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User Topic: Long Term Affair Part 20
nofun
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Default  Posted: 8:53 PM, September 29th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

i hear lorena bobbit is teaching a hands on workshop!!

Where do I sign up for this worshop?


BS (me) 56
WH 61
M 36 yrs
OW - 55 - Howdy Doody Look Alike
3 Awesome Adult C
DD 6/7/09
LTA 12 years.
Confused: D or R???

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lovinlife
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Default  Posted: 8:59 PM, September 29th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Laura.

How long was it after dday that you were able to do this???

It was probably about 6 months or so. I had put him out of the house for a couple of months and it was after that!

Please God let him be genuine. As I get more hopeful I know it puts me higher and means that if he pushes me off the ledge I have so much further to fall!!!!

Having hope is so important, and you should be hopeful for you... that you are strong and capable and able to make it no matter what he chooses! Hope will be your cushion to fall on in case he does let you down... KWIM?

Lovin


Together more than half our lives.

I am woman, hear me ROAR!!
What you accept, you teach!

Me 53, WS 54
Reconciled for life!
DD 24, DS 27


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Laura28
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Default  Posted: 9:30 PM, September 29th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks Lovin

I really appreciate the time you (and everyone else here) have taken to answer my questions.

I honestly do not know how I would have coped without SI. I have shared my sich with a couple of friends and my sister but they JUST DON"T GET IT!!!

Before this I'm sure my reaction would have been the same as theirs - dump the bastard, you'll never be able to trust him again. Even my brother whose W was unfaithful doesn't seem to understand.He left her immediately he found out and says he has no regrets - would never have been able to forgive. They had been married for 8yrs and had 2 little boys. But I remember him being so bitter and angry for so long!!! It was 10yrs before he started dating again. He's now 50 and has just remarried - she's a BW who is still trying to cope with her betrayal 8 yrs ago!!! She also left immediately after dday!!

Anyway, rambling on here.

Yes I will cling to my hope. H just phoned again. Said goodbye and then called back to say sorry he forgot to say "I love you"

Good luck to you and your husband. I hope you have many wonderful years ahead and that you both enjoy his retirement.

Laura


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 10:55 PM, September 29th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

the mean man....

many of us were married to the mean man, the man we avoided because frankly he was mean and very not likable...

many years ago a dear freind of mine pointed out a huge character flaw that had started in her own husband at the time...he was a mean man...she could not do anything right, he blamed her for everything from the so called lousy dinner to fact that he didn't love her anymore...and she told me then what she realized...he was being mean as a way to justify to himself his actions...

if he could blame you, if he could find fault with you he has the justification he needs to continue with his behavior....


and then i learned on my own just how true this was...as well as all the things that were hurled at me while he was being mean were really things about himself...it is called projection...i used to shake my head...how can this man accuse me of so many asinine things...when it was so clear that i was not guilty of all of his charges...BUT HE WAS....

for my friend...it wasn't that he didn't love her, he didn't love himself...and he needed his justification for stepping out on her, and those justifications were sorely needed in his own mind, to justify steppin out on your pregnant wife...and telling her that you didn't love her among other things...

well today i had some good news...that friend, the one whose husband stepped out, well he left her when that child was 3 months old...and here she is 14/15 years later and she has just gotten engaged to a wonderful man...she is iffy on it, always afraid of making the wrong choice, she doesn't want to be in that position again...so if she manages to keep her fears in check i believe this man will really make her happy...he is such a good man...

the scars left by this shit run deep... life is not only possible but you have make the choice to have one and make the most of it and it can be happy...

i want my happy...and damnit i will get it and have it...

we all deserve that happy, dont we....it starts by making the decision to have it and making the choices to achieve it...and committing to those very choices to make it a reality...


community service announcement:

many of you are requesting to attend the lorena bobbit hands on workshop...

well i will be getting more information on the class, and as soon as they forward to me the list of supplies i will pass that information on to the rest of you...i do believe though that the biggest requirement that we will need on the first day of class will be the newer model of the smith and wesson model of the steak knife, this knife is especially usefull for cutting into thick cuts of meat...



i like the idea of a book laura...and i really think that you should do some in field training on the torture sequences....oh, maybe i should have asked....are there any torture sequences in the book????, if not i think you might want to rethink doing it, just for the field training...that kind of training could be invaluable, don't you think????


