9th (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Intransit, I'm unfamiliar with your backstory. I'm assuming since you're posting in the madhatter thread you had an A some time ago and now your W has participated in suspicious behavior?

Assuming I guessed right, I have a couple questions...
How has your communication been in your M? Are y'all in counseling? Do you have kids? Are you connecting? It doesn't seem like it in your post but I don't want to make assumptions.


"Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?"

Posts: 496 | Registered: Jun 2012 | From: The wind before the storm
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Default  Posted: 7:41 AM, October 9th (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Undefinabl3,

I think being a madhatter is a part of traveling down a tough road. Yet it offers those who travel down this road a unique perspective. I know at times it feels like our “kind” isn’t welcome. Many times I’ve read some threads where there is either pity thrown at us or straight up moral indignation. I must admit when I heard the term when I came here last year, I didn’t know what to make of being a madhatter. While I didn’t have an opinion one way or another, I was very high and mighty about my status as a BS. I always used the “but I didn’t cheat trump card” against my husband and even some of the WS’s I saw on this board. I started to see things from a black and white perspective. WS=Evil. BS=Good.

I know I see this on this board from time to time and it makes me feel queasy. It’s too easy to see things in such terms. As for the posting in the different forums, you have to realize as long as you get your story out, share what you’ve learned through trial and error, embrace the successes and remember to do the work; you are paying it forward in innumerable ways. Therefore, it matters not if you post in General, Recon, or as a Wayward w/o a stop sign. It takes guts to embrace the the darkest parts of who we are and look to grow from it.

I also have to agree with tired girl about focusing on the WS part of yourself. I’ve found myself digging more when I think of being a WS vs being a BS. I found for me personally being a BS allowed me to see myself as invincible and the ultimate victim/martyr. I very much equated being a BS with being the “good one.” While I felt this way about myself, I don’t want anyone to see this as me saying all BS’s see themselves in such a light. However, I know I became like Icarus flying to close to the sun and falling down to earth so hard that it jolted me into waking up to see who I was becoming. So keep posting here and in the appropriate places. Don’t be discouraged by the label.


((intransit)) Sorry you find yourself in such a situation. I hope the talk went well though I suspect if she’s going to want to listen and hear anything you say right now. I remember those times too well as a BS and a WS. Please let us know how everything goes.


An affair isn't like taking pottery ... they always end disastrously...and it's the one thing in my life I would undo if I could-- from the movie, Unfaithful.

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Default  Posted: 7:50 AM, October 9th (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I agree with TG and archer, I think I do the most/best individual work on myself as a WS. Admittedly I do still struggle. As for work on my M, we are trying to forge a new path living genuinely. Now that my H's addiction is no longer a secret, he is working on it and I am working on not being a co-addict. We are learning the significance of not being able to control the other and being responsible only for our own choices. It's actually really liberating but it takes practice and we do still have moments of slipping into old ways.


"Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?"

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Default  Posted: 12:00 PM, October 9th (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Secondly, I think if I hadn't have experienced those strong emotionahl feels for my friend during the EA - I would have likely not tolerated any of my FWH's withdrawal of his last AP who he was "in love" with. I really think I would have kicked him out so fast. But because of my own experience - I knew it wasn't that easy to turn the emotional switch off.

It's the opposite here. My H had an affair which involved ILU's, constant contact, soulmates shmoopies -- the whole bit. He ended his affair on his own and didn't have withdrawal -- he says he didn't and I didn't see any. He wanted her to leave him alone.

Me, OTOH, I didn't think I had an EA with a friend. I didn't feel I was 'in love'. We didn't have obsessive contact. Yet, I've experienced some sadness with NC -- not intense withdrawal like breaking an addiction. I still miss him in some ways, even though he was no friend of my marriage.

If my H had went through withdrawal I wouldn't have been understanding about it. If he told me he missed his AP or thought of her as even a human I would lose my shit.

