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User Topic: Long Term Affair Part 24
njgal480
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Default  Posted: 10:07 PM, May 3rd (Tuesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Allgood-
Making decisions has always been tough for me-I am a real perfectionist...so every decision has to be 'perfect'. Which of course means that I am often paralyzed with indecision.

The ironic thing is that I was very decisive right after d-day.
I was done!
I kicked him out, changed all the locks, told EVERYONE about the LTA and started looking for attorneys.
Two months later I filed for divorce.
I made the decision.

But, my husband totally surprised me with his extreme reaction.
I wasn't expecting that.
He had made so many positive changes and was begging for another chance.

So..very confusing...

I decided to reconcile after 6 months separation.

And every few days I would trigger and regret that choice.
It was tough for me..very tough.

I'm here now because my husband did not give up and continued to fill my 'love tank' until it overflowed and outweighed the damage of the LTA.

I'm still not consistently on board with R..believe it or not even after all this time-when I trigger my first knee jerk reaction is that I should just leave him, divorce and move far away ....just get away from it all.

but, lately, those thoughts don't stick around very long.


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


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njgal480
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Default  Posted: 10:17 PM, May 3rd (Tuesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Discussion about Retrouvaille in Reconciliation forum.

Here's the link:

http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp?tid=406739


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


Posts: 3139 | Registered: Jul 2009 | From: NJ
iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 10:31 PM, May 3rd (Tuesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

its been a long long day here...i cannot go into all of it..but the basic gist...

tonite pfm has come to me and told me that he has been talking to a woman, he met her on the train...he has been confiding in this woman and exchanging some emails on his work email for months...

he still insists he is a changed man...he still wants the marriage...

so my second day on this ride sucks too.....

oh, and this woman emailed him because her boyfriend is some kind of racer and wants him to bring the whole family....oh joy

ow #1...also wanted me to meet her and her husband to hire his band for our wedding...all the while she was having an affair with him...i did meet her...

my friend...the one he tried to get with...he met her on a train too...

trigger much...


to those of you who have a shot...do the retrovaille...at least you can then say whether or not you are done..no more living waiting for the shoe to drop to say thats it, thats the last straw...

i understand how hard it is to know that you might be facing an ending....because that really is the only reason i can imagine stopping you....that heres the last straw and it didn't work...meaning its over...declaring a relationship over sucks...even after the declaration it still hurts...


i was prepared for a slap in the face i knew was coming...it still hurt like hell when the slap landed...


thank you all...the love sent my way warms my soul,...


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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lostsuol
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Default  Posted: 11:09 PM, May 3rd (Tuesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

{{{iwantamiracle}}}

{{{LTA}}}

all I have time for after reading the last few pages... it's late and I have nothing left but hugs for all.


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deeppurple
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Default  Posted: 11:24 PM, May 3rd (Tuesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Dip & M - I'm sorry its all my fault.

I too loathe making that decision. WW wont make the call - she needs to save face be the good guy. If I make the decision to D it validates her affair as Im the one who wants a divorce.She gets the pity party because I'm the prick who the D.
It sucks!!


Me - BS 49
Her - WS 43
Married 16 yrs (together 17 yrs)
DD13 DS10 DS8 DS6
DDay 1 6.4.2010 dday 2 7.25.2010
Heading for divorce.
"Never look down on someone unless you are helping them up"

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Allgoodnamesgone
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Default  Posted: 6:08 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

NJGal - I understand why your H's efforts post-DDay have kept you in R. Had my H given me enough to believe either he really was in love/committed to me NOW or that he was otherwise changed so that another A would not happen, I would've preferred to R as well.
There are a great many things about my H that I like,love, but I just see the course of the last few years as being somewhat abusive. And, I don't say that lightly. I see my sitch as being one of those situations as the relationship must end, even though I don't want it to, because the relationship is not good for me.
I'm sorry to hear that you still have fleeting thoughts of doubt/regret(? - not sure what to call it), but glad they dissipate quickly.

