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User Topic: Long Term Affair - Part 27
Laura28
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Default  Posted: 1:35 AM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi NJ

SA is.... anyone who puts his/her health, marriage, family, career, etc, at risk for their sexual pursuits. Someone who knows that the behavior is wrong and destructive and yet cannot seem to stop the behavior.

Yep. Sounds likes my FWH.

“engaging in persistent and escalating patterns of sexual behavior acted out despite increasing negative consequences to self and others.”

Not sure about this part. You see I never caught him!!! (Except when he gaslighted me 23 yrs ago) So there were no increasing negative consequences for him. However I think in retrospect there were for me. He became increasingly hard to live with. However, he blamed me for EVERYTHING so I suppose he never saw negative consequences in what he was doing.

The odd thing is that I feel we are getting on better than ever. Yet I haven't changed!! If anything I am the one who is "difficult" now. I won't take any shit - unlike before when I tried to smooth over the bumps!!!! I think this is where my rage keeps coming from. He was an arsehole, I bit my tongue - to "keep the peace" esp when the kids were still at home. I didn't want them to live in a hostile/conflict filled environment. (Even though my DD at the wise age of 13 said "He's a dickhead mum. I don't know why you married him. Why don't you leave him???? - out of the mouths of babes!

anyway rambling here....

“compulsive searching for multiple partners, compulsive fixation on an unattainable partner, compulsive masturbation, compulsive love relationships and compulsive sexuality in a relationship.”

Maybe?????? Don't know. He doesn't talk about his feelings enough. His response is always "It was just the sex. I was stupid". Hmmmmmmm.

Anyway. FWH is going for his FIRST EVER IC right at this minute. YAY!!!!!!

Hope she knows what she's doing!!!

Will be interesting to see what he says (if anything) when he gets home.

WYE

I think these (F)WSs lose a few brain cells along will screwing around. Constantly fooling your conscience, lying and sneaking around must contribute to some sort of brain damage!!!!!!

Sorry honey. Just chalk it up to one of those fucktard things they do.

HUGS to all

Laura


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

Posts: 2729 | Registered: Jul 2010 | From: Australia
Laura28
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Default  Posted: 4:52 AM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi all

Well he came home from IC and said it was really good. Said he was a little nervous but told her everything.

I kept saying you don't have to tell me what you discussed but he wanted to talk. Didn't tell me anything new. Really didn't tell me much but that's OK. He said he really liked being able to talk to someone. I have been wanting him to do this for 16 months!!!!

He then said she wants to see us both. I said "never going to happen. I want you to feel safe talking to her and not worry she will let something slip later that may bother you."

Was that the right thing to do? We have have very little experience with IC and I am not sure. I had one session with an IC after my DS was diagnosed with his illness and found it useless. I did find the 7 sessions of EMDR very helpful. FWH has never seen an IC before today.

So.. Hopefully this is progress. I actually said to him today that after seeing the IC he might want to leave me. He was horrified and said no way.

Thing is I really want him to be sure in his own mind that he does want to stay. I don't want him if he doesn't want me.

Weird or what???

I have recently heard that there is a guy in town who is quite a good MC. I think it might be best if we see him together.

So maybe that's the next step. I do want to be patient and let FWH have a number of sessions with this IC first.

Any advice???

HUGS to all

Laura


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

Posts: 2729 | Registered: Jul 2010 | From: Australia
trynhard
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Default  Posted: 6:18 AM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

IC save our M. I went several times after dday and the man did convince me that some M are stronger after infidelity. He had never IC a person where a 8 year A happened so I bet he is wondering if we are still M. My W said he was trying to tell her to D me. I think he was trying to force her to make a choice she would be happy with. Of course, my W knows it all so she didn't need it. IC was for me anyway. I was trying to discover the truth about life. He was just one piece of the puzzle I hated when I watched the IC look at the clock above my head.

My second IC was sweet Louise. She was great. She was the one who said Retrouvaille would be good for me. She had me read the 5 languages of love. She help me cope with anger toward OM. She would spend whatever time I needed and always had a couple of hour for me.

My advice? I think IC is good for you and never say never!

Oh yeh... The truth about life? It's turns out to be pretty simple. Life is a mystery


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Laura28
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Default  Posted: 6:56 AM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi Tryn

Thanks for your thoughts. When I read

My advice? I think IC is good for you and never say never!

