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User Topic: N.P.D. Thread Part V
itsabattle
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Default  Posted: 2:53 PM, February 6th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

She is bonkers! She is also trying to wind you up whilst in complete denial about her own behaviour. You will never be able to persuade her otherwise.

"Enjoy life a little and stop being so crazy".

There is no evidence of her feeling guilt for anything she has done either. She is making it out so that you look like you are the one with the problem. She is manipulative.

Sorry bob.


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bobelina
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Default  Posted: 3:22 PM, February 6th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((Itsa)))
As you've said:
"There is no evidence of her feeling guilt for anything she has done either. She is making it out so that you look like you are the one with the problem. She is manipulative."

(((Tribe)))
I feel that these email exchanges are a benefit in that they are documented. She does not directly address the issues. She just spews forth the N-Script.
I've tried since the kids and I left to get schedules and, procedures and parenting stuff in place. As above that Itsa stated, STBXPDW is manipulative.
But at least it's documented. It does show I believe, amongst other things, that she is uncooperative. And her pathology.
It is shown, I believe in her style of writing, that she is not in touch with the issues or what's being communicated to her. She is only aware of her own inner distress and I believe that this is shown by her not having context closely related to the communication sent to her.
Yes. Manipulation. Blame shifting. No sense of responsibility. Deflection. She turns the conversation into something that is only relative, to those who know of PDs, about her.
Not the kids. Not whats right. Not to resolve anything unless of course it is all about her.
I do find a sense of satisfaction in reading her responses. They are interesting. I now see how for all those years I got sidetracked from the issues and the subject would end up somewhere else and that I was now in trouble. LOL.

BoB


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Default  Posted: 4:19 PM, February 6th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((Tribe)))
New word for the N-Vocabulary to describe our disordered friends. This was posted elsewhere. It's beautiful:

NHOLE!!!

LOL.


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Default  Posted: 4:41 PM, February 6th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Bob, i know it's hard, but the best thing you can do is document *elsewhere* what she is doing not to cooperate, and keep the emails simple and accusation-less.

Here's the simple truth - she's behaving like an ass. As some point, this will be evident in her emails.

What MIGHT happen, though, is she will turn this around and claim YOU are goading her into reactions. That poor, downtrodden her is simply trying to deal with Overbearing Bob.

For example, your email today should have said, AT MOST:

"As you already know, school was cancelled today and the kids stayed with me. As you are scheduled to pick them up at 3pm from school, you can just pick them up from my house at 3pm instead."

Then, in OTHER notes not sent to her, you document text messages, emails, and other voicemails left with the kids where she was trying to get them to handle the arrangements. Why?

Because you don't need to convince her what she is doing is wrong - she already knows that and doesn't give a flip. The reason you are saving all this information, writing it all down, is for OTHER PEOPLE. to prove to OTHERS that what she says and what she does don't match - that she claims to want this custody arrangement but shits all over it.

So telling her she's being a bad girl via email does nothing more than allow her to see that 1) she is getting to you and 2) you've been doing your homework.

NC, Bob. Only minimal contact, period. It was a sanity saver for me.


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Default  Posted: 4:46 PM, February 6th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Itsa,

The intentional cruelty is so shocking. If you're like me when this type of behavior first occured (earlier in the marriage) you probably thought he just had a momentary lapse of judgement. It seemed I was always giving my XNPDH the benefit of the doubt or coming up with some excuse for his bizarre behavior. It was just too much to beleive or accept that the things he did were intentional. Even when I got out, it was difficult to accept that I had spend ANY part of my life with an individual capable of this type on intentional cruelty.

I found myself angry with him but suprisingly, I was almost more angry with myself. How could this have happened? Why didn't I see? How stupid could I have been?

I think for you, this is a sign of healing. You are seeing him for what he is, not what you hope he can be. You're not thinking he could or might get better, you're seeing the creep for what he is. Anger is another sign of healing.

Things may never be the same for you. I know for me they are not and I have accepted that. I mourned my losses and went on. Some of mine are the same as yours:

My youth, having children, my innocent outlook on life, trust in people.

Now I find myself being suspicious of others, I'm more paranoid than I've ever been. I check, double check and triple check my locks and security system. I always look around when I walk to my vehicle.....etc, etc. I hate it, but this is the way it is.

Time does help. Just having him out of my house and not having any legal ties to him any longer have made things so much better. It's been a good trade-off.