Miracle: I imagine his thinking is that even though he wants the M, you have said no, so this kind of thing is ok. Is that it?
TOO TOUGH to watch.
Last night, my H was texting like crazy. Couldn't help myself & checked his phone - all texts had been deleted. I was a little pissed. If I found he had been texting another woman or OW I would've gone apeshit, despite the status of our relationship, so I understand how you feel. I really do not understand how you are going to exist like this long term as you know, but I know you are fixed in your convictions, so I won't go there.
((Miracle)).
Got to go. Not sure at what age kids will start to make their own breakfasts & get ready for school, but it ain't at 13 I suppose. Lol.


Me- BS
DDay- 8/26/09
Separated after failed R effort.

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ImNellNow
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Default  Posted: 6:40 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((miracle)))
I'm so sorry. Sneaky bastard.

njgal,
going to look at the Retro thread now... thanks.

Yoga last night kicked my ass; came home and had a quesadilla and a beer while WH napped on the couch... he came into the room where I had my "dinner" and said "Beer?" with this face: . I did not react, just kept my cool.

WH read a few more pages in the Linda MacDonald book but didn't talk to me about it.

I read some in the Janis Spring Forgiveness book and did not talk to WH about it.

I gots three minutes before I have to run. Happy Hump Day!


BS & D
Drinking wine and thinking bliss is on the other side of this.

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Default  Posted: 7:00 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi all

I've been away at a work conference. SOOOO busy. Have been reading when I could grab a minute but had no time to respond.

Honest

Laura: I know what you mean by having at least one thing that is special to the two of you. I pray that things keep moving forward for you and you can create more NEW special things together

Thank you

Dip

Did I read that you thought UKgirl and Dip were on vacation together? I can assure you that we are not. She would not go with me.

Fun

Tryn and Honest - I have to muster up the courage to go to Retro...I'm nervous about it

I know how you feel. I was nervous about EMDR but I felt that at least I was DOING something. I sometimes think that after an LTA we feel very powerless. Everything was done TO us. Now we have to sit and wait for our FWSs to "get it". Maybe if you go to Retrou you may feel as though you at least are taking action. Try it honey. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Strong

I read on another forum about someone that thinks that they are actually hoping that their WS will do something bad that will make the decision to D a slam dunk.

And I thought I was the only one who thought like this!!! Sometimes I think it WOULD be so much easier. I have thought and have told FWH a number of times that if he cheats again we are done. What I haven't told him is that I would HATE him if he did. I believe I really would. So it would be easier. Wouldn't it????? Then I start looking at "New Beginnings" and think "Maybe not". It's all so BLOODY HARD!!!!

NJgal

Never in a million years would I have believed that my husband could have had a LTA and never in a million years would I have predicted that I would reconcile after a LTA.

Me 2, 3, 30,000? probably more like a billion!

And...until you have walked in someone else's shoes then you really have no idea what they are going through.

We were SO NAIVE and SO TRUSTING weren't we?? If we hadn't been they wouldn't have gotten away with it for so long!!! Now, it's different. We are different, our (F)WH's are different,, our Ms are different. The WORLD is different. It's not a safe place anymore. No wonder so many of us have PTSD!!!

Ats

do you feel like you are trying harder than your FWS? Lots harder? Maybe that is the source of the loathing.

I have felt this the whole way through our M. Sometimes I feel it now. Especially when he starts on about his FDs

Miracle

tonite pfm has come to me and told me that he has been talking to a woman, he met her on the train...he has been confiding in this woman and exchanging some emails on his work email for months.

Oh my!!!! Hasn't he learnt anything????

((((((((miracle)))))))

DP

WW wont make the call - she needs to save face be the good guy.

To me this is just MORE cowardice and selfishness. The As are a symptom of extreme cowardice and selfishness and this is just more of the same

((((((DP))))))

AGNG

Last night, my H was texting like crazy. Couldn't help myself & checked his phone - all texts had been deleted. I was a little pissed.

This is SO DISRESPECTFUL!!! Whatever the status of your relationship this is awful!!!

Nell

WH read a few more pages in the Linda MacDonald book but didn't talk to me about it.

I know it's frustrating honey but at least he's still making SOME effort.

Will stop here before it goes "poof"

Love to all

Laura


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

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Laura28
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Default  Posted: 7:14 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Me again

Just wanted to share.

