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User Topic: N. P.D Thread - Part VI
somer222
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Default  Posted: 12:22 AM, February 19th (Thursday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wow - reading all of this just makes me nod my head over and over again.

My ex is NPD and a sex addict, too. The anti-depressants my doc prescribed helped me so much as I ended my marriage. I'm off them now, by choice, but I couldn't have made it without them.

I'm sorry we all had to go through through this but I know I can say it won't ever happen to me again!

[This message edited by somer222 at 12:38 AM, February 19th (Thursday)]


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peridot
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Default  Posted: 12:34 AM, February 20th (Friday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

We've been seperated almost a year now and as each day passes I am finding myself happier and more alive. It's nice not having to walk on eggshells.I guess that I am starting to feel like my old self again.


I think...therefore, I'm single.

It is what it is.


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lied2
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Default  Posted: 11:26 PM, February 20th (Friday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

That is awesome peridot. I know the feeling. I look at my ex and wonder how the heck I lived like that. I like my life better now for the lost part. Some things are far harder but over all it is a real improvement than it was.

I was surviving living with my ex and now I am able to live.


The grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence. It is astro turf.

The essence of love is not what we think or do or provide for others, but how much we give of ourselves.


A clean house is the sign of a broken computer.


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veritas
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Default  Posted: 5:02 PM, February 26th (Thursday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Mine's period of niceness did not last long at all. Less than a week. My second son worked a lot of hours on an erosion project and got only 3 points off on it. Naturally, Dr. Asshole McLoserpants could have done a much better job and wanted to redo the project at home and wanted to know how to make the boys take him seriously. I pointed out that the backyard alone had 4 failed projects in it and the best way for him to be taken seriously was to actually finish something. That started a very long bit of kookus because he started attacking me and wondering why I didn't finish the projects that he started.

The icing was that The Giant lost her job (she was "laid off" but she was the only person in the company who was laid off!) and so he texted her for a good hour before she finally responded (she had taken him out of her phone, ha ha). When I found this out (he basically told on himself), I just quit engaging with him. When I stopped, he got even worse. He said I was crazy, that I made things up and he was the victim, even that I had some woman's blood on my hands! Hello, dickhead, you have MY blood on your hands!

I found the exchange tiresome and incredulous. He found it arousing! He was saying that I was making myself horny by fighting with him! I just wanted to gag... ugh.

Divorce, while it's going to be ugly, will ultimately be for the best.


Actions unmask what words disguise.
Love many; trust few; and always paddle your own canoe.
When you win, you teach; when you lose, you learn.

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Default  Posted: 9:09 PM, February 26th (Thursday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((veritas))))

(((tribe)))


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
OC born 2001
Divorced 2003
Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


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lied2
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Default  Posted: 9:30 PM, February 26th (Thursday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

he started attacking me and wondering why I didn't finish the projects that he started

OMG that is so my ex. He left holes in walls and stuff falling around our ears and it was my responsibility to fix all the projects he screwed up.

Good job for not engaging Mr. Loserpants. and hugs to your kids for putting up with such a %^&$^&%*) father.


The grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence. It is astro turf.

The essence of love is not what we think or do or provide for others, but how much we give of ourselves.


A clean house is the sign of a broken computer.


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peridot
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Default  Posted: 11:33 PM, February 27th (Friday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Is not finishing things a NPD trait? My STBXH did the same things.

Verita, wtg for sticking up for yourself and the kids.

Why in the hell does everything revolve around sex with these freaks?


I think...therefore, I'm single.

It is what it is.


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Default  Posted: 12:47 AM, February 28th (Saturday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((Tribe)))
I believe that this link has been posted before. Good stuff !!!

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http://www.ultimate-self.com/

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lied2
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Default  Posted: 5:55 PM, February 28th (Saturday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Great link Bob. Thanks


The grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence. It is astro turf.

The essence of love is not what we think or do or provide for others, but how much we give of ourselves.


A clean house is the sign of a broken computer.


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veritas
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Default  Posted: 10:52 AM, March 2nd (Monday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I hope everybody had a good weekend! Mine is starting therapy because he's violent, and I'm sure that his therapy session did not go as he had planned. The one time we went to marriage counseling, he told the counselor a pack of lies and tried to bamboozle her; in addition, she wasn't spending any time on individual issues and was very deferential toward him. In individual counseling, the focus will totally be on him and his issues, which I am sure he is not going to like. Needless to say, he picked fights with me all weekend and was a total jackass. He seemed to have settled down by Sunday... somewhat. Which just goes to show you that he can control himself; he just doesn't want to.