I thought "what's that old goat on about?"

Until I realised I hadn't finished my post.

Realised I didn't finish the post. I'm the silly one.

What I meant was I don't want to spoil the experience for him.

What I would like is after he has been to IC for a while, maybe I will see my own IC and then us both to see an MC. But I think we need to see someone entirely different.

I am not comfortable with seeing the same person as he sees for IC.

My concern is that if he thinks that later we will both see her he will clam up with her. He needs to be honest with her if she is going to be able to help him. KWIM??

Anyway

Late here. 11pm. Must get to bed.

HUGS to all

Laura

[This message edited by Laura28 at 7:23 AM, October 12th (Wednesday)]


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

Posts: 2729 | Registered: Jul 2010 | From: Australia
trynhard
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Default  Posted: 8:55 AM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Laura,

for me, IC is help for yourself. Either you want it or not. I never forced my W to go. It was always her choice. I may have said thinks like, "Maybe you need an IC to help you figure out what is a M relationship, a commitment, a healthy relationship is suppose to be. Why you have not willpower" My W would always respond she knows. She knows it was selfishness. She may know, but never had the "power" to control her actions.

I can relate to having no power. One example is eating and dieting. Put a krispy Kreme in front of my face, I will gobble it up.


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UKgirl
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Default  Posted: 10:02 AM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Tryn’ – I decided that the phone number was really bothering me, so I sent off to one of those companies you suggested. The payment was through paypal, so I’m hoping that makes them bonafide. A friend of mine seems to think so. So now I wait. And hope I haven’t been mugged. No personal details, not even an email address was required. The number to be investigated and payment. Still, they can only have the money once – can’t they?

(((((Godsgirl))))) there’s not much I can add to what has already been said. It certainly sounds like a case of SA, but please remember that none of this is your fault. Keep doing things to try and lift your mood – physical exercise is great for this and study can be a great distraction. You are lovely just as you are – please don’t think otherwise.

I can imagine how fun it was for FWW to be travelling with OM as he bought her 1st class upgrades, took her to meals, and spent the evenings (and some nights) with her.
Ats, WH mostly took MOW to hotels while on his business trips. I have those same feelings when I’m packing up to go off on my own for a few days, imagining how it was that he knew he was packing to meet her, have dinner, go out, have sex, spend the night with her, breakfast in the morning, goodbye in the carpark and going their separate ways. I hate hotels.

FWH had sex with OW3 on the Friday and Saturday night and then when I arrived home on the Sunday night did me too!!! It is horrifying to know this. How sick is that!!!
Well, Laura, fWH said to me (in those early post d-day weeks when I believed him……) that he would stay away an extra night to “give distance”. No he fucking well didn’t!!! And yeh, it made me mad as hell when I realised he would have her as his pleasure and then me as his right. Does my head in too. And I think your thoughts on your marriage are valid and I can relate to a lot of it. Unfortunately.

As for the IC, there is no reason to not use the same counsellor if it feels right. I think I’d be inclined to wait a bit and then go for an “interview” session. If she’s professional about it, she won’t let anything “slip”, but seeing both of you will give her an insight into the dynamics of your marriage. So go for it.

fWH and I had a “chat” at the weekend about the business visit to M*H* (seems ages ago now) and the kissy text and him hiding stuff. I won’t go on about it here, but he seemed to get how I felt when I suggested he stood in my shoes for a bit. I told him he cannot hide stuff from me anymore because when I find out (and there is always the chance I will now I’ve had the blinkers removed) it will be so much worse. And that the trust had evaporated because of what he had done. Whether there was anything to it or not was irrelevant, he didn’t tell me and I reckoned there were other things he hasn’t told me about too. His reply? There wasn’t anything else for me to find. My retort: you don’t expect me to believe that, do you? And so we are muddling. And I am hoping the phone investigators are going to come up with a name.


D-Day: 30 July 2006 LTA: 5yrs
Me, BS, 56 y/o Him, WS, 57 y/o
MOW, pathetic ex-fiancee.
3 grown boys and one 18 y/o
I don't consider myself married anymore.
There are some words once spoken split the world in two. Before you say them and after.