A couple of months after dday I took off my rings. I just couldn't stand them anymore. It's a little hard sometimes eg This conference I went to involved people from all over the country. I was with a group from my area. They (and all the people I work with) are associated with Catholic Education and know I am married. I was with a number of priests, our bishop and the head honchos of my diocese. I sometimes wonder if they've noticed. But I still can't bring myself to put them back on yet.

Anyway, I got hit on on the plane trip on the way home. A very nice man (also not wearing a ring!). I politely told him "No thanks, I'm married" and he had the good manners not to comment on the absence of rings (although I saw him glance at my hand again!)

Why was this easy for me? Why was/is it hard for our (F)WSs???

People are strange!!!

BTW: Until shortly after dday my FWH never wore his wedding ring. He always claimed it was too dangerous with his work. He now wears his new one all the time. I told him he MUST advertise that he is "taken"

Love you all.

Laura

[This message edited by Laura28 at 7:18 AM, May 4th (Wednesday)]


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 8:10 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

allgood, I think I understand him deleting texts so that you do not see all of the Mother's day plans he is trying to make.

((allgood)), really, I think it is just passive aggressive, the little boy coming out.

...actually hoping that their WS will do something bad that will make the decision to D a slam dunk

I used to feel this too, but then I remember she already did something bad. We always had the ability to leave the M that was not meeting our needs, but on dday we were handed a "get out of the M free card". I do not know if there is an expiration date on the card, but it is still an option.

iwam, so sorry for you to have to deal with him and this. You know who and what he is, but it does not make the behavior any easier to experience.

deeppurple,

...WW wont make the call - she needs to save face be the good guy. If I make the decision to D it validates her affair as Im the one who wants a divorce.She gets the pity party...

Make the play that is right for you and allow the chips fall where they may. You are in a no win situation. There is no dealing rationally with the irrational behavior of a person involved in an A. If you do not make the D call, but through your actions make her participating in the A uncomfortable she will blame you for that. She is going to blame you for all that is wrong because the only other option is that she would have to blame herself, and that aint gonna happen in her current mindset. Those who believe you to be a prick for divorcing are people whose opinion should not matter anyway. As for family and kids, time will tell the tale. Your WW is on a trajectory that will not end well.

I often told FWW not to get so worked up about her xH. I advised her to do what she believed to be right, and the birds of his actions would eventually come home to roost. It has taken 20 years, but as bad as the events in FWW's life, I can guarantee his has been and will be worse. Actions do have consequences; they just sometimes take a while to express. Your WSs irrational and selfish behavior cannot result in an authentic and satisfying life.

Tribe, I came across a new source of information from 2 years ago during her A with the last OM. It is bits and pieces and mostly indirect (not to OM, but to friends), but it all tends to support what she has told me, there is no indication of more I do not know about. I do have some dates for out of town meetings, and a better understanding of her plans for leaving in the first months after dday.

--Ats

[This message edited by atsenaotie at 8:12 AM, May 4th (Wednesday)]


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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m334455
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Default  Posted: 8:57 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

ATS, does this new information make you feel better? What our lives have become that something like this would have the potential to make us feel better.

No, ATS, I think I probably haven't done enough. A lot of IC. A lot of reading. No MC. No talking about the A with WH. WH appears to be transparent and NC but is not remorseful. My IC after meeting him thought he might be a sociopath, but after I explained that he does genuinely care for the kids and cries when pets die he revised it to some level of Narcissism. IC said it's unlikely I'll see remorse from him anytime soon if ever.

Usually, if WH notices something is bothering me I just say nothing and refuse to talk to him but this morning he asked so I went for it and said I'm still bothered that we're not on the same page about a conversation we had on Monday about some boundaries involving the kids.

The conversation went something like this:

( I'm sure I've been quiet because I've been stewing over this. I just don't like how we left it. He notices me reading in bed and that I'm stewing so he says...)
" what's wrong?"
(this is where I would normally say nothing and have a nice day BUT instead...)
Me: " I'm concerned about our conversation the other day - I just don't think we're on the same page and I know we came up with some solutions that may make it a moot point but I would feel better if we were on the same page.". Ok, I doubt it was that perfectly rational, but I actually did pretty well and that's close.
Him: " well, you do THAT and I've never done THAT and how is THAT not worse than THIS and is it because you think I'm out of control and you're in control?"
Me: "I'm concerned about THAT too. We can talk about THAT too. I think THIS and THAT are both bad."
Him: blah blah mad mad you're worse than me I've got to go to work and stomps off.
Me: cry ( after he's gone) frustrated, feeling crazy, PM miracle and now typing this post.