Hugs to all of you trying to disentangle yourself from NPD nuts. Detachment is the key. If I hadn't detached myself from him I would be stone cold crazy by now, but I am at the point where very little of what he says actually touches me personally. You have to remember that just like your NPD puts on a lovely, charming mask for people they want to impress, the only emotion that they are capable of showing is rage and anger. It's always there, seething under the surface. YOU and your kids see the real, ugly, hideous person; everybody else only knows the mask.


Actions unmask what words disguise.
Love many; trust few; and always paddle your own canoe.
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lied2
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Default  Posted: 1:48 PM, March 2nd (Monday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

NPD and therapy. Anyone want to take bets on how long that will last. I vote for 3 sessions.

My ex did some because it was the only way he could keep his job. Another time it was court ordered. I am sure he put on a pretty face but I can see from his behaviours he didn't learn alot other than how to keep the mask in place longer each time.


The grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence. It is astro turf.

The essence of love is not what we think or do or provide for others, but how much we give of ourselves.


A clean house is the sign of a broken computer.


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sadtoo
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Default  Posted: 3:23 PM, March 2nd (Monday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Same with mine. He went once because his job made him go and another time because it was court ordered. We tried marriage counseling, and he did fine as long as the therapist was focused on me and "my" problems. But when they swtched to find out what he may have contributed to the deteriation of the marriage, he shut down, became angry, defensive and announced that we were there because of "HER problblems!!"

I think he made it two or three sessions. He told the therapist that they needed to help me get over my "paranoia problem" so I would "get off his back and quit wrongfully accusing him of adultery."

Meanwhile he's taking his latest affair deeper into secrecy and trying to keep his former OW and his OC also secret.

He was completely useless around the house. He would start these projects that didn't even need done. He would have these ideas for re-doing things around the house that had no basis what-so-ever. It was like he just wanted to hear himself talk. Then, even if we didn't agree on doing it, he would do it anyway. It would end up being a disaster and I would be left with the mess. I would either have to fix it myself or hire someone else to fix it.

It was maddening.


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
OC born 2001
Divorced 2003
Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


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veritas
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Default  Posted: 4:03 PM, March 2nd (Monday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The last time he went to therapy, it lasted 1 session. He had made an appointment for a second one, but I guess he decided that he could do this on his own (not with an overwhelming sense of entitlement, you can't). Apparently, he spent his session bitching about me and housework, because phone calls to cleaners appeared on the phone bill. I guess they told him that if he didn't like the condition of the house, he needed to do something other than bitch and moan about it. Needless to say, Mr. Cheapo didn't go for it and I presume he's still mad about housework because he doesn't do any.

The first time he went was several years ago, voluntarily for domestic abuse intervention. He had to go out of town for work in the middle of the 16-week program and when he got back, he said that he didn't have to finish the program, that he was cured, and that he had done so well that not only were they giving him a pass not to finish, they wanted him to be a mentor to other guys in the program. Can you believe that I was once so naive and trusting that I believed this crap???

He was completely useless around the house. He would start these projects that didn't even need done. He would have these ideas for re-doing things around the house that had no basis what-so-ever. It was like he just wanted to hear himself talk. Then, even if we didn't agree on doing it, he would do it anyway. It would end up being a disaster and I would be left with the mess. I would either have to fix it myself or hire someone else to fix it.

It was maddening.

That is so him and maddening is such a good word for it. We have 8 gallons of paint sitting in the living room because he pushed me into 1 wall and he punched a hole with his elbow in another wall. He finally got them replastered after 1 year. Then he decided that he was going to test his painting skills on his computer room. It ended up that the boys painted the computer room, and once they finished that, he had no interest in doing the rest of the house. The door to the computer room is still wrapped in blue tape, off its hinges., leaning against a wall.

[This message edited by veritas at 4:07 PM, March 2nd (Monday)]


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sadtoo
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Default  Posted: 5:10 PM, March 2nd (Monday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I swear these guys are all cut from the same cloth.

Mine used our M/C sessions to bitch about my house cleaning abilities too!! I had a cleaning service before we got married because I worked full time plus and never had the time to keep up with the house. He decided after we were married that it was a waste of money. (Mr. Cheapo.) Then all he did was bitch because the house wasn't as clean or cleaned the way or in the order he wanted it.