Posts: 3328 | Registered: Nov 2007 | From: UK
worst-year-ever
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Default  Posted: 12:17 PM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yep....I'm officially entering the anger stage.

How dare he do this to me?

How long did it last for you all?

I just want to kick him in the face.


Me: BW
Him: FWH
4 kids & 20 years together
DD: 7/7/11
OW1: 3yr+ LTA
OW2: My xBFF
Trying to R

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m334455
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Default  Posted: 12:23 PM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

WYE - the anger stage lasted a very long time for me. I would say at least 9 months. Sometimes I still feel angry, though usually more about my WH's non-A related douchebag behaviors.

Hey Nell -- good for you!


BW 38, 5 kids
Dday Dec. 2009

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worst-year-ever
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Default  Posted: 12:35 PM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The thing that is really pissing me off right now is that he only stopped because he got caught.

Of course, he swears he loved me the whole time, never wanted to be with her....whatever. He only stopped seeing her when I caught him with the second OW!

Then he took that one underground until I caught him in it too! Lying ass.

He had no intention of stopping.


Me: BW
Him: FWH
4 kids & 20 years together
DD: 7/7/11
OW1: 3yr+ LTA
OW2: My xBFF
Trying to R

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trynhard
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Default  Posted: 12:57 PM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

WYE...
only stopped because he got caught

Yep, Love and sex causes all kinds of chemicals to be released in your brain. These are very hard to resist. This is why once you first cross that line you are done. "once a cheater, always a cheater".. until you get caught. It takes seeing the pain of others to have enough willpower to stop and change. And then some people are sociopaths. Those people just don't care nor ever will.

I "lost it" 7 months post dday by to yelling at my W in our driveway for EVERYONE to hear. Then I took her and slammed her into the car causing her to fall back and hit a shelf with all kinds of tin cans to hit the ground. The noise was terrible. It all happened quick and my neighbor friend came over to see if he could help. He told me they made all the kid go inside. It was NOT a good day for me or my W. She ended up with a 2" bruse on her arm. I should have gone to jail. That was a turning point for me. I now was the one feeling the guilt. I was truly out of my mind.

Yesterday here in Indy, a man murdered his W and then shot himself. The Psychologists in the new report say people lose thier minds during marital destress. No Kidding Shurlock, after what I went though. I cannot think anything but infidelity in this case.

Don't shoot him WYE!


UK.. I think you are safe with paypal. Paypal must be started by you. It's safe. I hope it's a good answer and just a company of some sort. If it is one of those pay-as-you-go cell telephones... Hummm? Even if you don't get a result, it is money well spent. What did the charge you?

[This message edited by trynhard at 1:03 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)]


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ImNellNow
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Default  Posted: 2:46 PM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

WYE,
Anger. My old friend. I was in the anger stage for a very long time. At first, it powered me enough to get stuff done. Then, at some point, (more than a year after DDay#1) I realized that the anger wasn't helpful to me any longer and I did EMDR therapy to learn how to get beyond it. I think anger is fine for a while, as long as you are not abusing yourself or others. (And, FWIW, I am about the nicest, most even-tempered sweetie-pie you will ever meet, but I smacked my WH a couple of times, screamed some horrible things in his face, and had to repair drywall after pitching every solid object I could get my hands on. Not proud of any of that but there it is.)

Thanks, m3. WH got a job offer, hasn't decided whether he will accept... I freaked out just a little because now the plan to D is REAL and HERE. Then settled back down again relatively quickly. So there ya go.

Hugs all around. Nell out.


BS & D
Drinking wine and thinking bliss is on the other side of this.

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njgal480
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Default  Posted: 6:46 PM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

WYE-
I think we all went through anger stages....I was on an emotional roller coaster for at least 4 yrs.Fine one day, crazy the next, totally depressed another day....
Tryin... I had a few episodes like you described. One was in the garage also.
The screaming was unbelievable. I know all of the neighbors heard me....
And the throwing of objects, slamming doors, breaking glass...you name it.
And... I was never like this...ever... finding out about the infidelity definitely unhinged me.

No one can understand the pain of this betrayal until they have lived through it themselves.

Laura- How great that your husband went to IC!
I tend to agree with you that you should not share the same IC with your husband.
She might call you in one time for a session to get your side of the story etc.
But it should be a place where he feels comfortable sharing his thoughts.