Gee, wonder how the rug-sweeping happened?

Anyway - I just really think that I've got to be 100% confrontational from now on.

He crossed one of my boundaries with the kids Sunday night so I got the situation in hand and checked with 3 friends who he respects as tougher moms than me and they all 3 agreed with me so I got us a sitter, got us out of the house and spent two hours hashing it out with him - and we came up with some great solutions but I couldn't get him to agree that he'd crossed the line. And he's not sorry. And he's not wrong... Etc. I couldn't even get him to agree where the line IS. Like - look, I know if you were drawing the line it would be 5 feet away and if I were drawing it it would be 2 feet away so I can agree to disagree as to where the line should be as long as we agree that 3 1/2 feet away is where the line IS. You know?

We came up with better options on Monday but did not solve the problem and I don't like that, meanwhile his stance is that there is no problem because he has autocratically set the line 5 feet away and there it will stay.

Ugh.


BW 38, 5 kids
Dday Dec. 2009

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m334455
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Default  Posted: 8:57 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Whoops double post.

[This message edited by m334455 at 8:59 AM, May 4th (Wednesday)]


BW 38, 5 kids
Dday Dec. 2009

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ImNellNow
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Default  Posted: 9:42 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

m3,

You already know where things got off track:

Him: " well, you do THAT and I've never done THAT and how is THAT not worse than THIS and is it because you think I'm out of control and you're in control?"
Me: "I'm concerned about THAT too. We can talk about THAT too. I think THIS and THAT are both bad."

Do you know how to keep them ON track? I have a stupid communication thing that I can PM you about if you want; it's probably something you already have but maybe not...


BS & D
Drinking wine and thinking bliss is on the other side of this.

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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 9:45 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

ATS, does this new information make you feel better? What our lives have become that something like this would have the potential to make us feel better.

Yes, the more I look successfully, and do not find any more smoking guns, the more I am inclined to think I know what I need to know. Still, the absence of proof is not proof, like proving ghosts do not exist by pointing out nobody has one in a zoo or specimen collection. It is also helpful to see this "unedited" view into what she thought and felt at the time when she was meeting with OM. A little painful, but helpful because it is again as she described.

Usually, if WH notices something is bothering me I just say nothing and refuse to talk to him but this morning he asked so I went for it

One consistency with FWW and I in the last few months is that we are always better off talking about what we are feeling than bottling it up. Yes, I know I can be the bottling King. Not only does it heal to express and feel the pain, shame, whatever, FWW tells me it helps her to not feel so messed up when I tell her about the struggles I have or some of my admittedly obsessive behaviors about the A stuff.

Anyway - I just really think that I've got to be 100% confrontational from now on.

agreed, and you could replace confrontational with "honest and transparent".

IC said it's unlikely I'll see remorse from him anytime soon if ever.

If your trust your IC, this would give me pause. No remorse would be a dealbreaker for me because without remorse there is no empathy, no drive to "fix" the thing the WS is not remorseful about.

well, you do THAT and I've never done THAT and how is THAT not worse than THIS and is it because you think I'm out of control and you're in control?"

smoke and mirrors

"I will be happy to talk at length about THAT once we have resolved this issue we started with."

"No, I will not talk about THAT until after we have resolved this issue."

Whoever is worse does not matter, it does not solve the problem. Does he want to be better, or be married?

What I see in that discussion you described is someone who can rationalize "I can do this (as in inappropriate pre-A loose boundary flirting and crap), because m334455 does that and is not taking care of my needs."

--Ats


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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Default  Posted: 10:10 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

ATS
her plans for leaving in the first months after dday

Heck, I made plans too. But look at you today, still married and now can open up to each other. IMO, that is the way to be more intimate. Too me, It sounds like you may about to enter into a mature love. It's good.

Iwant, I hope you have found your strength again and I can certainly grasp how you might feel over what your husbandís actions. If I had one wish today, I wish you the partner in your life that would truly cherish you.