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

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sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
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Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


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(((landabear)))
I like it !!!
Yeah, I agree with all that you said. Once in awhile I do feel that it is good that I say "something". Although I document, and I do not have much contact with her other than kids "here or there" and the "don't send messages thru the kids", attempts at scheduling, etc., I feel that once in awhile it is good to add more, be more specfic, more, more, more.
I feel that it gives her a chance, via email, to be notified of the grievances and how her behavior is being interpeted. To occasionally let her know that it's unacceptable or what ever. Why? Cause I feel it helps to show that I have not been "arbitrarily" making decisions as she states. Others will eventually see not only my documentation, but the emails also. And to be maybe a bit of a dick, as in "I see you and knock it off".
She's given a chance to respond.
Does that make sense? Or am I full of shit? LOL.

BoB ;)
He who is not trying to be Naughty. LOL.

P.S. In regards to the emails I've sent her and the feedback, I do find it interesting what is said about what I've done.

Do I come across as being an ass?

Am I overstepping my bounds?

Am I overreacting to comments when I explain why I'd email?

I do often question my role in all this and I do try to monitor my level of assholed-ness. LOL.

Seriously though. I still don't always feel out of the woods yet on all the abuse this woman and my mother dished out at me over the years. My barometer is still faulty. I still feel my judgement and accurately reading situations is still askew, KWIM? (I've never used the phrase KMIW. I'm finding it quite useful these days).

I won't bullshit you guys, I still see my self in these descriptions of Narcissism although I don't see myself as malignant. And that scares the Hell out of me.

I took the NPA test today at:

http://www.npatheory.com/

and it says I'm Narcissistic. Pure N. Then again your choices are Aggressive, Narcissistic and a mix of both with or without P for Perfectionism. It does scare me. I'd hate to someday find out that I'm a monster. I think that that would be pretty damned icky. LOL.

N-BoB LOL.

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(((Tribe)))
I'll tell you a little N-Story about my self.

My mother and STBXPDW had often referred to me and called me selfish, a perfectionist. That hurt. And it hurt a lot.
I was always scared to death of saying or doing something stupid, as coming across as what they called me and or being conceited.
I work in the music world. I'm a music production dude. Computers and DAWS and sequencers and stuff. And bitching guitar playing. I'm know for being really good at what I do. Saying that has always scared me. It screams in my head my wife always saying, "You think your better than everyone else", "Your an asshole".
I've worked with clients who wanted me because of these attributes and then would tear me down for it, I believe, cause it would challenge their grandiosity. They would want what I had, be like me, whatever. But than they would, like my mother and wife did, rail on me for being anal-retentive and as above. When they worked with me and saw how I did what I did, the amount of concentration, the attention to detail, the amount of work involved all hell could break loose. I've been attacked in the studio cause some client would get freaked out about something. All that stuff you see in the news about people getting killed at a recording studio is true. Anyways.
Being "worshipped" for my skills and then being "demonized" for my skills have hurt me way down inside. That has always hurt me really bad. To the point that I would just shut up and would rarely talk about my work or who I worked with or what I've done. It is one of the reasons I've walked away from my career field more than once.
I understand more and more the damage done to me.