[my spine is tightening up just thinking about this]

He would even complain about how I organized my cleaning supplies. He insisted that I have a bottle of this or that in the kitchen and in each of the bathrooms. I always just kept ONE bottle of each brand of what I liked and worked for me in the broom closet. I carried it from room to room when I cleaned. He insisted that I buy this no-name bargain crap that didn't work and put it under the sink in every bathroom. "Hello!! I need room for the f'ing towels, you IDIOT!!!"

Argh!! I'm not kidding. He would BITCH non stop about that. If I went and bought the stuff that I like, he would scream and yell for days.

This is funny because our MC also told him that if he wasn't happy about the way I cleaned the house he needed to stop bitching and do himself. I loved that. But of course he did neither.

Can you believe that I was once so naive and trusting that I believed this crap???

I'm embarassed to tell you some of the things he told me that I believed. I look back and I can't believe how stupid I was.

While I was married to that idiot, my house was a complete disaster area. There were NO interior doors at all. The master bedroom was completely gutted and my basement was ripped apart. After he left, I think it was only a year or two and I had everything done. New doors put on, the bathrooms tiled and put back together, the basement re-done. It looks great and I didn't have to have some lame-brain arguement about something that meant nothing.

I'll share one that was so insane:

My house is an older (late 50's) open floor plan. The kitchen originally was tucked back into a corner with one of those shoop-shoop doors like Hazel had....remember? There was also a pass-through type counter into the livingroom. It wasn't a counter or a snack bar, it was just sort of a look through type of thing. I wanted to knock out the wall with the door and open up the kitchen and take out the pass through so the kitchen became part of the living area. There was some coving along the ceiling that remained and I wanted that to come down so we could have a smooth ceiling all the way across so there was no definition to the rooms. Well, idiot XNPDH wanted to leave that coving hanging up there from the ceiling (looking totally stupid) because he said, "It would keep the scents in the kitchen."

I was like, "WTF are you talking about? If I'm in there baking bread and roasting a turkey, you're not only going to smell the scents throughout this whole house, you're also going to smell the "scents" out in the yard. That little bit of coving isn't going to keep it in the kitchen"

[This message edited by sadtoo at 5:10 PM, March 2nd (Monday)]


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
OC born 2001
Divorced 2003
Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


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lied2
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Default  Posted: 11:08 PM, March 2nd (Monday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My house had holes in every room. Of course since I stayed home wand "didn't work" I was expected to do all the renos and take care of the special needs kids and housework. It was an impossible task but I worked at it and did alot. He would start things and mess them up so bad. I swear he scred it up so he didn't have to finish I never would ask for his help again. Of course then he felt his job was bitching about the stuff instead. Would he care for the kids while I would do the work. Nope...too much for him to handle.

I doubt he has changed much. I head he installed his new dishwasher a while back and not 3 months later it doesn't work worth crap. He asked me if I knew what he did wrong.

I think at the core of it all they are just lazy. They want the adulation without the work. They want to be married to beautiful, sexy, slaves who are ready to wait on them hand and foot and then spent the rest of their time doing all the work.

Gosh I am so happy to be divorced. If the project takes 3 times as long so be it. If its not done the way it is 'supposed' to be done but works and looks fine why not? I get a giggle looking at part sof my house now. I know my ex would just hate the stuff I have done. The bits he has seen he makes pot-shot remarks about.

The kids were telling me that his wifetress wants him to do some painting because their house has green walls and she wants then dirt coloured. I wonder what she thinks of painter's tape trim.


The grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence. It is astro turf.

The essence of love is not what we think or do or provide for others, but how much we give of ourselves.


A clean house is the sign of a broken computer.


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veritas
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Default  Posted: 8:03 AM, March 3rd (Tuesday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Argh!! I'm not kidding. He would BITCH non stop about that. If I went and bought the stuff that I like, he would scream and yell for days.

Trust me, I believe you! Mine only likes Comet and Vinegar. Comet is a bitch to get off everything; I much prefer Soft Scrub or Lime-Away -- when it comes right down to it, I should be able to buy whatever I want because I'm doing all the cleaning. The only mop he "approved" was a plain old cotton mop. I'd buy the kind that have the head that let you wring them out, and he'd throw them in the garbage. The head was detachable and washable; the cotton mop had to be replaced every so often. This one didn't, and he still hated it. Swiffer? Waste of money. It makes cleaning too easy (wtf?).