-- I feel like a hypocrite. Clearly I'm not identifying enough with my inner W.

and explaining that I thought I was in an EA 20 years ago. He kind of just poo poo'd it because it wasn't a real "A" like his....

My H does this too. I don't think he can face the pain of it and since his affair was so much 'worse' --there's that comparison again -- he won't recognize it. Also, I think he's not pushed because he thought I couldn't handle dealing with being a BS and WS at the same time. Too much to process and honestly, I don't think I was ready.

Now I need to move forward by starting to focus on my past boundary crossings, if not EA's.


Growing forward

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Default  Posted: 12:21 PM, October 9th (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

But because of my own experience - I knew it wasn't that easy to turn the emotional switch off.

and this is why I am shaky about my fWH working two blocks away from his AP.

Our marriage didn't improve after my own A until OM moved away. And there was NC up to then...


his Ddays: 2/10, 7/11
my Ddays: 1/12, 4/12 broken NC 12/12

me: 47
him: 51
4 kiddos in lower 20's

“Courage is the price that life exacts for granting peace."


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pecia
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Default  Posted: 6:50 PM, October 9th (Tuesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well, I am hanging in there. Sometimes I surprise even myself. The latest and greatest in my world is that he got in my computer and read all of my private journal entries. I don't so much care, but they were unedited for him. He said he has to pry the truth out of me. I am amused by this since he is incapable of truth telling, but ok. I am glad he got a little dose of my feelings. We called a truce yesterday. We laid around and watched tv, interrupted by good sex. We both agree that if all of our marriage was as easy as sex, we would be great.
NEM, what is involved in being a sex addict? I am sure my H has BPD, which has a sex component to it (dispells their emptiness/lonliness). Makes me wonder if he is a SA too. I just don't know. Today, I sent him a text and he said that our truce was just for 1 day. Checked his phone bill, and I think the girl (the one where I caught him at her apt on Sat.) has kinda petered out. Just a couple of messages. The other girl is still texting him (so I blocked her number unbeknowst to him) just to see if he would text me then, and low and behold now he wants to chat with me. Interesting....... I think he is torn between what to do. Otherwise, he would have filed for divorce by now.
Tired girl,
Thanks for your support. :) I have somewhat nipped the gaslighting in the bud. I laid out my boundaries. No name calling, no emotional abuse. I am done with that. If the situation escalates, I stop it. Also, I looked for the 180 on the healing library, I have read just about every article on there. Anything specific I need to be learning? And I am going to go get checked for STD's just in case. Its that time of year for "that" visit anyway.
Rachelc,
I am sorry that you are anxious about fWH working near his OW. My husband works with (apparently) his admitted PA, and the other 3 (atleast 2 probable PA, and one EA). It makes me twitch every time he leaves the house for work or otherwise. I think that the anxiety will wear off as time goes by. It did for me the first time I caught him cheating. Obviously there will always be trust issues. I wish we could move far away (which isn't possible for me). What a shitty place we all are in. Gotta smile to keep from screaming. Hang in there everyone. Thanks for listening.


Me: 34 mad hatter
Him: 35 mad hatter
Married 17 yrs
Kids: 18 yo step-son
Me: EA 2006 - 2012 off and on.
Him: PA 2009 - 2010, prob more I don't know about.
Multiple D-days.

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Default  Posted: 7:47 AM, October 10th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Pecia- check out the Spouses of Sex Addicts thread (link below). They cover a lot of resources on the first page that can help you see if you think your H is a Sex Addict.
http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp?tid=459628

LOL @ you blocking her # haha That's awesome. Way to go, it shows him you aren't going to just languish and wait for hm to start doing the right things (stopping his A's!!!)

If he is torn about what to do, he needs to sort that out, stat. It's going to keep hurting you and hurting you to see that he isn't saying "No brainer, Pecia, you're my #1!" How long are you willing to wait and settle for #2 or a tie for #1?

(((pecia)))


"Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?"

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