[This message edited by iwantamiracle at 10:59 PM, September 29th (Wednesday)]


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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honesttoafault
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Default  Posted: 11:17 PM, September 29th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thick cuts of meat, Miracle???

Now you are giving them too much credit!!!

Supplies for class? For me, probably a pencil sharpener!


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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 11:19 PM, September 29th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You all were right, FWW says the problem has always been me because it is always about me.

If you need a subject for the lorena bobbit class I volunteer, I will not have use for mine for quite a while.


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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honesttoafault
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Default  Posted: 11:27 PM, September 29th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Ats!!! Tsk, tsk!!!!!

You do not qualify as a subject! You deserve a medal for all your efforts.

Join the club, Ats, according to WH, it's all my fault too!!! I was "depressed" and he wasn't satisfied with the quantity or quality of our sex life, and I was "too loose" down there.....

Of course, I still wonder if he wasn't satisfied with the quality, why would he want more quantity? But, silly me, I'm trying to apply logic to illogic.

You can't analyze stupidity.


My neighbor, god bless her, says it was him, not me and labeled him, "pencil dick" (I hope I haven't offended anyone?....thus the pencil sharpener...he can stab himself)

[This message edited by honesttoafault at 11:31 PM, September 29th (Wednesday)]


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Laura28
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Default  Posted: 11:35 PM, September 29th (Wednesday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi miracle

Thanks for the info on the mean man. Fortunately mine left home on dday and as he hasn't been seen since I'm becoming more hopeful every day that he really has gone for good!!


i want my happy...and damnit i will get it and have it..

Yes you will. I often read you saying this here and know you are trying to convince yourself. Miracle - you WILL have it. I KNOW you will because you are that kind of person!!!!


I anxiously await ordering information for equipment for the lorena bobbit hands on workshop esp the smith and wesson steak knife. Could you please ensure size requirements are included? I don't expect to need the XXL, the XL or even the L. The M or S should suffice!!!!

Actually I don't expect to need any of them at present but will attend the class and purchase the equipment in case the sich changes!!!

With regards to the torture sequences. I believe this would be an excellent addition to the book. Perhaps those of us who attend the workshop could ask Lorena for ideas as well as sharing our own??? I'm sure she has a wealth of knowledge! We could then make plans for some in field training!!!

I obtained some excellent ideas for tortures sequences yesterday. After reading Stieg Larsson's Millenium series (which I enjoyed immensely), I was looking forward to the movie. I think it came to Australia right when I was dealing with dday so I didn't get to see it. Yesterday, I saw the DVD. There is an excellent example of a very appropriate torture process in the scene with Bjurman. If anyone has not read the book or seen the movie, I would recommend this as pre-class preparation.

Oops- NOT for our gentlemen!! BHs would find it too disturbing!!! Sorry boys. Although, on second thought it might be useful in another way. For those BHs with revenge fantasies - this might help settle the mind - get revenge out of your system so to speak ie if you can substitute OMs face for Bjurman's face!!!

Anyway, kids house is a mess!!! UGH. Will have to put my cleaning gloves on!

Talk later

Laura

[This message edited by Laura28 at 6:18 AM, September 30th (Thursday)]


Married 30yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 59yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA til dday).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

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nofun
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Default  Posted: 6:37 AM, September 30th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

iwant - you are right about the mean man. I told my H the exact same thing you just posted. He even accused me of having a "boy friend". He was trying to justify what he was doing. Now I see it, then I didn't. I just thought he was a very unhappy individual and I was hoping it would pass. I even suggested IC, meds, silly me was trying to help him.

Sign me up for the work shop. And order me the small version of the smith and wesson knife. My sister calls H "the bug fucker". I also like "pencil dick" so maybe a pencil sharpener is all that is needed. Ooooo....that's so bad....

Ats - It's not you....I too still get blamed.."I wasn't giving him enough sex", "I didn't care about him", "I wasn't paying attention to him", "I didn't need him", "I was too busy", "I didn't dicipline the kids correctly" "The house was not clean", you name it and I didn't do it right. H can go suck dead bird dicks for dinner. Can you tell it's not going to be a good day? Sorry Guys!!