If you need it later...you can find another therapist for MC for the two of you as a couple.


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


Posts: 3139 | Registered: Jul 2009 | From: NJ
iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 9:53 PM, October 12th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

laura:

going to ic with him:

unless i misunderstood...i think you going is FOR him and not for you or both of you although helping him does help both of you....convuluted i kno...anyways....it will probably give her a good looksee into the dynamics of your relationship, how he reacts to you, how he talks with you present, body language between you and of course getting to hear your side of things.....it can all serve to help complete her picture of who he is in his world in the present tense


as for pfm being sa...not....he may have had many relationships, but he was careful, he was really good at lying and for him it was just the way it was, the way it always was...he was the om before he was ever in a committed relationship with me or anyone else for that matter,...and he just opted not to change that....

his foo dynamics gave him the rest of the pushes he needed to move forward in other persuits....and the fact that i was a very strong willed individual left him feeling quite powerless even though through manipulation he ran quite a bit of the show....anyways i could go on and on...there is no addiction

pfm also tried to play that card, the sa card, i nixed it immediately because i knew it wasnt, and his ic also does not believe it either....


imo, sa is highly over diagnosed, i also think that the parameters are way to vague....for many, they cheat simply because they can, and they feel invincible...like tiger woods...he's not sa either...but he most assuredly believed he was invincible, he had ample opportunity and when its freely available there are not too many men who will remain true...look at rock stars...women throw themselves at them....its a huge ego boost, not to mention the thrill at doing it and seeing if you can get away with it...adolescent behavior in an adult basically.....and of course there are no boundaries or rather the boundaries are pushed as far as the pusher deems safe to do so without exposure..most adolescents do this in a rebellion phase, i know i did...and i know pfm never did, he appeared to never disobey his parents and he never had those teen years of pushing the limits and doing things he should not be doin....he did it instead as an adult and then never stopped, and he never stopped because of the foo issues and he never got caught....


found out that last grade today, 101% (there was extra credit), 94% without the extra credit...i think i got an a in this course too...so yay, 2 courses down and i did very well in both...


(((tribe)))


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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UKgirl
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Default  Posted: 5:00 AM, October 13th (Thursday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Tryn’
- £125. It’s through paypal, so fingers crossed. I have emailed them to ask how they intend to get the info to me when no email address was asked for, unless they have the one paypal has. But.....no reply as yet. I don’t really know how paypal works as I don’t use it very often.

WYE, the anger stage came and went, came and went, came and went. I flipped from anger to despair within hours. I tend to hold my anger (and feelings) in. Something learned in childhood and I find it very difficult to let my feelings out. I have let rip a few times, but not many. I tended to cry rather than rage. And I know I’m passive/aggressive, which isn’t good. So, let it out girl!

I freaked out just a little because now the plan to D is REAL and HERE.
Kinda like standing on the edge of a cliff, I suppose. It’s a big decision and a fundamental change of direction. You are sure this is the right way for you, which is why you settled again fairly quickly. You know you’ll be okay. (((Nell)))

found out that last grade today, 101% (there was extra credit), 94% without the extra credit...i think i got an a in this course too...so yay, 2 courses down and i did very well in both...
Well done! You go girlfriend! And I LOVE the idea of getting 101% - LOL I’m getting my feel good from your course and results as the moment…….

[This message edited by UKgirl at 5:01 AM, October 13th (Thursday)]


D-Day: 30 July 2006 LTA: 5yrs
Me, BS, 56 y/o Him, WS, 57 y/o
MOW, pathetic ex-fiancee.
3 grown boys and one 18 y/o
I don't consider myself married anymore.
There are some words once spoken split the world in two. Before you say them and after.

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Just a quick post to let you all know that you are in my thoughts and prayers. Been so busy with Mom in the hospital and going into a Rehabilitation Center for Physical Therapy and dealing with her BPD......(I'm an only child, no other relatives)

NPD called the day before yesterday and announced he's coming today. So I'm panicking. I've done so well without him. All he is going to be is a houseguest, so I guess I can try to put up with it for a few weeks.....

I have to keep thinking," Never make anyone your priority when you are only an option to them." But in my case, I don't even think I'm an option to him anymore, or ever, just a convenience. He operated and manipulated me for years with his charm and words and if I saw the chinks in his mask, he would get angry and blameshift to me to get the focus off of him......