Anyways,

Where I teach we had a director who was an N in retrospect. The flaming type. He made a lot of peoples lives hell.
He was my friend but as time went on I saw how he earned his "Reign of Terror" reputation. He started messing with me too. I began to distance myself from him.
He claimed the same expertise in our field as I. But he was no expert. Not even close.
The music he wrote was awesome. Execution, which is what we teach, not very good.
He wanted me to submit his work to the people I write for. It didn't pass the mustard. At all.
One day a coworker was crying in the teachers lounge. I'd asked her what happened. She said the N was threatening her job again and being an all around ass. I went looking for him. If I had found him I may very well have punched his lights out. This wasn't the first time he'd done this. Or the 20th.
Anyways, a coworker, who became dept. chair after the end of this story transcribes, came to my house and we hung out. He told me I can't go after this guy, he's an untouchable, I'll get fired, etc. I said bullshit. It ends now.
We had a big meeting where the N was giving out false info as the gospel and had his shit all mixed up. I hammered him on his "expertise". I corrected him constantly. I walked up to the front of the classroom and re-taught the material he had just incorrectly taught. People loved it as he was getting his. He left the room in a major huff. As I was doing this my boss was staring at me in disbelief and my coworkers.
At the break I asked them to stand with me. They'd been bitching about the guy for years. Not a single one would stand with me.
I got pulled into the big bosses office and told I couldn't do that. I said, Yes I can" and "It's time for him to go", "Enough is enough," and I laid out all of his abuses, his misappropriation of funds and equipment, etc.
I got bitched out some more. Some coworkers later told me I can't do that and this and that. I said "You have complained and bitched about this guy since the day I started. Yet you won't stand up to him Quit your bitching as you have no right and no foot to stand on, if you will not stick your neck out and take action and do the right thing". "Your acting like a bunch of pussies. Since you'r to chickenshit to be a man, I'll take care of this myself".
The Fucktard*Asshat*N got caught and fired within three days. Years of bitchin' could have been resolved in days. I was made a hero. What*Fucking*Ever. Anybody could have done what I did if they weren't so damned scared and grew some balls and did the right thing.
Oh yeah and the N "claimed" he left cause he out grew the place or some other similar bullshit. Sidenote:STBXPDW later gave me hell for doing this. She thought it was bad or wrong or something. I wonder if in her sick, twisted, N-Mind she saw an omen or precursor of what was to come. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.......

This is how I look at this crap with STBXPDW. Grow some balls and do the right thing. It's gonna be messy. It's not gonna be pretty. You run the risk of looking really bad, or an asshole, or all the things she is. But this is not about me or her or what the hell it looks like to the outside. She's fucking with the kids. Her kids. No mom does that. Only Monsters do that.
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Maybe to much info about me. Maybe not. KWIM? (LOL).

N-BoB


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BoB, you are NOT NPD. I don't care what kind of test you took. For one thing, you have far too much compassion and true concern for your impact on others to be NPD. I think that much of what you describe is the affect of LIVING with someone with NPD. Yes, hell yes, it hurts to be criticized unfairly. That's very different from a narcissist's response. I think that many of us have been criticized and verbally battered to such an extent that we hunger for approval and cringe at any criticism and that's something that we have to work on, but it AIN'T narcissism. It's one of the results of the abuse.

I think most of us, at some point, experience the same fears, and, as we've all heard before, if you're afraid that you might be NPD, you AIN'T! 'Cause they're all damned sure that they are AOK.

Now, about your communications with her. Listen to landa. The issue is not at all about whether your feelings are justified. OF COURSE THEY ARE. The issue is that she is manipulating you. She is punching your buttons. She is pushing you to the limit and daring you to say something. She is trying to make you look like the one with the issues. Don't let her do that!

Stop trying to educate her. Your sole purpose in communicating with her should be simply to exchange information. Turn it around and force HER to do the reacting. Leave all and any accusations or extra information of any kind out of it. Keep anything remotely personal or emotional out of it. Yes, it's hard to do, but you MUST do it. If you do, it will put her NPD ass in the limelight.

If she departs from the mediation papers, you just write a brief, to-the-point factual note/reminder. Like this, maybe: "Today, you called the girls to change the arrangements for picking them up. The mediation agreement states that you must make these arrangements with me via e-mail. Please abide by the mediation agreement."

Do you see what I mean, BoB. No blame. No discussion. No AMMUNITION. Just plain, simple statements and requests that she do what the court said she should do. No matter how many times you repeat it. Now matter what she says in response. Just the facts. No frills. Let HER provide all of the frills! Am I making sense?

As for your story--DUDE! You are my BROTHER! I'm proud of you. I wish more people would stop taking that kind of crap. And hey--if you're good, you're good. You don't pretend to be good at everything. You are not obligated to feign mediocrity at the things that you're good at. Anyone who can't deal with that needs to get a life!

Anyways, dear, don't take the bait. Stay as calm as you can. Breathe. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER respond to her texts messages instantly. In fact, if that is not one of the "accepted" methods of communicating, you don't have to respond at all.

Be calm, simple, direct. Don't tell her what she is. Let her do that.

(((((BoB)))))

You are a good person. You will be OK.

Love ya,
LL


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landabear
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Default  Posted: 8:35 PM, February 6th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

This is how I look at this crap with STBXPDW. Grow some balls and do the right thing. It's gonna be messy. It's not gonna be pretty. You run the risk of looking really bad, or an asshole, or all the things she is. But this is not about me or her or what the hell it looks like to the outside. She's fucking with the kids. Her kids. No mom does that. Only Monsters do that.
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Well, yes, your sense of right and wrong, of righteous indignation, makes you want to respond, to lash out, to tell her and the world that you don't buy the bullshit and won't even pretend you do.