BS (me) 56
WH 61
M 36 yrs
OW - 55 - Howdy Doody Look Alike
3 Awesome Adult C
DD 6/7/09
LTA 12 years.
Confused: D or R???

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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 7:53 AM, September 30th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

fun: i need a visual, at least mentally...how does one suck a dead bird's dick???


ats: definitely tsk tsk......and of course its your fault, how could it be otherwise...just because she cheated, she lied, she put herself into precarious sich, just because she has manic episodes, just because she changes her tune as often as she breathes....but of course its your fault...


ats: she cannot face who she is, she cannot face her issues, for whatever reasons she would rather deal with things this way and face what she truly fears...whether or not her fears have any merit, does not matter, the only thing that does matter is her perception which she has made into her reality....

without intensive therapy and the will and drive to change what she needs to acknowledge she will be forever stuck right where she is and sadly she is not happy with this either....and im betting she will never find happiness....in her case ignorance is not bliss...


laura...my mean man is also gone, pfm was told that if he ever comes back he can pick his clothes up off the front lawn and find a new place to live....and i meant it and he knew it....i have seen the bully man since d-day, and then he was told the same thing as mean man....for the most part, bully man doesn't live here either anymore...

wow, pfm sure did have lots of personalities....i wonder if he is related to sybil...nah, she actually had an actual disorder...the only disorder pfm has is stupidity... ...granted its stupidity on a GRAND SCALE....


(((tribe)))


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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old dipstick
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Default  Posted: 8:27 AM, September 30th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

nofun.
I am flattered that you included me in the island venture. I have never been invited to run away to a island with anyone, and this is by a much younger female type person. Wow!

Women of the tribe. Old dip slept with one eye open last night. That is when he was able to sleep. I think it was all this bobbit talk. This can be a pretty tough crowd. I do recall reading a sort of revenge that would be less likely to have you posing for a mug shot and and residing in the crossbar hotel. You take a small bit of fiberglass insulation and very lightly brush the crotch area of his underwear. The key here is very lightly. That stuff makes even tough hands itch so the privates would not need much. If you do this right before your H goes to work it will really mess up his day. I take no credit for this idea. I do recall that when I read about this it was written by a woman. BTW. There will be no insulation allowed on the island....

lovinlife.
Drop in more often. It is good for everyone to hear from you.

miracle.
I just knew you would have to ask about the dead bird dick thing. I guess this is influnced by the subject matter here, but I was wondering if the bird dicks were given the bobbit treatment or served attached?

I just love the high brow discusions we have here. Very educational for sure.

Hugs to the tribe.


Her WW 60
Me BH 60
M 36 yr
D-day#1 fall of 76 OM#1 2NS
D-day#2 summer of 89 OM#2 LTA 8 yrs OM#3 Short Term A


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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 8:38 AM, September 30th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

i need a visual, at least mentally...how does one suck a dead bird's dick???

errr, ummm... speaking as an undergraduate biology major.... male birds do not have such an ummm "appendage"

ARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!

sorry, FWW just called and she had a medical appointment this morning that I was concerned about so I took her call. She has not gone in for a breast exam for over 2 years despite being high risk. Recently two different medical providers have commented on lumps that were new. Ends up they are just calcium and fibers, no health problems. That makes me happy. Then she just chats as though we are the best friends in the world, despite last night saying I was the source of the problems in the M.Then she says if they were breast cx she would have refused treatment, so good thing they are not She then explains where she is, what she will be doing and the calls she is making, doing the whole transparency thing because she is in the area where OM#3 lives. I told her last night that none of that matters to me anymore, over is over.

No need to 2x4, I am banging my own head against the desk.

[This message edited by atsenaotie at 8:40 AM, September 30th (Thursday)]


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 9:40 AM, September 30th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

ats: why are you banging your head?

why would we give you 2 x 4's.....?

i am at a loss here ats...why are you beating up on yourself....because you took the call, because you care, because you love this woman...no my friend never 2 x 4's for all of that....you are the person you are...when you are ready and not a moment sooner you will do what you need to do for you...

we are here to support you in whatever decisions you make, and we give great cyber hugs....and occasionally we offer trips to islands complete with mudslides and lets not forget those cabana boys, although i don't think those cabana boys will do it for you, at least i hope not...


dip: i am so glad you are finding our subject matter so enlightening...we learn new things every day....so ats, why don't birds have dicks?