I never put a shield around my heart in my whole life, but now I am, and I find it very saddening to lose the optimistic trust I had in people that they are basically good. I guess I still feel that way, but now I am very wary.

Love to all of you. I hope I can find more time to read and respond, but just had time to skim.


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UKgirl
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Don’t allow yourself to panic over Mr Dishonest’s impending arrival. Think of him as a B&B guest. Be practical, have everything ready, but make sure that you do NOT arrange things around him. See to things as and when, and then have “something else” that you absolutely must do. And accept the charm and words with thank you’s, I’m glad/sorry/[fill in the gap] you feel that way, I’m sure you’ll work things out, blah, blah, platitude, blah, placating response, blah……. Don’t really listen and then he won’t get to you. Just bat everything back with a small smile and count the days to when he goes off again.

Look after yourself first and foremost. Let the professionals deal with your mother. Stay on the sidelines, but I think you owe it to yourself to not take responsibility for her health or state of mind. I have not had to deal with BPD, so I can’t really offer any advice other than to take care of YOU.

I think most of us believed the idea that people are basically good and decent. I thought H had the same values and boundaries as I did. I believed that he had seen what adultery and affairs do to people and had vowed he would NEVER do that to me. I felt we were an island in the maelstrom and whirlpool of divorces, separation, adultery and desperate unhappiness of several couples. That at least WE were okay and strong enough to offer support and sympathy to our friends. Only to find he was doing the exact same thing. So yeh, I can relate to that sadness. “Optimistic trust” seems like stupid naivety from this side. Almost like I was asking to have it trashed as worthless. Like so many things, WH didn’t know what he had until it was gone. And that includes the hope that he would be open and honest with me. I really want to believe in him, but as time goes on, it gets less and less likely. I think what I do find is just the tip of the lie-by-omission iceberg. It’s sad, because it really does seem that he loves me very much and wants us to be happy. He’s just going about it the wrong way and is incapable of changing the way he lives and lies.

I'll say have a good weekend now - I don't think I'll have time to read/post for a few days. Please send me some mojos that the phone investigators come up with the goods.

(((((Tribe)))))


D-Day: 30 July 2006 LTA: 5yrs
Me, BS, 56 y/o Him, WS, 57 y/o
MOW, pathetic ex-fiancee.
3 grown boys and one 18 y/o
I don't consider myself married anymore.
There are some words once spoken split the world in two. Before you say them and after.

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sending lots of prayers to you honest...and of course hugs too


(((honest)))


and i love ukgirls advice....love the parts of answering him....its being nice and its keeping you distant...

(((tribe)))


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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Laura28
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Default  Posted: 2:32 AM, October 14th (Friday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi all

Not much to say tonight - certainly nothing inspiring. So thought I would share these thoughts from some people who are a little cleverer than me.



Hugs to all

Laura

[This message edited by Laura28 at 2:36 AM, October 14th (Friday)]


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

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Just a quick post,
I got the reply from the phone search company and the number is “currently associated with the following subscriber: …..” and the address is one mile from where I was born and brought up. Weird. I don’t think it is anything to do with MOW, or at least I can see no connection at the moment. A friend suggested that the person may have been given the number after a date from someone who didn’t want to see them again!

Hope the lack of posting means everyone is okay.


D-Day: 30 July 2006 LTA: 5yrs
Me, BS, 56 y/o Him, WS, 57 y/o
MOW, pathetic ex-fiancee.
3 grown boys and one 18 y/o
I don't consider myself married anymore.
There are some words once spoken split the world in two. Before you say them and after.

Posts: 3328 | Registered: Nov 2007 | From: UK
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Default  Posted: 9:42 AM, October 14th (Friday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I haven't caught up on everything but just had to post this.

HE TOLD ME EVERYTHING!!! HE PUKED IT ALL OUT!!!

We had a calm night that lasted for hours and my suspicions were confirmed and a few surprises but NOW I KNOW ABOUT HER

Ahhhh...it was better than the big O

I feel like I can move forward.

Thanks for letting me post

0115


BS (me) 49
FWH 49 newbeg2011
Married 29 years
Very Long LTA
DD 01/15/11-6/30/11
The hard work is done...let the healing begin.

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