But what's the point? What is the end result of throwing all that energy towards HER (the black hole), and not towards something else? Because we don't have infinite amounts of energy. We only have so much to give, and directing some of it towards her will NOT get you anything in return.

Look at your end goals. What are they? If it is limiting the amount of influence that waste of space has on your life and your children's upbringing, then determine what works best towards that goal.

Unfortunately, I've found in the 2 years my divorce has been final, the normal person must be above reproach. Must conduct themselves like they have nerves of steel when dealing with the N.

Is this hard? Absolutely. But I promise you - PROMISE - that saying *less* to her will get you the desired effect you want, and SOONER that railing against her will do.

Because ANY ATTENTION YOU GIVE HER IS GOOD. She likes it all. It makes her happy that you've noticed she's been bad. It makes her happy that you are angry about it, and riled up about it.

But be quiet? Oh, now that's power. Because then SHE will come to YOU looking for the attention. And you will gather a shitload of information while she's pretending to be nice. I gather more information from my ex in a 30 second exchange in which he is getting NO input from me than when I attempt to reason with him.

I know this is rambly, I'm tired and I'm doing the best I can, but essentially: less is more. It's hard, you will be right in wanting to say something, tell her she's not getting one past you, but IT WON'T HELP YOU ACHIEVE YOUR GOALS AND IT STILL PUTS YOU IN THE POSITION OF BEING HER SUPPLY.

P.S. Don't take those personality tests this close to everything happening. You are too mired in the muck, and unfortunately, at least in my case, my results were still being skewed by what HE had planted in my head. 2 years ago, I would have sworn that I was a controlling, frigid bitch. It couldn't be further from the truth, but at the time HE had convinced me of it and the tests I took just reflected what I *thought* to be true, not what actually *IS* true.


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Default  Posted: 8:40 PM, February 6th (Wednesday), 2008View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

<i>Anyways, dear, don't take the bait. Stay as calm as you can. Breathe. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER respond to her texts messages instantly. In fact, if that is not one of the "accepted" methods of communicating, you don't have to respond at all. </i>

I second and third this. Nobody will die if she has to wait a day to get your response.

If I have to email my N for any reason,I usually write it out, then let it sit for an hour and go back and edit it. It's not NATURAL to be so....unemotional when communicating with another human being, but you MUST be to keep yourself out of the fray.

Then, when you get one from her....let it sit. Just let it sit, right there, until you are calm. And I mean REALLY calm. I still feel my blood pressure rising when dealing with my N, and when I can tell it's one of THOSE days, I just let that little message sit right where it is, unanswered, for DAYS.

It's really quite empowering. Conquering. Because you have been trained by her, by your N, to respond not only a certain way, but INSTANTLY.

Take that away from her, Bob.


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(((LL))) & (((Landa)))
Thank you big sisters !!!

Lil' BoB


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(((Tribe))) of Lightbulbs and Toasters, AKA: The N-Survivors Club, AKA: The Club of and From Hell, AKA: The Island of Misfit Toys,

I FOUND IT !!! I FOUND IT !!! I FOUND IT !!!

I found their damned manual !!!:
http://evil-guide.tripod.com/

BoB


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[This message edited by jjct at 8:08 PM, February 19th (Tuesday)]


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(((JJCT)))
Hmmmmmmmmmm.........................
Rereading the emails between STBXPDW and I, I see what you mean (Hint, Hint). LOL.

BoB

ETA: Clarification of my "Hint, Hint" statement.
I had hoped that I wrote in a boring though understandable format. LOL. That I had stated the facts as I know them. And that the statements I made particularly in my response to her first email had made it clear that she was "bound" by the mediation documents and that she cannot "make up her own rules" as to how "reality" functions. KWIM? LOL.

Then again, maybe that didn't come across. LOL. I'd thought that for us and not particularily her that her "grandiosity" and "entitlement" were challanged and or flat out denied. She is a "commoner" like the rest of us and "has" to abide by the same rules. LOL.
I hadn't intended to be mean but I did intend to challange her assumptions in a way that only an N would understand.
She by defintion, does not care about the kids, she is only concerned about herself. I believe that those emails for an N, were devistating as she cannot be an N according to her logic by those statements. Does that make sense?
I can tell you that she's pissed about those statements as they "told" her how it is. And that she is "controlled" by the law although she tried to twist it in her response that "I" don't control her. Misplaced N focus. With what I've said it leaves but one reponse for her as an N, raging bullying defiance=lack of control. Either way she loses in the N-scheme of things although that "loss" was surely repressed. KWIM? LOL.