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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Default  Posted: 10:26 AM, September 30th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((Tribe))))
Ats & Old- you are brave souls to hang out here with women talking about Lorena-like circumstances Maybe you can imagine the same tortures we speak of for the OM in your sitch? Just sayin' wouldn't want you left out of the fun.....

Honest made the mostbrilliant observation in this:

You can't analyze stupidity.

In fact, this is exactlywhat my FWH explained to me as I was trying to make sense of his infidelities. Trying to get into his mind, he gently explained to me just what Honest said- there is no understanding the dysfunction and their screwed up way of thinking that led them to the A and that was during the A (and for some during the "fog" post A). If you spend your time trying to analyze it to peices you will go insane, because their actions were insanity. KWIM?

Join the club, Ats, according to WH, it's all my fault too!!! I was "depressed" and he wasn't satisfied with the quantity or quality of our sex life, and I was "too loose" down there.....

and

You all were right, FWW says the problem has always been me because it is always about me.

Tribe, listen up. Things like these are A LOAD OF CRAP! B.S.! BLAME-SHIFTING! One of the most important differences I've seen in my FWH after dday3 which was only three months ago is he FINALLY STOPPED THIS MADNESS. He is owning up to his own shit. After the LTA we went through MC and IC (both of us individually) and then we were reconciled fairly well for the next 3 years. BUT I always felt like our original MC did not address enough with FWH about owning his own stuff- too much emphasis was on the "unmet needs in the marriage." And while this may be true for some, at the point you've got a LTA WS they are waaaayyyy beyond the "normal" sitch. They have deep seated individualissues that they need to work out. I firmly believe that one of the milestones that you will see in a remorseful and truly recovering FWS is owning responsiblity. So, even though my marital history is deplorable and I've been judged by many of my friends for staying in my M, I have to say that I dothink there is hope in my M because I think my FWH finally turned this corner. And honestly, I think it was in large part due to him starting a 12 step program- and also realizing that he, too, has codependency issues in addition to all the other FOO stuff (physical and emotional abuse, etc.)

Was that enough rambling for you?

I hope you all get something out of my posts and don't think I'm too crazy.

Hugs,
HB


Dday1 8/05 (LTA)
Dday2 4/09 (online EA 2 weeks then confessed)
Dday 3 8/10 ("full disclosure" of more infidelity prior to 2009)

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honesttoafault
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Default  Posted: 11:58 AM, September 30th (Thursday), 2010View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The "workshop" discussion reminded me of a conversation between WH and me not long after dday #1 (I think I posted this on #18?)

WH: I guess you want to kill me after what I did.
Me: No, but maybe I'll "bobbit" you instead.
WH: That would kill me.
Me: So, I kill two birds with one stone!!

We actually both laughed at this......

Dip, I like your insulation suggestion!! LOL.

Miracle, I'm putting your "workshop" suggestion in "Fun and Games' quotes section!" It's too good!!

HB, I'm so glad that you and your WH are moving forward like this and he is finally feeling remorse. Now you both have a chance for a fulfilling and loving marriage.

Ats, you are in such a tough place right now. Your WW is not facing reality, I don't know if she truly can. You are a wonderful man that you took her to the doc. I'm glad everything seems to be ok with that at least.
I hope you are still seeing an IC for yourself, dealing with this fallout and your WW's inconsistent behavior can make one question oneself. I know I always needed, and still do need " reality checks" when dealing with WH and my mother because they can make you feel that YOU are the one who is wrong. Since they are both highly intelligent, they can make very fallacious arguments that seem logical....KWIM?

Laura: I'm glad to hear that you feel hopeful, but be pragmatic too. All baby steps, and your WH seems to be taking some.

As for me, I'm still battling bronchitis and a sinus infection. It's taking it's toll and time. I've had a history of bronchitis all my life, so nothing new there, it just takes a lot out of me.

WH had gottent that new I4 for me, and you can have video chat on it. So he calls me today, and not only do I have to hear him, I see him!!! How can I detach when I have to look at him!!! I'll have to pretend it doesn't work or something, I guess.

{{{{{tribe}}}}


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Ats...and Honest...
you both had the same reaction from your WS.
They blamed you for the affair!
That is the worst reaction for a WS to have.
IMHO it means there is very little chance for R.
The #1 requirement for R is complete and total remorse from the WS.
Other requirements... #2Complete and total NC with the OW/OM and..#3.Complete and total transparency from now on...
If those minimum requirements are not in place then you cannot move forward with R.