He threw a screaming tantrum the other day because I was washing jeans and towels together. I wash them together because neither requires fabric softener (towels lose their absorbency, so I only wash the fancy towels with fabric softener). Afterwards he said, "I suppose this makes me a dick, right? This could have been bothering me for 13 years!"

And of course, he's got a list of household rules:

1) I cannot call what I cook gumbo because it has meat in it. Gumbo should always have okra and never have meat, unless it's sausage (I don't get it either). He will call other people's stuff gumbo, but not mine.

2) If I cook noodles or mashed potatoes and corn is a side dish, whole kernel corn is to be used. If I cook rice, cream-style corn is to be used.

3) My gravy is bad.

4) My fried eggs are disgusting and not worthy to be called fried eggs (he has since then recanted this).

5) Clothes is to be put away immediately. If it is not put away immediately, it is assumed that the owner does not care about it, or that it has become dirty. It is therefore subject to be thrown with the dirty clothes again. Or just plain on the floor.

6) His dirty clothes is not to be mixed with everybody else's dirty clothes.

7) And so on, and so forth.

It's no wonder that I tense up the minute I walk in that house. There are so many stupid rules, I feel absolutely paralyzed. I'd love nothing better to have a few days without him breathing down my neck so I could actually get stuff done, but his girlfriends have boyfriends now and no time for him; and most of his friends have grown up and actually spend time with their families because they enjoy it, unlike him who only does because he has no one else.

The kids were telling me that his wifetress wants him to do some painting because their house has green walls and she wants then dirt coloured. I wonder what she thinks of painter's tape trim.

Don't get me started on keeping up with low-class people. I swear, he told me he was going to hire the former prostitute-stripper who lived next door to redecorate our house! He wanted to paint our walls lemon yellow because that's what color she painted hers (for the record, the furniture is a very dark brown leather, the wooden furniture/accents in the room are medium brown, and the carpet is burgundy/green, as is the bathroom right off of the living room). We've got a huge mound of dirt in the back yard growing weeds because one of his hick friends decided they were going to build something with dirt. The pool hasn't been cleaned in two years, the shed is falling down, the house needs to be cleaned and repainted, we've got 3 broken interior doors, the front door is permanently locked because otherwise it just stays open -- I could go on for days. And if I was to get somebody to fix it, he'd be mad and course he would have done but he surely can't do it now, because it's done. And of course whoever did it did a bad job and he could have done better for so much less money.

[This message edited by veritas at 9:49 AM, March 3rd (Tuesday)]


Actions unmask what words disguise.
Love many; trust few; and always paddle your own canoe.
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sadtoo
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Default  Posted: 9:05 AM, March 3rd (Tuesday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Veritas,
Are you married to my XNPDH?

The similarities are shocking.

Mine bitched about my cooking too. And I am a GREAT cook. (not to sound npd here, lol) Nobody has EVER complained about my cooking. I grew up on a farm and learned how to cook everything from scratch. Nothing comes out of a box or a jar. It's all made the good old fashioned way.

My XNPDH was HALF italian. His father was italian and his mother was SWEEDISH. But XNPD never acknowledged the sweedish part and just claimed to be all italian. Acted liked he was born and raised over there when he'd never even set foot in the country.

I would make my spagetti and meatballs (that most people would RAVE about) and he would say, "This is not authentic italian food. It's a disgrace to even call it that. It's so americanized."

WTF??!! Like he was some f'ing authority on authentic italian food.

He bitched about my gumbo too. It wasn't authentic either. He somehow knew that too because his father was born and raised in New Orlenes. I think idiot XNPDH had been there as a child but not since as an adult.

I got my recipe from Emeril Lugasse. I think he's authentic.

LIed, I think you're right about this.

I think at the core of it all they are just lazy. They want the adulation without the work. They want to be married to beautiful, sexy, slaves who are ready to wait on them hand and foot and then spent the rest of their time doing all the work.


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
OC born 2001
Divorced 2003
Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


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lied2
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Mine bitched about the cooking but did he ever cook?

Before we married he would cook for himself since his mother was away all summer and he would have starved. (yes he lived with mommy until we married.) He would cook spagetti and lasagna because he love them and they had to be 'his' way. After we married he suddenly forgot how to took and said hever learned He totally hated my spagetti and lasagna (I hate lasagna anyways) so it got the point where I refused to cook it.

Mine was also bothered by cooking smells. He would often act like he was dying if something 'smelled' and it was apparently making his 'sick' (can you say delusional) His idea of cooking was opening some cans. He refused to even do simple meals like KD or hamburger helper where the instructions are right on the box. Nope he 'can't cook'.