So in the end, as we all know, there is no negotiating, no compromise, etc. with an N. But there is Narcissistic Injury. They are susceptible to that. I believe that how I phrased things are to an N, a source of Narcissistic Injury, not for injury, pain or discomforts sake to her, but as about the only way to communicate in a manor that she/it/N can understand. I did do a lot of thinking about how I phrased what I wrote as to get as much milage as I could out of the communication.

As such, I'm interested on comments.

I gotta stop and go drink a pot of coffee and do some yoga or something.
I really don't like dealing with her and her baloney. It's not fun, it hurts, it sucks, it's traumatic etc. But worst of all she has access to the kids how don't know how to thwart her and her FOO bullshit. I try not to be to forthcoming about what their mom and her FOO are. Monsters. Thanks all. Thank you for letting me to talk crazy tonight and work through all of this.

BoB

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I think the advice on here tonight is excellent. I think I am similar to bob in that I still get drawn into these pathetic confrontations but now I will take my time to respond and react.
bob - you are doing just fine. Sad once said to me that you have to stop trying to understand them. I'm not there yet either but hopefully we will be one day.

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[This message edited by jjct at 8:09 PM, February 19th (Tuesday)]


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I'd thought that for us and not particularily her that her "grandiosity" and "entitlement" were challanged and or flat out denied. She is a "commoner" like the rest of us and "has" to abide by the same rules. LOL.

That's what a NORMAL person would gather.

She is not normal. Any attention, even bad, is good for her.

It's hard. I went through this too. I'd draft long, well crafted missives and get one word replies that just set my teeth on fire. I'd gnash at the insult.

What I finally finally learned was that it was wasted effort. It's throwing my energy into the wind to try to make him understand he's bound by rules and regulations. Period. He doesn't think he is, he's always felt that way and, as he gets older, he feels even more strongly about it.

In truth, it was keeping me attached to him, attached to the idea that he *could* change if he just understood, that he would see I was right and he was wrong.

But he won't see that, and SHE won't see that, so stop wasting your energy on her. She's a black hole. Save your energy for the documents you'll need to win in court, on raising your children, on work, on yourself. Hell, spend it on eating bonbons - just NOT ON HER.

I think it's an excellent idea to start posting your emails to her here for feedback, before you send them. this will accomplish two goals: it will force you to wait to respond to her (as you will have to get feedback first) and it will allow you to see what those of us further down the road would reccommend you cut out of the emails, to make them more concise.

There is hope. This year, I forgot it was my N's birthday. my oldest reminded me. I'd completely and TOTALLY forgotten. it's nice here.....


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(((Tribe)))
I love ya Man !!!
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Posted this in D/S concerning those that lurk to further cause harm such as STBX, EX, Demons, etc. LOL.
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EVIL PEOPLE SUCK !!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil
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Evil is a broad term used to indicate a negative moral or ethical judgment, often used to describe intentional acts that are cruel, unjust, or selfish. Evil is usually contrasted with good, which describes intentional acts that are kind, just, or unselfish.
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evil
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1 a: morally reprehensible : sinful wicked <an evil impulse> b: arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct <a person of evil reputation>2 aarchaic : inferior b: causing discomfort or repulsion : offensive <an evil odor> c: disagreeable <woke late and in an evil temper>3 a: causing harm : pernicious <the evil institution of slavery> b: marked by misfortune : unlucky
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EVIL MINDED
: having an evil disposition or evil thoughts
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(((JJCT)))
JJ, your PSA (Public Service Announcement) in your tag is brilliant !!!
"Feeling like you're in some kind of horror movie, with bizarre fx & stuff? NPD threads helped me out of the movie. just sayin'...."

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Mean People Suck (Especially Narcissists)

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Agree with BoB, jj!

Wow, just *Great Advice*, landa!

I want to "take up" being BORED...& FORGETTING...

ahhh, yeah, the N Holes!


~XWH told me what I wanted to hear but he always did whatever he wanted to do~

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