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


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miracle.
Once again I just knew you were going to ask that question. I guess great minds do think alike, or maybe just spend a lot of time in the gutter. Why don't birds have dicks? Google it.

HB.
I figure that they can not bobbit someone over the internet. Can they? I am writing this with my laptop sitting on my, well, lap! Maybe I should move to a table.
As for us thinking you are too crazy. I would guess that some of the immates here are as crazy as you are. I am pretty sure that I am at the top of the crazy list here at the LTA house, so take it from someone who knows crazy. You are not too crazy

honest.
I thought the insulation idea was pretty good. To bad you did not get to do that to your WH just before he was to get on his plane. It would be a riot to think about him digging and scratching at his crotch the whole flight. Can you imagine doing this to someone who has to stand in front of many people. Say a school teacher. I suppose this would be a pretty good payback if done to a woman too. A little in the panties and maybe a little in each bra cup. It would make for a rough day at the office if she was rubbing and scratching her boobs all day. Damn, I don't know why I find all this so funny. I just can't help myself sometimes.
On a serious note I do hope your bronchitis and sinus infection get better soon. I have had a touch of that before and it does take it out of you. Can you tape a picture of someone or something else on you I4 so you do not have to look at him?

nofun.
Since ats has shot down the idea of dead bird dicks, maybe you can change to dead donkey dicks. Ats can not say that donkeys do not have them. They do. I have seen this with my own eyes. Not in movies, but in real life on the farm. I am expecting a question from miracle about donkey dicks anytime now.

Hugs to the tribe.


Her WW 60
Me BH 60
M 36 yr
D-day#1 fall of 76 OM#1 2NS
D-day#2 summer of 89 OM#2 LTA 8 yrs OM#3 Short Term A


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NJgal, I have known there is no hope for R because I don't have even One of those necessary requirements. I'm just trying to hang on for a while because of finances, kids, and until I can get my act together.

ETA: I read your post after this Dip. It did make me smile at the thought of WH sitting on a 11 hour flight with itchy pants!

I am NOT going to even comment on donkeys, WH is an ASS anyway

I'm so upset and shaking right now.

WH calls back on that stupid I4. He's so happy with his new toy. He wants to "see" the kids. This is all fine and good, BUT as with the first call, I can see he is calling from OW's house. (Know this from the paint on the wall and chair he's sitting on. He had shown us pics of the OC's in that room)

DS's have no idea, I didn't say anything. They think it's cool to talk to Dad over this new phone.

It didn't hit me when we talked for a few minutes, but it hit like an atomic bomb later.

It hurts so much. I know that is where he is staying. But to SEE him there and I saw him look up from the phone as if someone was passing by....I know it was HER.

I can pretend so much for the kids. I am a human being. BUT, WH wouldn't understand, and of course he didn't think as usual.

I'm just venting. It's hard to explain this to anyone IRL.

I know I have to tell WH not to call me with that phone from there anymore. I'm also afraid that WH will just shove that phone in front of the OC's so they can see their brothers. He's been pushing for DS 15 to talk to them all year and DS 15 says he's not ready and of course WH blames me for this. It's my attitude, he says because I'm upset........

I feel like I'm in an endless torture chamber and the next room is filled with even more torture (going through D proceedings) and after that it still continues.

I know how painful a D is. I know and am still living through the pain of seeing xWH with family occasions, and losing friends and his family.

DAMN, it's because we are good people who care that we hurt so much. Those WS's don't really care, so they don't hurt, nor do they fully feel our pain.

Sorry, thought I was doing so good, too.

Parent/teacher night, and I'm going ALONE as usual again. <sigh>

[This message edited by honesttoafault at 5:19 PM, September 30th (Thursday)]


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Dip, I guess we were cross posting.

Your post made me smile, thank you. Just the thought of WH sitting on a 11 hour flight like that!!

As for the donkeys, I will hold back my comments, although WH is a real ASS!


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G' Night Tribe. Tomorrow I get the answer.

I have survivied infidelity, not to see if my M will survice.

I love each and every one of you, and appreciate all of your support.

-- Ats


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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