Isn't it a good thing that their dicks don't come with instruction manuals. They would never read it to make the thing work.

Every time the kids have told me he is working on the house or the car I have to laugh. I can just imagine what kind of mess he is making of the things. Get upset and beat the hell out of stuff because it won't do what he wants and then storm off leaving the mess for someone else to clean up. If he does clean up the stuff is in a box someplace and then shoved in the corned. He needs 20 sets of something because he lost the other 19 into a box some place. The only advantage to that was that there was enough tools to split that I actually got some decent ones.

Mine would always toss the clothing on the floor and then into the laundry after wearing it a few hours. I had so much less laundry when he moved out. :) Apparently now he does his own laundry. It is kind of funny to see him still show up here in clothes I bought him. He moved out 5 1/2 yrs ago and he is still wearing some of the same clothing (mind you it is stretched over his gut now). I have seen some thing she has bought him. Loverly flowered ties and a pretty flowered dress shirt. She loves flowers.

At times I find myself 1/2 wondering if they 'grow up' for these new women but I know deep down that it will only be a matter of time before the tire of the the good behaviour and get lazy again. I know my ex initially too pride in the house but over time he started take credit for the work I did and just picking fights when work needed to be done so he could storm off and not help at all. He had to be the 'boss' of the work and I had to do exactly what he told me to even when he had no clue what had to be done. If he was not in control he would make life as difficult as possible and undermine what I was doing. Of course he would also not care for the kids so I could work.

Being single is so much easier.


The grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence. It is astro turf.

The essence of love is not what we think or do or provide for others, but how much we give of ourselves.


A clean house is the sign of a broken computer.


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sadtoo
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Default  Posted: 12:57 PM, March 3rd (Tuesday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Lied,
I sometimes find myself wondering if he has finally grown up for this OW too. Even though I KNOW deep down that it's not true, it does seem like they've been together longer now than we were married. But if you count the time were together she's got about three years to go. Plus, one has to wonder why they are not married yet. They were engaged before we were even seperated and had the wedding planned and the date set. The date came and went and we still weren't divorced. Then as far as I know, they are still not married.

I hear bits and pieces from time and it sounds like he is still the same nightmare he has always been.

Sucks to be her.


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
OC born 2001
Divorced 2003
Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


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veritas
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Default  Posted: 4:07 PM, March 3rd (Tuesday), 2009View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Mine bitched about the cooking but did he ever cook?

Hell no. He rarely cleans or does laundry, either, but he is an expert on all 3 things.

Before we married he would cook for himself since his mother was away all summer and he would have starved. (yes he lived with mommy until we married.) He would cook spagetti and lasagna because he love them and they had to be 'his' way. After we married he suddenly forgot how to took and said hever learned He totally hated my spagetti and lasagna (I hate lasagna anyways) so it got the point where I refused to cook it.

Mine lived on his own from the time he was 18. He cooked until he acquired a cook -- me. He forgot, too.

Mine was also bothered by cooking smells. He would often act like he was dying if something 'smelled' and it was apparently making his 'sick' (can you say delusional)

Mine was bothered by smells, period. Part of his phobia was that he himself smelled, so certain things he bought (deodorant, soap) had to be unscented or pretty damned near, even though he drenched himself in the cheapest colognes ever. He had a bottle of cheap cologne in every work bag and also at work.

Isn't it a good thing that their dicks don't come with instruction manuals. They would never read it to make the thing work.

They don't need to! They are automatic experts (and come to think about it, pretty bad at that too. foreplay many nights was me rubbing k=y on myself after I got out of the shower).

storm off leaving the mess for someone else to clean up.

He was fixing the toilet the other day. I had to come CLEAN THE TOILET while it was IN PIECES.

If he does clean up the stuff is in a box someplace and then shoved in the corned.

Paint, boxes, just about every damned thing. He does not believe in buying functional furniture or using shelving, especially if he didn't have such a piece of furniture in his house when he was growing up.

He had to be the 'boss' of the work and I had to do exactly what he told me to even when he had no clue what had to be done. If he was not in control he would make life as difficult as possible and undermine what I was doing. Of course he would also not care for the kids so I could work.

Check, check, and check. It's like they mass produce them somewhere, give them either an indulgent or NPD parent, then foist them off to unsuspecting naive folks like ourselves.

[This message edited by veritas at 4:08 PM, March 3rd (Tuesday)]


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Love many; trust few; and always paddle your own canoe.
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