Laura, I don't always say it, but I always enjoy reading your post. You sound good.

DP,

I too loathe making that decision. WW wont make the call - she needs to save face be the good guy.
Of course you would feel the way you do. But for your W not to make efforts to somehow reconnect, it basically is her decision. (Same with allgood's)

Have you ever ask her to attend Retrou?

M3, I hope you work things out.

Peace to everyone today.

[This message edited by trynhard at 10:14 AM, May 4th (Wednesday)]


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I just want to recommend that everyone eat a pink peep.
I have just done so and feel A LOT better.


Me- BS
DDay- 8/26/09
Separated after failed R effort.

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Default  Posted: 11:46 AM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Allgood.

Yesterday I found a box of yellow peeps that had been misplaced since easter. Maybe my W hid them from me and forgot where they were! I guess I will confront her tonite. I think I will eat one or two for lunch desert.

Miracle.

Sorry to read what he did. It is just so amazing how stupid all these WSs are.

Laura.

I think many of us have at one time or another had that thought that just one more time would make the D decision easier. I thought that way after D-day #1. D-day #2 came and I ended up staying. If I had a D-day #3 would I cash it in? I say I would, but you never know until it happens. I often think what ats said. I already have been handed the get a D card why do I think I need another one? This A crap just messses with our minds so much.

njgal.

My W is a perfectionest. Can't make a decision without asking me or just plain telling me to make it. Everything we ever did or bought is a discussion, sometimes too much of a discussion. Except for her having boyfriends. She left me out of that discussion.

Deep.

She is making the decision for you. If she is not going to try at all and is still having the A, you really do not have any choice, unless you want to have a open marriage. I doubt you want that. Decision making can be so tough. Especially with the cards that a BS has been dealt.

m3.

When I get the whats wrong question, I often do the the old nothing and just go on. If it is A related and I say what is on my mind this will end in a no win situation. Yes this is how the rug sweeping happens. You get trained that to say what you think just makes things worse so why try? the nothings wrong approach is so much easier. Conflict avoidance at its best.

I need to eat lunch and see if the yellow peeps will make me feel better. I'm sure they will. Allgood said that they would and she is always right!

Hugs to the tribe.


Her WW 60
Me BH 60
M 36 yr
D-day#1 fall of 76 OM#1 2NS
D-day#2 summer of 89 OM#2 LTA 8 yrs OM#3 Short Term A


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ImNellNow
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Short story, entitled:
Nell Decides To Quit Waiting For Mr. Nell To Compliment Her, So She Compliments Herself To Mr. Nell, Who Parrots Back Whatever She Has Said As If It Were His Idea

Once upon a time, Nell does not throttle Mr. Nell and she lives angrily ever after.

The end.


BS & D
Drinking wine and thinking bliss is on the other side of this.

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Miracle: I am just sooooo angry for you!!! I'm so very sorry. I know how much this must hurt. Don't they ever learn??
It's such selfish behavior that they don't even consider the complete consequences of their actions!!

M3: Your WH sounds like my WH's clone. Never will take responsibility of his actions and shifts blame etc.
If this is a boundary with the kids, this can be something that might be a very big dealbreaker if he cannot change his behavior. He will not own up to it and it will only escalate.

DP: I know what you mean about being the "bad guy". I didn't want to be the one either, so luckily it happened that WH said it and not me.

I, too, was always saying if WH does one more thing then that will be it. But the one more thing was slow incremental stuff...so much like that frog in boiling water. We slowly got used to worse and worse that we are living on breadcrumbs that are thrown our way.

Maybe that's what they mean that we must be willing to lose our M completely in order to save it. Living on crumbs and slowly accepting worse and worse is not correcting the situation and is just killing us inside. We are taking on the blame and the WS is more than happy to put it there and then some. We are drowning with the burden of all the problems of the marriage and then trying to fix it.

Ok, ramble over.

{{{{{tribe}}}}}


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Default  Posted: 12:30 PM, May 4th (Wednesday), 2011View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I just want to recommend that everyone eat a pink peep.

You can EAT them?, just plain? I prefer the peep-a-tini


[This message edited by atsenaotie at 12:33 PM, May 4th (Wednesday)]


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FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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